NOT the Sermon

Enjoy the only episode in existence of all of our podcast hosts together in one room!In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick off with Shooting the Skybalon, where Eric accidentally plays a clip with a not-so-holy word during a staff meeting. In Shady Theology, the guys dig into the theology of speaking in tongues—what it is, what it’s for, and why it still matters. Next up in How Great is Our Pod, they debut a “prodigal” worship song with a special guest (hint, hint). Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they ask if multi-level marketing has any place in the church—or if it’s just spiritual spam. It’s raw, funny, and loaded with the mix of memes and theology you didn’t know you needed—welcome to Not the Sermon.

In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, where Jamie vents about the mysterious and deeply offensive concept of the “feels like” temperature during cold weather season. In Houston, We Have a Question, they tackle two listener curiosities: what is the best spiritual gift, and where did the ichthus fish symbol actually come from? In Weird Worship, they wrestle with the phrase “praise as a weapon” and whether that language helps or hurts our understanding of worship. Finally, in Shady Theology, they unpack the controversy surrounding Bethel and Shawn Bolz, including the questions around prophetic words and data mining. It’s thoughtful, a little spicy, and perfectly on brand—welcome to Not the Sermon. 00:00:17 – Skybalon: Jamie’s problem with the “feels like” temp 00:09:51 – Houston, We Have a Question: The best spiritual gift & the fish symbol 00:23:13 – Weird Worship: Praise as a weapon 00:33:10 – Shady Theology: Bethel & Shawn Bolz

In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, where Jamie admits to using a church member as a lock-up wingman to avoid closing duties, and the guys talk about how pastors have quietly become full-time content machines. In Pester the Pastor, they wrestle with Christians and media consumption, asking what a healthy relationship with the digital world actually looks like. In Odd News, they cover a strange article about dogs learning vocabulary and habits from their owners. Finally, in Shady Theology, they dig into the clergy vs. laity divide and where that line came from in the first place. It’s honest, weird, and uncomfortably relevant—welcome to Not the Sermon. 00:00:15 – Skybalon: Lock-up wingman & holy content machines 00:11:07 – Pester the Pastor: Media consumption 00:24:51 – Odd News: Dogs learning vocabulary from their owners 00:35:29 – Shady Theology: The clergy vs. laity divide

In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, talking about the telltale signs that someone just won the lottery and why everyone seems to be weirdly obsessed with Eric’s hair. In Shady Theology, they dive into purgatory—where the idea came from, why it stuck, and why it still sparks debate. Then it’s game time with The Slang Game, where they try to guess the meanings of ancient slang terms and quickly realize people have always been weird. Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they tackle magic in the Bible and ask what to do with supernatural activity that doesn’t seem to come directly from God. It’s funny, curious, and theologically mischievous—welcome to Not the Sermon. 00:00:18 – Skybalon: Winning the lottery & Eric’s hair 00:10:00 – Shady Theology: Purgatory 00:20:28 – Game: The Slang Game 00:31:27 – Pester the Pastor: Magic in the Bible

In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, roasting listeners’ Spotify Wrapped results and reacting to a mysterious Sermonot gift. In Shady Theology, they wade into deep waters with annihilationism and conditional immortality—what they are, why people believe them, and why they matter. Then it’s game time with a New Year’s Sermon Mad-Lib, where things go off the rails fast. Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they tackle Preachers & Sneakers—asking how much pastors should spend on clothes, cars, and homes, and where wisdom, optics, and integrity collide. It’s sharp, funny, and theologically spicy—welcome to Not the Sermon. 00:00:18 – Skybalon: Roasting listeners’ Wrapped & a Sermonot gift 00:10:07 – Shady Theology: Annihilation & conditional immortality 00:26:10 – Game: A New Year’s sermon Mad-Lib 00:34:31 – Pester the Pastor: How much should pastors spend on clothes, cars, and homes?