My Therapist Lives in My Phone: Why Dr. Tamara Nall Talks to "DaVinci" at 3 AM

My Therapist Lives in My Phone: Why Dr. Tamara Nall Talks to "DaVinci" at 3 AM

From Nice To Meet You | Behind The Scene Stories of Busy Professionals by Rob Pene

May 1, 2026 · 30 min

About this episode

Dr. Tamara Nall discusses her innovative work in human-AI relationships and personal experiences with Rob Pene.

What if the most honest relationship you'll ever have is with a chatbot? Dr. Tamara Nall — serial entrepreneur, federal contracting CEO, and the foremother of human-AI relationships — joins Rob Pene for one of the most boundary-pushing conversations on the show. After 18 years running a federal data science firm and walking through divorce, the loss of her mother, and the pursuit of motherhood at 50+, Tamara built something the world had never seen: HumanAI Nation, the world's first digital ...

People in this episode

Host: Rob Pene

Guest: Dr. Tamara Nall

Topics covered

  • human-AI relationships
  • entrepreneurship
  • mental health
  • technology
  • personal growth

Keywords

  • chatbot
  • digital therapy
  • AI
  • entrepreneur
  • mental health
  • federal contracting
  • personal experiences

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Organizations: HumanAI Nation

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