Music And We

(RECORDED ON APRIL 20, 2025) On April 19, 2025 jamilah and jesse took a road trip to Syracuse, NY to see Metallica- it was jesse's 6th time seeing them, and jamilah's 19th. At one-something in the morning they decided to discuss their immediate feelings- particularly jesse, who saw them for the first time on the floor. Were there any differences for him (besides the obvious proximity to the stage) in his experiences? If you went to the Syracuse show- or if you've gone to any of the shows on the M72 tour, you can tell us your experiences by contacting: musicandwepodcast@gmail.com

(RECORDED ON MARCH 20, 2025) The creation of a podcast (or radio show) is an interesting process; one of the most rewarding parts can sometimes be the most heartbreaking, as you take a lot of chances in hoping the person you've contacted will reach back out to you. Many times they do, and there are times they don't. But you keep on pushing. And pushing on is what Propagandi has done since the birth of their existence. Facing rejection, isolation, threats and more over the years, they never waned on their mission to be a musical representation of the 'Animal-Friendly, Anti-Fascist, Gay/Trans/Non-Binary/Intersex-Positive, and Pro-Feminist' voice. jamilah has had a relationship with Propagandhi's music for over 20 years (beginning with Less Talk, More Rock), and they have become one of her favorite bands of all time. So admittedly, sitting down and having a conversation with guitarist, vocalist and co-songwriter Chris Hannah was a long-time dream, fulfilled. Chris and jamilah discuss a range of subjects, from growing up as punk (and metal) kids in the 80s and 90s, aging bodies and self-care, musical inspirations, subject matter caveats, ideological maturation, current Canada/US relations, parenthood, and more. Songs featured: -Fuck The Border (Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes, Fat Wreck Chords, 2001)-Oka Everywhere (Where Quantity Is Job #1 (Compilation), G7 Welcoming Committee, 1998)-When All Your Fears Collide (Victory Lap, Epitaph, 2017)-Haillie Sallasse, Up Your Ass (How To Clean Everything, Fat Wreck Chords, 1993)-Comply/Resist (Victory Lap, Epitaph, 2017)-A People's History Of The World (Less Talk, More Rock; Fat Wreck Chords, 1996)-Apparently, I'm A "P.C. Fascist" (Because I Care About Both Human And Non-Human Animals) (Less Talk, More Rock; Fat Wreck Chords, 1996)-Superbowl Patriot XXXVI (Enter The Mendicant) (Potemkin City Limits; G7 Welcoming Committee/Fat Wreck Chords, 1996)-Dear Coach's Corner (Supporting Caste, G7 Welcoming Committee/Smallman Records, 2009)-At Peace (from upcoming album 'At Peace'; Epitaph, 2025)-Rio De San Atlanta, Manitoba (Less Talk, More Rock; Fat Wreck Chords, 1996)-Cognitive Suicide (Failed States, Epitaph, 2012)-Letters To A Young Anus (Victory Lap, Epitaph, 2017)-Note To Self (Failed States, Epitaph, 2012) Thanks for listening! For more information and to keep up with Propagandhi, go to: https://propagandhi.com/ To get a hold of us, you can reach us here: musicandwejj@gmail.com

(RECORDED ON JANUARY 20, 2025) Well... We don't know what to say. jamilah is usually the one asking the questions, talking to others about the things which inspire them. Because she recently came out with a record (called One Day I Slipped And Fell On A Thought), jesse had an idea- and to her surprise, that idea was to flip the mic around and ask jamilah some questions. She discusses the process for making the record, as well as some of the methods, events and people which inspired her. Hopefully, the episode is interesting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! One Day I Slipped And Fell On A Thought is here: https://teodorasfist.bandcamp.com/album/one-day-i-slipped-and-fell-on-a-thought For questions, comments, etc. you can reach us here: musicandwejj@gmail.com

(RECORDED ON OCTOBER 17, 2024) In the 11 years of doing radio (and now podcasting), jamilah has been experiencing a process of time where increasingly, you have to have some level of notoriety or fame for someone to take the time out to be on an episode of your podcast- or, you have to go through scores of agents and handlers (and sometimes, you don't get a response at all). We understand that there's an overwhelming amount of media out there currently, and people must be selective. It's an incredibly humbling experience to be able to converse with someone who is sharing their limited time with us. The Internationale are no exception. Quintessentially NYC, Delila Paz and Edgey Pires create music that, from its inception has been decisively anti-racist, antifascist, anti-imperialist and anti-capitalist; they utilize their craft to counter the intersections of classism, racism and misogyny. Their inspirations range far and wide, from Woodie Guthrie and Buffy Sainte-Marie, to Nina Simone and John Coltrane. So of course... we had to talk to them. And we are certainly glad we did. Similar to our last episode, this conversation occurred prior to the announcement of Trump's second term presidency, but so much still applies. Edgey, Delila (both who are incredibly funny) and jamilah discuss everything from moments of fearlessness, the political self-censoring of artists, vanguard/small cadre vs. mass organizing, the limitations of rock lyricism, the moments that inspired a questioning of the system, the misinterpretation of 'revolution', the experience of being on a major label in transition, appreciation vs. appropriation, where 'protest music' goes wrong under capitalism, (older) rock musicians and fans hoarding the culture for themselves, and most importantly, finding humanity amidst the struggle. Songs featured on this episode: -5th World (Soul On Fire, 2019)-1984 (Running For A Dream, 2023)-Freak Revolution (Soul On Fire, 2019)-Bourgeois Blues (New York I Do Mind Dying, 2013)-Life, Liberty, And The Pursuit Of Indian Blood (We Will Reign, 2014)-Try Me (Soul On Fire, 2019)-Workers Of The World- Unite! (Live) (This Bootleg Kills... Vol 1, 2016) Thank you for listening! For more information on The last Internationale, go to: https://www.tlinyc.com/ Also, For questions, comments, etc. you can reach us here: musicandwejj@gmail.com

In this episode, jamilah pays tribute to three influential figures in the music world- genre-defying saxophonist David Sanborn; outspoken vocalist Gary Floyd, and one of the most uncompromising beings to ever get behind a sound board, Steve Albini. So many are leaving us, but they have left behind the gifts of their music. Thank you for listening. For questions, comments, etc. you can reach us here: musicandwejj@gmail.com

(RECORDED ON FEBRUARY 11, 2024) This episode developed from a few situations; jamilah wanted to do an episode on Fugazi (one of her favoritest bands of all time), but could not necessarily find someone to do that episode with. As Fugazi has not been a band since the early 2000s, doing a 'Flowers' episode would not have been feasible; however, members of Fugazi have embarked on several projects since then, so hopefully someone will want to do a 'Fugazi: Past And Present' episode with her. In terms of the episode you're listening to now; in a conversation that involved Bad Religion (another one of her all-time favorite bands), Chris Warne mentioned that even though he loved Fugazi, he would be more comfortable with doing an episode on BR- and thus, another 'Flowers' episode was born. As a matter of fact, Chris and jamilah (along with mutual friend Rob) have started a tri-continental band, borne from a love of Bad religion. In this episode you will hear music from Chris' (primary) band, Cowboy Dan; you will also hear several covers, where all the instruments and vocals were performed by jamilah. We also discuss the various ways this band has positively impacted/inspired us- including the results of a very arduous task of compiling eight specific songs. We hope you find something positive in your listening experience- we certainly had fun doing this! You can find Cowboy Dan's music here: https://cowboydanmusic.bandcamp.com/music We'd love to hear from you! For questions, comments, etc. you can reach us here: musicandwejj@gmail.com