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Make the Economy Work for Freelancers, Too (#askingforafriend)
Jun 9, 2026
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About That College Grad Who Can’t Find a Job…
Jun 2, 2026
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Should We Cherish the Ultra-Wealthy? (a.k.a. ‘The Cornfield’)
May 26, 2026
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No Overtime for the Supervisor of Sandwiches
May 19, 2026
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Can the U.S. Go ‘Cashless?’
May 12, 2026
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 6/9/26 | ![]() Make the Economy Work for Freelancers, Too (#askingforafriend) | Thirty million Americans, more or less, work for themselves. They freelance, do gig work, have solo LLCs, or — as a certain economist says — participate in “ non-employee employment.” The economics of their situation is harder than it needs to be. Making self-employment more viable is good for everyone in the labor market, because when workers have options, they also have more power. Plus: Kathryn Anne Edwards testified before the House Ways and Means Committee, and a congressman implied she wasn't a real American. She has thoughts.Chapters:0:00 — Start/Announcements1:21 — Retcon: Bad banks, good overtime, and testifying before Congress (again)18:17 — Big Pilcrow: Freelancers & non-employer businesses44:42 — Executive orders: national anthem singing rules, Congressional attendance policy47:20 — Spiritual sponsors: Supportive listeners and horchada + cold brew coffee49:01 — Credits Donate to Optimist Economy: https://optimisteconomy.com Video-curious? Watch the Optimist Economy YouTube channel. We’re also on Instagram at @optimist_economy or TikTok at @optimist_economy. Chat with other Optimists on Substack. Find utility with our merch: https://merch.ambientinks.com/collections/optimisteconomy Got economic questions, concerns, or executive orders? Send them to optimist.economy@gmail.com | — | ||||||
| 6/2/26 | About That College Grad Who Can’t Find a Job… | (Originally aired 7/1/2025) Newly minted college graduates are having a harder time landing that first job than in recent years. Is it AI? Is college useless? Is it a crisis? (No. No. And not yet…) College graduates under 27 still have significantly lower unemployment rates (5.8%) than high school graduates of the same age (6.9%). What economist Kathryn Edwards finds worrying is that these new workers, who are typically a lagging economic indicator, may in this case be a bellwether of a weakening economy. Support the Optimist Economy podcast by becoming a paid subscriber on Substack, or donating at https://buymeacoffee.com/optimisteconomyComplete show notes with links to articles and data at optimisteconomy.com.You can also find Optimist Economy on: TikTok YouTube Instagram --------Read More: The Labor Market for Recent College Graduates [New York Fed, 2025] Hires, from the Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey [St. Louis Fed, 2025] Downskilling: changes in employer skill requirements over the business cycle [Labour Economics 2016] Upskilling: Do Employers Demand Greater Skill When Workers Are Plentiful? [The Review of Economics and Statistics 2020] | — | ||||||
| 5/26/26 | ![]() Should We Cherish the Ultra-Wealthy? (a.k.a. ‘The Cornfield’) | A certain kind of wealthy American has been griping out loud lately — about taxes, about progressive cities, about how unappreciated they are for the jobs they create, the stuff they buy, and the tips they hand out. A narrative is coalescing around them too: that the top 10% of earners now do so much of the spending, the U.S. economy relies on them. But an economy that depends so much on the people at the top isn't the healthy one the country deserves — it’s just wearing a nice suit.Chapters:00:00:56 Announcements: Q&A episode questions wanted 00:01:18 Retcon: The 86 debate; FDR's full "calamity howling executives" quote 00:05:32 Terms & Conditions: Wealth Effect and Zugzwang 00:09:26 Big Pilcrow: Should we cherish the ultra-wealthy?00:36:41 Executive Orders: Retire "mummies"; union credits on red carpets 00:39:34 Spiritual Sponsors: Mellow Cello podcast; enormous floral arrangementsFurther ReadingMoody's claim that the top 10% of earners now drive nearly half of consumer spending in the WSJ:https://www.wsj.com/economy/consumers/us-economy-strength-rich-spending-2c34a571The Minneapolis Fed on what the underlying data actually shows. https://www.minneapolisfed.org/article/2026/have-us-consumers-gone-k-shaped-a-review-of-the-dataWealthy part-time New Yorkers reacting to a proposed pied-à-terre tax in the Financial Times. https://www.ft.com/content/3283eaab-e9cf-41e6-a028-5a02fb6f4615The Wall Street Journal on second-home taxes spreading from New York City to other states, including the San Diego homeowner who'd like to be cherished. https://www.wsj.com/real-estate/taxes-on-second-homes-are-springing-up-across-america-93a64448Full reading list at https://optimisteconomy.substack.com Donate to Optimist Economy: https://optimisteconomy.com Video-curious? Watch the Optimist Economy YouTube channel. We’re also on Instagram at @optimist_economy or TikTok at @optimist_economy. Chat with other Optimists on Substack. Find utility with our merch: https://merch.ambientinks.com/collections/optimisteconomy Got economic questions, concerns, or executive orders? Send them to optimist.economy@gmail.com | — | ||||||
| 5/19/26 | ![]() No Overtime for the Supervisor of Sandwiches | It wasn’t just hourly factory jobs that were supposed to come with a 40-hour workweek. Even salaried jobs were supposed to get overtime pay, though very few do do anymore. Overtime protections are the only legal mechanism enforcing work-hour limits, and for 50 years, the salary threshold that determines who qualifies to receive overtime has been left to erode. Employers found another workaround too: just call the sandwich maker a "sandwich manager." Now, the new no-tax-on-overtime deduction isn't protecting workers — it's rewarding the kind of overwork it was overtime was originally designed to punish. Fixing the law governing overtime would be a huge and instant boost not just to the U.S. economy, but to our work-life balance.Chapters:00:01:43 Announcements00:02:32 Retcon: Economic data reliability00:05:54 Terms & Conditions: Tenterhooks; Perquisite 00:08:23 Big Pilcrow: Overtime 00:45:27 Executive Orders: Badge of shame for working past 40 hours; more colorful cars00:46:52 Spiritual Sponsors: Awesome first bosses; Faraday e-bike Donate to Optimist Economy: https://optimisteconomy.com Video-curious? Watch clips on the Optimist Economy YouTube channel. We’re also on Instagram at @optimist_economy or TikTok at @optimist_economy. Chat with other Optimists on Substack. Find utility with our merch: https://merch.ambientinks.com/collections/optimisteconomy Got economic questions, concerns, or executive orders? Send them to optimist.economy@gmail.com | — | ||||||
| 5/12/26 | ![]() Can the U.S. Go ‘Cashless?’ | Cash is dirty, inconvenient, and so last century. Some 70% of Americans under age 50 think its days are numbered. But we still need those greenbacks, if as an alternative to banks. More than 4% of households are “unbanked,” and three times as many are “underbanked,” meaning bank services mostly don’t work for them, so rely on services like check cashers or payday lenders. And that's before you get to the racial disparities in who banks approve for credit. Reviving banking services at the post office might be one way to help the unbanked and keep from handing yet more power to the finance sector. Chapters:00:00:48 Announcements00:02:30 Retcon: Semiquincentennia 00:03:35 Terms & Conditions: ChexSystems, Unbanked00:05:46 Big Pilcrow: What’s keeping the U.S. from going cashless?00:38:28 Executive Orders: Regulate youth sports schedules; Airline baggage fees by weight.00:40:56 Spiritual Sponsors: Artemis splashdown; Friends with season tickets. Donate to Optimist Economy: https://optimisteconomy.com Video clips available at the Optimist Economy YouTube channel. We’re also on Instagram at @optimist_economy or TikTok at @optimist_economy. You can also search for us on Facebook and chat with other Optimists on Substack. Consume leisure while donning Optimist merch: https://merch.ambientinks.com/collections/optimisteconomy Have a questions for our next Q&A? Send it to optimist.economy@gmail.com | — | ||||||
| 5/5/26 | The 2026 Economy: Make it Make Sense✨ | U.S. economyconsumer sentiment+4 | Kathryn Anne Edwards | Optimist Economy | — | economyrecession+5 | — | 58m 12s | |
| 4/28/26 | Progress is a Long Game✨ | progresspolitical conditions+5 | — | Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 | — | progressNew Deal+5 | — | 49m 53s | |
| 4/21/26 | ![]() The Great Wage Stagnation✨ | wage stagnationmonopsony+3 | — | Optimist EconomySad Songs+2 | — | wageslabor force+4 | — | 46m 54s | |
| 4/14/26 | Tax Reform Gone Wild✨ | tax reformwealth taxation+5 | — | CaliforniaWashington+1 | — | tax reformmillionaires+5 | — | 45m 36s | |
| 4/7/26 | Nobody's Pulling Up Stakes Anymore✨ | worker mobilitymigration trends+4 | — | National Consumers LeagueACFC | — | migrationlabor market+5 | — | 45m 49s | |
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| 3/31/26 | The Optimists Have Questions…✨ | retirement savingstaxation+5 | — | OBBA | TacomaMontreal | retirement savingscapital gains+5 | — | 54m 24s | |
| 3/24/26 | Corporate Profits Are Up. Their Tax Bill Should Be Too.✨ | corporate taxesincome inequality+3 | — | 2017 Tax Cut and Jobs ActOptimist Economy+4 | — | corporate income taxeffective tax rate+3 | — | 42m 22s | |
| 3/17/26 | If AI Gets Hired, America Can Handle It✨ | AIjob displacement+3 | Kathryn Anne Edwards | Optimist Economy | — | AIjob loss+3 | — | 51m 21s | |
| 3/10/26 | Boomers Didn’t Ruin Everything. Really.✨ | baby boomerswealth inequality+4 | — | Optimist EconomySocial Security | — | boomerswealth+5 | — | 49m 38s | |
| 3/3/26 | Can $1,000 at Birth Make Us a Country of Savers?✨ | children's savings accountseconomic policy+3 | Kathryn Edwards | Trump AccountsOne Big Beautiful Bill+8 | — | Trump Accountschildren's savings+3 | — | 48m 48s | |
| 2/24/26 | ![]() Social Security Upgrades for Retirement's Realities✨ | Social Securityretirement+3 | Kathryn Anne Edwards | Federal Reserve Bank of San FranciscoOptimist Economy | — | Social Securityretirement updates+3 | — | 57m 59s | |
| 2/17/26 | What The Actual Fed.✨ | Federal Reserveinterest rates+4 | — | Federal ReserveGlass-Steagall+1 | — | Federal Reserveinterest rates+4 | — | 52m 45s | |
| 2/10/26 | We Don't Have a Housing Shortage. We Have a Paycheck Shortage. | Recent polls show 54% now consider housing unaffordable and the cost of homeownership dominates Americans’ economic anxieties. The popular “abundance” narrative says there’s a housing shortage and suggests cutting zoning or environmental rules will let us build our way out of it. But we don’t have a simple net shortage of units—we have a deep mismatch between what gets built and what workers get paid. After 50 years of wage stagnation, the median mortgage payment is over $2,200 while median weekly earnings are $1,200. That’s a gap deregulation or more luxury condos won’t close. The solution isn’t to just build more. It’s also to pay people more.END NOTES: To be considered affordable (30% of income) the median mortgage of $2,259 would require weekly earnings of $1,737. But the median weekly wage for full-time workers is $1214. Where is the Housing Shortage? Of the nation’s 381 metropolitan areas, only four experienced a housing shortage between 2000 and 2020. (Op-ed from the author in Barron’s here.) The US Housing Crisis is Really About Low-Wage Jobs. Kathryn’s take from 2024 in Bloomberg Opinion. Rate of U.S. homeownership has been climbing since bottoming out in 2016 (Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis). Mortgage Debt Service Payments as a Percent of Disposable Personal Income is about what it was in 2019 (Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis). Median Sales Price of Houses Sold for the United States shot up about $90,000 from 2019 to 2025 (Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis). Housing Affordability and Housing Demand (Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco) Watch video clips from this episode at the Optimist Economy YouTube channel.Follow us on Instagram at @optimist_economy.Follow us on TikTok at @optimist_economy.Read some stuff on our Substack.Consume leisure in an O.E. hat or shirt: https://merch.ambientinks.com/collections/optimisteconomySupport us and our tireless editors and producers by donating: https://optimisteconomy.comAnd send your economic questions, concerns, or executive orders: optimist.economy@gmail.com | — | ||||||
| 2/3/26 | Affordability vs. the Poverty Line | An essay went viral by claiming that $140,000 is what a family of four needs to just get by — a number higher than what 70% of American households earn. Conservative economists called it idiotic. Kathryn dismissed it and got a nasty DM. What’s the real controversy? It’s not that the poverty line is misleading. It's that we have no measure for our current affordability crisis. And the American mindset has been so warped by decades of bad economic policy that we think the only way to get help is to prove that we’re poor.END NOTES: The essay in question: Part 1: My Life Is a Lie - by Michael W. Green, What economists thought: Viral essay says $140,000 should be the new poverty line - The Washington Post ; Cato: The $140,000 ‘Poverty Line’ Is Laughably Wrong, So Why Does It Feel Right? ; AEI: How Not to Redefine Poverty How U.S. poverty measures actually work: Two Ways the U.S. Census Bureau Measures Poverty to Capture Clearer Picture of Poverty in America Kathryn on Money with Katie (at min. 35) Watch video clips from this episode at the Optimist Economy YouTube channel.Follow us on Instagram at @optimist_economy.Follow us on TikTok at @optimist_economy.Read some stuff on our Substack.Consume leisure in an O.E. hat or shirt: https://merch.ambientinks.com/collections/optimisteconomySupport us and our tireless editors and producers by donating: https://optimisteconomy.comAnd send your economic questions, concerns, or executive orders: optimist.economy@gmail.com | — | ||||||
| 1/27/26 | $79 Trillion Worth of Income Inequality | Our own optimist economist Kathryn Anne Edwards worked on a research project several years ago to measure income inequality. Its massive headline number has taken on a life of its own in columns, talking points, memes. We explain how Kathryn and co-author Carter Price managed to answer this question: What would have happened to Americans’ incomes if they’d grown at the same rate as the U.S. economy overall? Spoiler alert: 90% of us would be a lot better off.Read the working paper Kathryn co-wrote in 2020: Trends in Income From 1975 to 2018 and Carter Price’s update going through 2023.Watch video clips from this episode at the Optimist Economy YouTube channel.Follow us on Instagram at @optimist_economy.Follow us on TikTok at @optimist_economy.Read some stuff on our Substack.Consume leisure in an O.E. hat or shirt: https://merch.ambientinks.com/collections/optimisteconomySupport us and our tireless editors and producers by donating at https://optimisteconomy.comSend your economic questions or executive orders to optimist.economy@gmail.com | — | ||||||
| 1/20/26 | ![]() We're Back with a Backlog of Optimism | Hey optimists! Season two of Optimist Economy is finally here. New episodes coming on Tuesdays starting January 27. More at www.optimisteconomy.com | — | ||||||
| 12/10/25 | ![]() What’s the Skinny on Laws that Make Salaries Public? | Listener Max did his grad thesis on pay transparency laws in Colorado and found that they narrowed the gender wage gap by 8 cents on the dollar. But some big-name economists reported that such laws can actually reduce wages. So what’s the deal? Kathryn’s answer during our October Q&A was so overlong and multipart that we jokingly called it, “The Max Show.” So here it is, as a mini-episode. Holiday shopping for the optimists in your life? Check out our shirts and hats at optimisteconomy.com | — | ||||||
| 11/20/25 | ![]() Thanksgiving Prep: An Optimist’s Guide to Dinner Table Debate | Your drunk uncle calls Social Security a Ponzi scheme. Your crypto-bro cousin thinks tariffs make China pay. Your grandfather blames working women for tanking wage growth. Economist Kathryn Edwards takes on a dozen hostile dinner-table challenges to help optimists everywhere prepare for dinner table debate. Robin plays every annoying relative you've ever argued with. Pass the [expletive] gravy. Ready to rep Optimist Economy with a shirt, hat or tote bag? Hit up our new website and merch store at optimisteconomy.com Take the listener survey first to get a code for a free Original Optimist sticker: https://tinyurl.com/op-econ-survey | — | ||||||
| 10/21/25 | ![]() Retcon on Season One (+ Executive Orderpalooza) | Optimist Economy got its start almost exactly one year ago with a phone call that began, "Hear me out…" Thirty-two episodes later we ask, “What have we done?” Mostly we conditioned ourselves to keep our eye on the ball – the better U.S. economy and future that are possible – through a lot of very bad news days. In the background, we both moved. Kathryn kept a lot of pregnancy symptoms hidden. We incorporated a nonprofit. And somehow, we managed to drop a new episode every Tuesday. Thanks to all our listeners for being our spiritual sponsors on this journey. Take Our Listener Survey!https://tinyurl.com/op-econ-survey | — | ||||||
| 10/14/25 | ![]() How Health Insurance Got Shackled to Jobs | Why is anyone’s health insurance tied to their job? It's because of a superintendent in Dallas, World War II wage freezes, a 1953 tax code quirk, and decades of inertia. This accident of history costs America $384 billion a year in tax breaks to corporations for providing coverage. And what do we get for that? A system that locks people in jobs they'd otherwise leave, suppresses wages of those who look "expensive to insure," and disadvantages small businesses that can't afford gold-level health plans. In a different historical timeline, President Harry S. Truman’s 1945 national health plan would've given us universal coverage, paid medical leave, and government-funded medical schools. But of course we’re not living in that timeline.Take Our Listener Survey!https://tinyurl.com/op-econ-survey | — | ||||||
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