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The Return of the CD
May 5, 2026
41m 50s
We All Speak in Poems - (Record Label Interview)
Apr 28, 2026
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How Great Record Labels Release New Music
Apr 21, 2026
22m 52s
Kou Records - (Record Label Interview)
Apr 14, 2026
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Does Your Music Have to Be Good to Succeed?
Apr 7, 2026
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| 5/5/26 | The Return of the CD | If you’re an artist or running a label, is CD actually the smartest physical format right now?If you’re a fan, is it worth collecting, or just nostalgia? We’re digging into the real pros and cons on both sides—no hype, no nostalgia bias. Because this isn’t just about a format…It’s about understanding where the next opportunity might be hiding. Get Books for Record Labels: http://otherrecordlabels.com/books Learn more about managing your label's royalties: http://infinitecatalog.com/otherrecordlabels | 41m 50s | ||||||
| 4/28/26 | We All Speak in Poems - (Record Label Interview) | In this episode, I sit down with Brady (Alaskan Tapes), the artist and mind behind We All Speak In Poems—a project that exists somewhere between a label, a creative platform, and a philosophy. PRESENTED BY HELLBENDER VINYL - www.hellbendervinyl.com We talk about the quiet power of ambient music, building a world around your art, and what it really means to create without chasing numbers. Brady shares how his journey evolved from early experimentation to a more intentional, emotionally-driven practice—and how that same mindset shapes the artists and releases he supports. This conversation goes deep into independence, creative identity, and the tension between art and algorithms. If you’re running a label, releasing music, or just trying to stay grounded in your creativity… this one’s for you. Supported by Infinite Catalog - http://infinitecatalog.com/otherrecordlabels Learn more about We All Speak in Poems: http://weallspeakinpoems.com | 1h 07m 13s | ||||||
| 4/21/26 | How Great Record Labels Release New Music | Most music releases fail before they even come out. Not because the music isn’t good — but because there’s no real strategy behind it. Presented by HELLBENDER VINYL - www.hellbendervinyl.com In this episode, I walk through 5 essential principles every artist should follow when preparing a new release. These are simple, practical shifts that turn scattered “drops” into focused campaigns that build real momentum over time. You’ll learn how to think beyond release day, create clarity around your music, and use each release to grow your audience and your catalog. If you want your next release to actually do something — start here. Special thanks to Infinite Catalog - www.infinitecatalog.com Grab more record label resources here: www.otherrecordlabels.com | 22m 52s | ||||||
| 4/14/26 | Kou Records - (Record Label Interview) | “How you present something affects how you hear it.” Presented by HELLBENDER VINYL - www.hellbenderviny.com In this episode, I sit down with Charmaine and Randall of Kou Records — one of the most ambitious and creative indie labels I’ve come across — to break down their “cohort” model: multiple records released together as a unified body of work. We talk about: Why they reject genre, algorithms, and streaming-first thinking How they combine music + visual art into a single experience The philosophy behind releasing 4–5 records at once Why physical products matter more than ever in the age of AI and “content” How constraints (like recording an album in 4–5 days) actually unlock creativity This is a masterclass in thinking differently about what a record label can be — and why the future might belong to labels willing to take creative risks. Kou Records: www.KouRecords.com Proudly Supported by Infinite Catalog: www.infinitecatalog.com | 58m 02s | ||||||
| 4/7/26 | Does Your Music Have to Be Good to Succeed? | Does the music you release actually need to be good? Not just “good enough.” Not just “interesting.” But truly great? PRESENTED BY HELLBENDER VINYL - www.hellbendervinyl.com In this episode, we unpack a question that sits right at the heart of indie music—but often goes unspoken. If DIY culture is about freedom and expression, does quality even matter? Or are we sometimes hiding behind “lo-fi” and “experimental” as an excuse not to push ourselves? This is a challenging conversation—for you, and for me. We’ll explore: Whether indie labels should have standards (and how high they should be) Why great music is actually harder to find than you think How to curate your catalog with intention The role of taste, accountability, and creative pressure Practical ways to raise your bar as a label owner This episode isn’t about perfection. It’s about honesty. And asking yourself: are you doing your best work? Learn More at OtherRecordLabels.com Get Easy Royalty Management with Infinite Catalog - http://infinitecatalog.com/otherrecordlabels | 19m 25s | ||||||
| 3/31/26 | Bar/None Records - (Record Label Interview) | What does it actually look like to take over a legendary indie label? In this episode, I sit down with Emmy Black, the new owner of Bar/None Records—a label with nearly 40 years of history and a roster that helped launch artists like They Might Be Giants and Yo La Tengo. PRESENTED BY LANDR - get.landr.com/otherrecordlabels We talk about what it means to inherit a legacy, how to modernize an indie label without losing its identity, and the real, behind-the-scenes work of running a record label in 2026. This is a conversation about stewardship, taste, relationships, and the long game of building something that lasts. If you’re running (or dreaming of running) a record label, this episode is essential listening. | 1h 00m 32s | ||||||
| 3/24/26 | Social Media Observations for Record Labels | Social media feels like a necessary evil for most indie artists and label owners. You know you should be posting… but what’s actually working? What matters? And is any of it even worth your time? *PRESENTED BY LANDR* get.landr.com/otherrecordlabels In this episode, I’m not coming to you as an expert—I’m coming to you as someone figuring it out alongside you. I break down 5 things I’ve personally noticed about social media that have helped me make sense of it all—from short form vs long form, to why quantity might matter more than quality, to why curation could be the most important skill moving forward. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed, frustrated, or just completely uninterested in playing the social media game… this episode is for you. | 27m 00s | ||||||
| 3/17/26 | Crestfallen Records - (Record Label Interview) | In this episode, Scott talks with Bryce, founder of Crestfallen Records, a Pittsburgh-based DIY metal label that has quietly become one of the most respected names in the modern deathcore and metalcore vinyl scene. ***Presented by LANDR - get.landr.com/otherrecordlabels *** In just five years, Bryce has released 60+ vinyl titles, many with 4–6 variants each, turning Crestfallen into a destination label for collectors who want beautiful physical editions of heavy music. What makes the story remarkable is how it started: Bryce launched the label right after college with almost no experience, a small internship at another DIY label, and a willingness to email bands he loved and ask if he could press their albums on vinyl. The risk paid off. Today Crestfallen is embraced by the scene it serves, with fans praising the label’s quality, design, and commitment to physical media. Learn More: www.crestfallenrecords.com Resources for Record Labels: www.otherrecordlabels.com | 1h 05m 41s | ||||||
| 3/10/26 | Email Lists for Record Labels: The 5 Simple Steps | Email marketing might be the most boring topic in the music industry… and also the most profitable. PRESENTED BY LANDR - get.landr.com/otherrecordlabels In this episode, Scott breaks down why email lists remain the most powerful marketing tool for record labels and indie artists — even in a world obsessed with TikTok, reels, and algorithms. While platforms come and go, email has quietly remained the most reliable way to reach fans, sell records, and stay top of mind. Scott explains why email consistently outperforms social media in ROI and conversions, and walks through the five simple steps any label can use to start building an email list today. If you run a record label or release music as an independent artist, this might be the most important marketing strategy you're overlooking. Step 1. Gather Any Email Address You Have Step 2. Get New Emails Step 3. Get an Email Tool Step 4. Create an Email Schedule Step 5. Stay Consistent And Grow Slow ***Get FREE Email Marketing Resources at http://otherrecordlabels.com/emailmarketing | 22m 25s | ||||||
| 3/3/26 | Weird Fruit Records - (Record Label Interview) | “Here’s some weird fruit. Trust me — once you bite into it, you’ll love it.” What if your record label operated like a farmers market for strange, exotic fruit? PRESENTED BY LANDR - get.landr.com/otherrecordlabels In this episode, I sit down with Aaron of Weird Fruit Records, a Santa Cruz-based label born out of pandemic farming, unconventional recording spaces, and a love for music that’s just a little… weird. We talk about: Why “weird” is a compliment Recording inside hollowed-out redwood trees Building a label around production and collaboration The per-project label model (instead of restrictive long-term deals) Balancing artistry, engineering, and marketing Why some music needs to slow down before it’s released This is a conversation about creativity without handcuffs — and how to introduce listeners to music they didn’t know they were ready for. | 49m 17s | ||||||
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| 2/24/26 | 4 Rules Every Label Owner Must Live By | In this episode, I break down four deceptively simple rules inspired by Make Your Own Rules by Andrew Huang — rules that every creative entrepreneur, indie artist, and record label owner needs to understand: Do things you want to do Don’t do things you want to do Do things you don’t want to do Don’t do things you don’t want to do Confusing? Good. PRESENTED BY LANDR: landr.com/otherrecordlabels These four ideas will completely reshape how you prioritize your time, evaluate opportunities, set boundaries, and build something truly original. If you run a label, make records, or consider yourself DIY — this episode is about the daily decisions that quietly determine your long-term success. Book Recommends: http://otherrecordlabels.com/books | 12m 42s | ||||||
| 2/17/26 | Alt Dub - (Record Label Interview) | “Twenty years as an artist prepared me to serve other artists better.” This week on Other Record Labels, Scott sits down with Chris Kelly, founder of Alt Dub Records, a UK-based dub techno label that’s been quietly selling out vinyl releases and building serious momentum in under two years. Presented by LANDR - landr.otherrecordlabels.com Chris is an artist-first label owner with decades of experience in sound, design, and culture — and it shows. In this wide-ranging, unplanned conversation, we dig into Chris’s musical roots, his obsession with imperfection, how strong branding and genre focus fuel demand, and why patience (especially with vinyl) is one of the hardest skills to learn as a label owner. www.altdub.com bandcamp.altdub.com | 1h 19m 51s | ||||||
| 2/10/26 | Why Your Records Aren't Selling | Why aren’t your records selling? This week, I’m breaking down five common reasons your CDs, tapes, vinyl (and even your streams) might be stuck… and what to do about it. ----Presented by LANDR - http://landr.com/otherrecordlabels ---- No, I’m not promising you’ll magically sell out overnight. But I do believe in the compound effect: a bunch of small 1% improvements that add up—going from no sales → a few sales → more sales → “okay wait… this is working.” Everything in this episode comes from a mix of my own experience, the labels I’ve interviewed and learned from, and one underrated perspective: I’m also a buyer. I’m constantly checking out new music, adding albums to Apple Music, ordering on Bandcamp, digging through stores… and I can’t tell you how often a label makes it weirdly difficult to even listen to the music, let alone buy it. So here are the five reasons your records aren’t moving: You make it really hardIf people can’t instantly hear what you do and instantly find where to buy it, you’re losing them. Fast. You’re not asking (explicitly)Press is great—but are you actually selling to retailers, distros, and your buyer list? One post isn’t a campaign. Your package is unappealingArtwork, presentation, bundling, and the whole campaign vibe matter more than most labels want to admit. Your pricing structure is offToo high, too low, shipping friction, perceived value—pricing is psychology and math. Your music is bad (or not interesting yet)Sometimes it’s not ready. Sometimes it’s the wrong fit. Sometimes it’s “good” in the worst way: forgettable. Let’s talk about aiming for interesting. If you’ve been feeling stuck, this episode is meant to give you practical tweaks you can make immediately—without turning your label into some salesy corporate robot. Listen now and pick one change to implement this week. | 24m 28s | ||||||
| 2/3/26 | Can You Trust AI With Your Music Contracts? - (Industry Insiders) | AI is showing up everywhere in the music industry — writing emails, summarizing deals, generating marketing plans… and now, drafting contracts. But just because AI can help with music law, doesn’t mean it should. ----Presented by LANDR - http://landr.com/otherrecordlabels---- In this episode, I sit down with Cassandra Spangler, a New York–based music and entertainment attorney, to talk honestly about the growing trend of artists and indie labels using AI tools like ChatGPT for legal work — and why that can quietly put your catalog, your money, and your artists at serious risk. We dig into: Why AI-generated contracts often sound legit — even when they’re wrong The hidden dangers of missing clauses, loopholes, and jurisdiction issues Why “I didn’t understand the contract” isn’t a legal defense The lack of accountability, confidentiality, and attorney-client privilege with AI How artists and labels are using AI the right way — as a starting point, not a replacement This isn’t an anti-AI episode. I openly talk about how I use AI daily — including for this podcast. But when it comes to contracts, rights, royalties, and long-term careers, this conversation draws a clear line between helpful tools and costly shortcuts. **Get in Touch with Cassandra Spangler: https://www.cspanglermusiclaw.com/ | 39m 15s | ||||||
| 1/29/26 | Starting a Record Label in 2026. - "Consistency & Commitment" - Part 8 | You should download my free TOOLKIT for new record labels... http://otherrecordlabels.com/toolkit Thanks to LANDR for sponsoring this episode. landr.com/otherrecordlabels Starting a record label is exciting—but sticking with it is where the real work begins. In Episode 8 of How to Start a Record Label This Year, Scott focuses on one of the most important (and underrated) qualities of successful labels: consistency. Not hustle. Not volume. Not chasing trends—but showing up in a sustainable, repeatable way over time. This episode explores: Why consistency matters more than frequency Choosing a release cadence you can actually maintain The difference between full-length releases, singles, and supplemental content How the pipeline supports consistency and prevents burnout Why a label’s greatest asset is its catalog, not any single release How labels act as a bridge between artists and music fans Scott reframes the role of a record label as a long-term conduit—balancing the infinite appetite of music fans with the creative rhythms of artists—and explains how thoughtful consistency builds trust, momentum, and sustainability for everyone involved. | 10m 34s | ||||||
| 1/27/26 | Starting a Record Label in 2026 - "Contracts & Royalties" - Part 7 | You should download my free TOOLKIT for new record labels... http://otherrecordlabels.com/toolkit Thanks to LANDR for sponsoring this episode. landr.com/otherrecordlabels Contracts and royalties are where a lot of people get stuck—and for good reason. Record labels have a long history of bad deals, broken trust, and artists getting the short end of the stick. In Episode 7 of How to Start a Record Label This Year, Scott tackles this head-on and explains how modern independent labels can do things differently. This episode walks through the fundamentals of contracts and royalties from a practical, empathetic perspective—without legal jargon and without pretending there’s a one-size-fits-all solution. In this episode, you’ll learn: Why you do need contracts—and why they protect artists as much as labels When to involve a music attorney (and why templates and AI contracts fall short) Common contract terms artists actually care about (term length, exclusivity, territory) How licensing master recordings works for indie labels Why 50/50 profit sharing has become a modern standard How to structure fair splits while keeping the label sustainable The importance of having these conversations before any music is released Scott emphasizes that the most important part of any contract isn’t the paperwork—it’s the conversation. Clear expectations, honest communication, and transparency from day one are what turn contracts from something scary into something empowering. | 15m 06s | ||||||
| 1/23/26 | Starting a Record Label in 2026 - "Making Money in Music" - Part 6 | You should download my free TOOLKIT for new record labels... http://otherrecordlabels.com/toolkit Thanks to LANDR for sponsoring this episode. landr.com/otherrecordlabels People love to say there’s no money in the music industry. And honestly? It can feel that way—especially when you’re just getting started. In Episode 6 of How to Start a Record Label This Year, Scott tackles this myth head-on and shares what he’s seen firsthand after nearly a decade of working with independent labels across every genre imaginable. Not major labels. Not household names. Real, niche, often obscure labels that are quietly building sustainable, profitable businesses. This episode breaks down: Why some indie labels are thriving while others stay stuck The difference between struggling revenue streams and sustainable ones Traditional label income (streaming, physical sales, sync, merch) Why the healthiest labels rely on multiple revenue streams How predictable income and release cycles balance each other The power of creating one unique revenue stream no one else has Scott explains why diversification—not chasing trends—is what keeps labels alive long-term, and why many of the most inspiring labels succeed by combining music with something bigger: studios, stores, education, events, or entirely new ideas that only they could create. | 15m 42s | ||||||
| 1/19/26 | Starting a Record Label in 2026 - "Releasing New Music" - Part 5 | You should download my free TOOLKIT for new record labels... http://otherrecordlabels.com/toolkit Thanks to LANDR for sponsoring this episode. landr.com/otherrecordlabels In Episode 5 of How to Start a Record Label This Year, Scott walks through what actually happens when you’re ready to release music—and how to do it in a way that gives your record the best possible chance to succeed. From choosing the right release date to working backward months in advance, this episode breaks down the practical realities of releasing music today, especially if you’re dealing with physical formats, digital distribution, and limited time and resources. In this episode, you’ll learn: How to choose a release date that serves the music (not just the calendar) Why working backward from release day is essential—especially for vinyl and physical formats What assets you need before release day (artwork, photos, videos, press materials, instrumentals) How pre-release singles, preorders, and promotion fit into a release timeline Why release day is not the finish line—and how to think about the long tail of your music | 14m 42s | ||||||
| 1/15/26 | Starting a Record Label in 2026 - "Finding & Signing Artists" - Part 4 | One of the most intimidating questions new label owners face is: How do I actually find artists for my record label?And right behind it: How do I even approach an artist without feeling awkward or unqualified? PRESENTED BY LANDR - landr.com/otherrecordlabels In Episode 4, Scott breaks this down in the most practical—and human—way possible. Instead of chasing hype or cold-pitching strangers, he explains why the healthiest labels grow slowly, organically, and through genuine relationships. This episode explores: Why most labels start with the founder’s own music or close community How to “expand your radius” from friends to friends-of-friends to wider scenes Matching your label’s stage with artists at the same point in their career Using Bandcamp as a powerful (and underused) artist discovery tool Why community matters more than connections The right mindset for approaching artists: being a fan first, always Scott shares real stories from his own label’s early days and explains why starting from authenticity—not opportunity—is the foundation of long-term trust, sustainable growth, and meaningful releases. | 13m 27s | ||||||
| 1/13/26 | Starting a Record Label in 2026 - "Launching Your Record Label" - Part 3 | One of the biggest questions new label owners ask is: When can I officially launch my record label?Is it when you announce the name? Post a logo? Release your first record? PRESENTED BY LANDR - http://landr.com/otherrecordlabels In Episode 3, Scott explains why the real answer has less to do with a launch date—and everything to do with what he calls the pipeline. This episode breaks down why a record label isn’t legitimate because of one release, but because of what comes next. Scott walks through how professional labels think months (and years) ahead, and why momentum, consistency, and planning are what separate sustainable labels from one-off projects. You’ll learn: What a “pipeline” actually is and why every label needs one before launching How far ahead your releases should realistically be planned A manageable release cadence for one-person and small labels How to stagger projects across 3, 6, and 12-month timelines Why pipelines build confidence with artists, press, and fans A strong pipeline keeps your label from stalling after the excitement of release day and helps you build a healthy, sustainable catalog over time—even when some releases perform better than others. | 12m 12s | ||||||
| 1/8/26 | Starting a Record Label in 2026 - "Branding Your Label" - Part 2 | You should download my free TOOLKIT for new record labels... http://otherrecordlabels.com/toolkit Thanks to LANDR for sponsoring this episode. landr.com/otherrecordlabels In Episode 2 of How to Start a Record Label This Year, Scott dives into branding—specifically how to name your label, define your identity, and build a brand that actually connects with the right audience. If you’ve been stuck obsessing over the perfect label name, this episode is your permission slip to move on. Scott breaks down why your name won’t make or break your label, what does matter when choosing one, and how to avoid common mistakes that can slow you down before you even release music. This episode covers: Why most successful labels weren’t built on clever names—but clear identity Practical rules for choosing a label name (logos, domains, searchability, and social handles) How niche, taste, and curation form the real foundation of your brand Using genre, geography, format, and values to “dog-whistle” to your audience Translating your niche into visual branding, design, and consistency Branding isn’t just logos and colors—it’s the sum of your taste, your mission, and the community you’re building. When done right, someone should be able to spot one of your records from across the room and know it belongs to your label. | 15m 31s | ||||||
| 1/6/26 | Starting a Record Label in 2026 - "The Imposter Syndrome" - Part 1 | You should download my free TOOLKIT for new record labels... http://otherrecordlabels.com/toolkit Thanks to LANDR for sponsoring this episode. landr.com/otherrecordlabels Imposter syndrome is one of the biggest reasons people never start a record label. That quiet (or loud) voice asking: Who am I to do this? Why would anyone care about my taste, my curation, or my point of view? In this episode, Scott breaks down why imposter syndrome never really goes away—even for Grammy-winning label owners—and why that’s actually good news. Instead of waiting to feel “qualified,” he reframes the conversation around what truly makes a record label valuable: your unique taste, your lived experience, and the specific combination of influences only you can bring to the table. You’ll learn how to: Understand why imposter syndrome is normal at every level of the music industry Identify the unique ingredients that make your label different (genre, geography, format, values, and that all-important X-factor) Stop comparing yourself to existing labels and start owning your own curation If you’ve been stuck in analysis paralysis, feeling like an outsider, or waiting for permission to begin—this episode is your reminder that no one else can build the label you’re meant to create. Because yes, we’re all imposters. And that’s exactly why your record label matters. | 10m 28s | ||||||
| 12/30/25 | Why I'm Optimistic About The Music Industry | Why I’m Optimistic About The Music Industry Times are tough in the music industry—and there’s no point pretending otherwise. Streaming payouts are shrinking, costs are rising, the economy is squeezing fans, and AI plus the distraction economy are reshaping how people engage with music. In this episode of Other Record Labels, I acknowledge the very real challenges indie labels and musicians are facing right now—and then I make the case for optimism. PRESENTED BY LANDR - http://landr.com/otherrecordlabels I share five reasons why, despite everything working against us, I genuinely believe the future still holds opportunity for independent artists and labels. From the quiet resurgence of physical media, to the power of human connection, to why your unique label path may actually be the solution—not the problem—this episode is about perspective, resilience, and rebellion. If you’ve been feeling discouraged, burned out, or close to giving up, this conversation is for you. Because even when it doesn’t make sense, we’re still here—and that matters. Sign up for Labelmates: http://otherrecordlabels.com/labelmates | 20m 37s | ||||||
| 12/23/25 | New Release Blueprint - Lesson 4 | Lesson 4 — HELPING YOUR NEW RELEASE Bonus Release Questions You’re Probably Asking Right Now PRESENTED BY LANDR - landr.com/otherrecordlabels This episode is a rapid-fire support library for all the extra stuff that can trip up a release if you’re DIY. Think of it as your “release survival guide” for the details that matter once the plan is in motion. Plus we look at the big macro picture of staying in the game long enough to see success happen for you and your releases! This episode is taken from the masterclass, New Release Blueprint, available exclusively in The Record Label Academy. Get lifetime access today: http://otherrecordlabels.com/academy | 6m 46s | ||||||
| 12/18/25 | Christmas Records - (For the Love of Vinyl) - Episode 11 | FOR THE LOVE OF VINYLPresented by A to Z Media (atozmedia.com) What makes a Christmas record timeless? Why do holiday albums outsell almost everything else on vinyl every December? And which Christmas records are actually worth owning? In this festive episode of For the Love of Vinyl, host Scott Orr is joined by Terry Cole of Colemine Records and Plaid Room Records (Loveland, Ohio) for a deep dive into the world of Christmas records. From Vince Guaraldi and Bing Crosby to Michael Bublé, Phil Spector, and soul Christmas classics, Scott and Terry unpack why holiday records remain one of the most powerful rituals in vinyl culture. They explore: Why Christmas records sell at a completely different scale than regular vinyl The best-selling Christmas albums of all time (and the surprises) Underrated holiday records every collector should know Original vs. traditional Christmas songs—and why originals are so hard to pull off Whether Christmas albums are a smart investment for indie artists and labels How record stores prepare all year for a few short weeks of holiday madness Along the way, you’ll hear personal favorites, controversial takes (yes, Wonderful Christmastime comes up), behind-the-scenes retail data, and why Christmas music might be the most “evergreen” genre of them all. Presented by A to Z Media — your go-to partner for custom vinyl pressing and physical media manufacturing. Learn more at atozmedia.com Order the new Cher Xmas Album here: plaidroomrecords.com | 51m 27s | ||||||
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