NatSec Matters
Formerly known as Intelligence Matters, the NatSec Matters podcast features former senior national security officials Michael Allen, Jeremy Bash, and Andrew Shapiro as they interview top leaders in national security, inc...
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- Richard Nephew2 eps
- Rich Goldberg2 eps
- Richard Fontaine1 ep
Also: Gen. (Ret.) Joseph Votel, Roger Zakheim, Admiral (Ret.) Chris Grady, Matt Kroenig, Mark Montgomery, Dr. Seth Jones, Yaakov Katz, Clay Seigle, Rear Adm. Mark Montgomery, Eddie Fishman, Dr. Nadia Schadlow, Dr. Rebeccah L. Heinrichs, Admiral (Ret.) Robert "Bob" Harward, Dr. Alan Mendoza, Craig Singleton, Dr. Alina Polyakova, Peter Rough
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 10/21/26 | Israel at the Ballot Box: Yaakov Katz | Former Jerusalem Post editor-in-chief Yaakov Katz returns to the podcast to preview Israel's upcoming elections and examine how the post–October 7 security consensus shapes the race. Yaakov dispels the belief that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's departure would suddenly reverse Israel's forward-leaning defense posture. He also unpacks key electoral dynamics for Michael—from Netanyahu leveraging national security debates and anti-Arab party rhetoric to rising public anxiety over European sanctions and Haredi conscription. Finally, Yaakov forecasts potential governing scenarios, including a narrow right-wing majority, an unprecedented centrist minority government, and the lingering prospect of another protracted political stalemate. | 40m 21s | ||||||
| 10/15/26 | Yemen's Reignited War: Dr. April Longley Alley | Michael is joined by Senior Fellow at The Washington Institute Dr. April Longley Alley to explain the sudden return to full-scale war in Yemen following a lightning Houthi offensive that seized the strategic Bab el-Mandeb chokepoint. In response to the Saudi-backed counteroffensive, the Houthis have unleashed an escalatory barrage of cross-border missile and drone strikes targeting critical Saudi oil infrastructure and Riyadh Airport. Dr. Alley explores why the Houthis act as autonomous partners of Tehran rather than mere proxies, leveraging asymmetric warfare to demand a maximalist "victor's peace" from Riyadh. She also analyzes Washington's reluctance to launch offensive airstrikes, the fractures between Saudi Arabia and the UAE over southern separatists, and why lasting deterrence requires political power-sharing rather than military force alone. | 51m 49s | ||||||
| 9/30/26 | Trump & Xi - Managing the Mirage: Ann E. Kowalewski | Michael is joined by Ann E. Kowalewski, Vice President at Beacon Global Strategies and Senior Fellow at the Institute for Indo-Pacific Security, to discuss the outcomes and regional fallout of the latest summit between President Donald Trump and People's Republic of China (PRC) Leader Xi Jinping. Ann breaks down the core dynamic she describes as "spectacle and small potatoes"—where both leaders project an image of managed bilateral stability while quietly executing competitive economic hardening behind the scenes. She also explores how Beijing prepared for a second Trump term by sharpening its economic retaliation playbook—from critical mineral export controls to the "unreliable entity" list—and examines why symbolic fentanyl tariffs and reciprocal trade frameworks have not addressed deep-seated industrial subsidies. Ann analyzes why slow-walking Taiwan arms sale packages and softening rhetoric on China weaken deterrence across the Taiwan Strait, the strategic calculations driving Beijing's timeline, and why the burgeoning "Axis of Upheaval"—linking China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea—demands a fundamental rethink of Western sanctions enforcement and economic statecraft. | 45m 03s | ||||||
| 9/23/26 | The Hormuz Standoff, Military Readiness, and the Axis of Aggressors: Adm. Mark Montgomery & Norman Roule | Rear Admiral (Ret.) Mark Montgomery and former senior CIA officer Norman Roule join Michael to assess the maritime blockade of Iran and rising friction in the Strait of Hormuz . They analyze how unprecedented economic strangulation is pressuring Tehran while testing the U.S. Navy's regional operations and global posture . Mark, a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, explains how extended deployments are creating a readiness crisis that could jeopardize U.S. deterrence in late-decade flashpoints . Norman, a non-resident senior adviser with CSIS, details the regional impact of recent Houthi strikes . The three explore European allied inaction and the growing revisionist axis linking Moscow, Beijing, and Tehran . Finally, they examine what is next for two other critical geopolitical priorities: Taiwan and Ukraine . | 1h 02m 58s | ||||||
| 9/16/26 | Iran's Uprising, Regime Survival, and the View from Tehran: Holly Dagres | Michael is joined by Holly Dagres, the Libitzky Family Senior Fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy and editor of The Iranist, for a unique look at the internal dynamics shaping Iran amid ongoing war and economic strangulation. Holly rewinds to the December and January anti-regime uprisings that preceded the conflict, detailing the unprecedented state-led massacre of protesters and the ensuing collapse of the Iranian rial. She explains why the clerical regime's survival has radicalized a new generation of IRGC hardliners, the psychological blow dealt to ordinary Iranians by strikes on energy infrastructure, and the growing sense of abandonment felt across the country after unfulfilled promises of Western support. Holly also assesses the sustainability of Washington's naval blockade, Tehran's escalatory brinkmanship in the Persian Gulf, and what it will actually take for the Iranian public to risk returning to the streets. Additional Resources:Abdorrahman Boroumand Center Center for Human Rights in Iran | 40m 48s | ||||||
| 9/9/26 | Russian Resolve and Ukraine's 'Theory of Victory': Peter Rough | Michael is joined by Peter Rough, Senior Fellow and Director of the Center on Europe and Eurasia at the Hudson Institute, to dissect the stalled diplomatic efforts to resolve the war between Ukraine and Russia, and the latest interventions by U.S. envoys Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner. He also assesses Ukraine's persistent deep-strike campaign against Russian refineries, mounting Russian casualty rates, and the internal frictions behind Kyiv's high-level military leadership shakeup. Finally, Peter evaluates the growing threat of Russian gray-zone sabotage across Europe and examines whether allied aid and sanctions can hold the line ahead of a difficult winter. Let us know what geopolitical topic we should focus on next, get in touch at [email protected]. | 44m 15s | ||||||
| 9/2/26 | 'Economic D-Day' & Refining Realities: Clay Seigle | Michael is joined by Clay Seigle, Managing Director of Beacon Global Strategies' newly announced energy practice and former James R. Schlesinger Chair at CSIS, for an expert briefing on volatile global energy markets. Clay breaks down the economic dynamics underpinning $90-a-barrel oil, explaining how the ongoing standoff in the Strait of Hormuz, presidential messaging, and severe global refining bottlenecks are driving price fluctuations. He also analyzes the impact of Ukraine's drone strikes on Russian fuel throughput and examines the broader implications of tightening global diesel markets. Turning to the Western Hemisphere, Clay assesses the long-term feasibility and legal complexities of new U.S. investment frameworks for upgrading Venezuela's heavy sour crude resources. Finally, he highlights critical flashpoints to watch, including commercial shipping risks across the Red Sea. | 30m 14s | ||||||
| 8/27/26 | Netanyahu's Next Test: Yaakov Katz | Michael is joined by Yaakov Katz, former Editor-in-Chief of The Jerusalem Post and author of While Israel Slept: How Hamas Surprised the Most Powerful Military in the Middle East, for an assessment of the Israeli perspective following months of joint strikes on Iran with the U.S. Yaakov explains the political impact of the war in Israel and the origins of the widening diplomatic daylight between Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Washington. He also previews the upcoming Israeli elections, analyzing Netanyahu's fight for political survival against a surging opposition led by former IDF Chief of Staff Gadi Eizenkot. Finally, Yaakov evaluates the operational stalemate in Gaza, conditions surrounding the Board of Peace's 15-point disarmament plan, and the enduring challenges to long-term stability. | 52m 04s | ||||||
| 8/20/26 | From Hormuz to the Indo-Pacific: Richard Fontaine | Michael is joined by Richard Fontaine, CEO of the Center for a New American Security and former National Security Council official, for a strategic tour of the world's most urgent flashpoints. Richard explores the dangerous ripple effects of the Iran conflict across the Middle East, including regional powers hedging toward mutual defense pacts and the strategic costs of an open-ended naval commitment. He also evaluates recent friction in the U.S.–South Korea alliance, the pitfalls of personality-driven diplomacy with North Korea, and how military redeployments to the Middle East have left the U.S. with zero aircraft carriers currently in the Western Pacific. Finally, he and Michael examine the protracted battlefield dynamics in Ukraine, the ambiguity surrounding Washington's endgame with Moscow, and the deepening operational ties within the "Axis of Upheaval"—China, Russia, North Korea, and Iran—urging a coordinated strategy to defend frontline states without falling into regional distractions. | 45m 36s | ||||||
| 8/12/26 | Confronting Iran's Demands & Washington's Dilemma: Richard Nephew | Michael is joined by Richard Nephew, Senior Research Scholar at Columbia University's Center on Global Energy Policy and former NSC Director for Iran, to discuss the uncertain and deteriorating situation in the Persian Gulf. Richard analyzes Tehran's recent escalation of demands—from demanding the full removal of the U.S. blockade and sanctions to seeking $300 billion in reparations. He also explores the internal consolidation of power within Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) following recent decapitation strikes, detailing how a narrower, unipolar hardline faction now views aggressive deterrence as the clear path forward. Richard also breaks down global energy friction points, including severe price spreads in refined products like diesel, the limitations of covert commercial ship escorting, and the dangerous race between global economic endurance and the U.S. blockade. | 51m 37s | ||||||
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| 8/5/26 | Moscow's Economic Fragility and Kyiv's Strategic Edge: Glenn Corn | Michael is joined by Glenn Corn, former CIA Chief of Station and foreign policy expert with over 34 years of experience across the U.S. intelligence, defense, and diplomatic communities. Returning from his latest trip to Ukraine, Glenn offers a candid, on-the-ground operational update on how Kyiv's military is reshaping the battlefield through mid-range FPV drone strikes, integrated AI battle management systems, and deep-strike campaigns targeting Russian oil refineries and supply lines. He also analyzes internal socio-political frictions within Russia as Moscow struggles to manage mounting casualties and economic strain. | 39m 07s | ||||||
| 7/29/26 | Churchill's Choices in Ukraine and What's Next in the Strait of Hormuz: Adm. Mark Montgomery | Michael is joined by Rear Admiral (Ret.) Mark Montgomery, Senior Director of the Center on Cyber and Technology Innovation at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD), who just concluded his seventh trip to Ukraine since the full-scale invasion. Mark delivers an operational update on his work training Ukrainian brigade commanders and assesses the strategic political reshuffle in Kyiv. He compares President Volodymyr Zelensky to a wartime Winston Churchill—brilliant yet fallible—and evaluates the new military leadership under Gen. Mykhailo Drapatyi. Finally, Mark draws on his naval expertise to argue why the U.S. Navy must commit to physical escort operations through the Strait of Hormuz to permanently break Iran's economic grip. | 40m 39s | ||||||
| 7/22/26 | 'The Nord Stream Conspiracy' - Sabotage, Spies, and the Baltic Sea Explosion: Bojan Pancevski | Michael is joined by Bojan Pancevski, Chief European Political Correspondent for The Wall Street Journal, to discuss his new book, The Nord Stream Conspiracy: The Inside Story of the Explosions That Shook the World. Drawing on direct conversations with German law enforcement and the Ukrainian saboteurs, Pancevski reveals how a six-person team used a rented yacht and a $250,000 budget to destroy Europe's primary Russian energy pipeline . Pancevski discusses the fallout of the operation , as well as the broader evolution of Ukrainian hybrid warfare, long-range drone strikes on Russian infrastructure, and the trajectory of the war . | 47m 13s | ||||||
| 7/15/26 | transatlantic securityNATO Summit+5 | Dr. Alina PolyakovaPeter Rough | Center for European Policy AnalysisCenter on Europe and Eurasia+2 | AnkaraUkraine+1 | transatlantic unityNATO+5 | — | 58m 30s | ||
| 7/8/26 | global espionageartificial intelligence+4 | Anthony Vinci | National Geospatial-Intelligence AgencyThe Fourth Intelligence Revolution: The Future of Espionage and the Battle to Save America | ChinaAmerica | espionageAI+5 | — | 43m 48s | ||
| 7/1/26 | artificial intelligencenational security+4 | Dr. Divyansh Kaushik | Anthropic's MythosBeacon Global Strategies | China | frontier AIcybersecurity+5 | — | 56m 22s | ||
| 6/24/26 | U.S.-Iran relationsdiplomatic negotiations+3 | Ambassador Jeffrey Feltman | Brookings Institution | U.S.Iran+3 | Iran ceasefirediplomatic agreement+5 | — | 43m 37s | ||
| 6/17/26 | geopolitical dynamicsU.S. influence+5 | David Shedd | Defense Intelligence AgencyChina | CubaVenezuela+3 | geopoliticsU.S. intervention+5 | — | 50m 58s | ||
| 6/10/26 | U.S. global powerdiplomacy+4 | Dr. Nadia Schadlow | Hudson InstituteU.S. | MideastChina+1 | diplomacynational security+5 | — | 53m 12s | ||
| 5/31/26 | U.S.–Iran relationsceasefire negotiations+4 | Richard Nephew | Columbia UniversityNational Security Council | U.S.–Iran | Iranceasefire+5 | — | 41m 43s | ||
| 5/27/26 | U.S.-Iran relationsdiplomatic negotiations+4 | Dr. Rebeccah L. HeinrichsRich Goldberg | Hudson InstituteFoundation for Defense of Democracies | U.S.Iran | Iran agreementdiplomatic off-ramp+3 | — | 56m 24s | ||
| 5/20/26 | Iran conflictmilitary strategy+3 | Admiral (Ret.) Robert "Bob" Harward | CENTCOMWashington | IranTehran | Iranregime change+5 | — | 1h 01m 37s | ||
| 5/15/26 | British politicsReform Party+4 | Dr. Alan Mendoza | Reform PartyLabour Party+1 | U.K.U.S.+1 | political firestormReform Party+5 | — | 52m 55s | ||
| 5/13/26 | U.S.-China relationsIran conflict+4 | Craig Singleton | Foundation for Defense of Democracies | ChinaIran+1 | TrumpChina+7 | — | 39m 01s | ||
| 5/5/26 | Iran conflictdiplomacy+4 | Eddie Fishman | Maurice R. Greenberg Center for GeoeconomicsCouncil on Foreign Relations+1 | Strait of HormuzIran+2 | IranStrait of Hormuz+6 | — | 57m 52s | ||
| 4/29/26 | US economic blockadeStrait of Hormuz+4 | Richard Fontaine | Center for a New American Security | United StatesStrait of Hormuz+2 | economic blockadenuclear breakthrough+5 | — | 57m 36s | ||
| 4/22/26 | IranUS foreign policy+4 | Gen. (Ret.) Joseph Votel | CENTCOM | WashingtonTehran+2 | Iranescalation trap+6 | — | 44m 45s | ||
| 4/16/26 | Mideast conflictU.S. military tactics+3 | Richard Nephew | Columbia UniversityCenter on Global Energy Policy+1 | IranWashington+1 | Mideast conflictU.S. tactics+5 | — | 55m 06s | ||
| 4/14/26 | maritime securityIranian economy+4 | Roger ZakheimRich Goldberg | Ronald Reagan Presidential FoundationFoundation for Defense of Democracies | IslamabadStrait of Hormuz+2 | Strait of HormuzIran+5 | — | 38m 39s | ||
| 4/6/26 | Iran conflictmilitary strategy+4 | Admiral (Ret.) Chris Grady | Bush National Security Council | Strait of HormuzIran+1 | IranPresident Trump+5 | — | 47m 46s | ||
| 4/2/26 | Iran conflictU.S. foreign policy+3 | Matt Kroenig | StarlinkAtlantic Council | IranRussia | IranTrump+6 | — | 27m 27s | ||
| 4/1/26 | Ukraine conflictgray zone tactics+4 | Mark Montgomery | Foundation for Defense of Democracies | UkraineBaltics+1 | UkraineRussia+6 | — | 42m 44s | ||
| 3/25/26 | Iran conflictdiplomatic strategies+4 | Dr. Seth Jones | CSISIRGC | IranGulf states+1 | Irandiplomacy+5 | — | 45m 42s | ||
| 3/20/26 | Israel's military strategyIran conflict+3 | Yaakov Katz | Jerusalem Post | IsraelIran | IsraelIran+5 | — | 48m 57s | ||
| 3/18/26 | energy securityglobal oil prices+3 | Clay SeigleRear Adm. Mark Montgomery | CSISFoundation for Defense of Democracies | Straits of HormuzKharg Island+3 | energy securityoil prices+5 | — | 53m 36s | ||
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