Over the Back Fence

This week Nicola and Di welcome the remarkable Deborah Wallace, a woman who spent 36 years on the front line of policing in New South Wales, rising through the ranks to lead the Middle Eastern Crime Squad and the Asian Crime Squad, and taking on some of Australia’s most dangerous criminals along the way. Known for her signature style as much as her toughness, Deborah is proof that you never have to compromise who you are to do extraordinary work. We chat to Deborah about her early days as one of just eight women training alongside over 100 men, and the wonderful advice from veteran policewoman that shaped her entire career: never compromise your femininity or your integrity. She shares the heartbreaking, goosebump-inducing story of being chosen to walk a reenactment of Anita Cobby’s final steps as a young constable, and how that case changed the trajectory of her career and led to a lifelong bond with Anita’s parents, Gary and Grace. We talk about Deborah’s years leading Strike Force Raptor targeting outlaw motorcycle gangs, the devastating night her team faced the two things every commander fears most, and the extraordinary grace shown by the officers involved in its aftermath. We also hear about her remarkable partnership with the late Father Chris Riley, and how an unlikely alliance between a police sergeant and a priest changed the lives of gang-affected teenagers in Cabramatta. Deborah leaves us with beautiful reflections on leadership, resilience, and why she believes the vast majority of people in the world are good. She also shares some wonderful advice for anyone facing a big career change or retirement.  We had the best time with Deborah. Her warmth, wisdom and strength are a gift. We hope you love this episode as much as we did! This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or [email protected] Buy Deborah’s book A Woman of Force here - https://www.amazon.com.au/Woman-Force-Mark-Morri-ebook/dp/B08CB7RLCL Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/  Find out more about the next OTBF trip to Bhutan in October 2027 - https://www.travelmanagers.com.au/ptm/michellenicholas/explore/travel-itineraries/ Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What happens when a simple poem reaches 100 million listens and touches people all over the world? This week Nicola and Di chat with poet and writer James McCrae. James is the author of the viral poem Instructions Before Visiting Earth, which has now reached over 100 million people, and he kindly opens the episode by reading it to us live. It's a beautiful, grounding way to start a conversation that stayed with us long after we stopped recording. We talk to James about where the poem came from and he shares the line that moves him most, about how nothing in life is truly ours to keep, and why that simple, humbling truth is something we spend our whole lives trying to avoid. James opens up about creativity as a form of self-care, something he beautifully describes as "spiritual hygiene," and tells us about the open mic nights and writing workshops he hosts in Austin. We also talk about intuition, somatic writing, and why James believes stepping back from our logical minds opens us up to something far wiser than we give ourselves credit for. We loved hearing James's thoughts on why he believes we're here to experience the full spectrum of life rather than clinging only to the good. His reflections on endings being bridges to new beginnings, drawn from his own experience of being fired multiple times before finding his path as a writer, left us both a little teary and so inspired. We had the most beautiful, soul-filling conversation with James. His wisdom and warmth are a gift. We hope you love this episode as much as we did! This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or [email protected] Follow James on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/wordsarevibrations/ Join the Waitlist to Buy James’ Book Instructions Before Visiting Earth here - https://www.jamesmccrae.com/instructions-before-visiting-earth Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/  Find out more about the next OTBF trip to Bhutan in October 2027 - https://www.travelmanagers.com.au/ptm/michellenicholas/explore/travel-itineraries/ Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week Nicola and Di chat with Sally Mackinnon, one of Australia's best-known personal stylists and author of Styled: How to Dress as Your Most Stylish Self. Sally has spent over 20 years helping women find their style, and this conversation was full of the practical, honest wisdom she's become known for. In this episode, we chat to Sally about her approach to shopping smarter, including her rule of only buying pieces that fit your real, everyday life (not your holiday fantasy life), and the classic "80/20" wardrobe trap most of us fall into. She also shares her refreshingly rules-free philosophy on personal style, and an empowering approach that focuses on dressing for how an outfit makes you feel. We talk about decluttering a full wardrobe, why alterations are one of the most underrated style tools out there, and the genius Sudoku packing method that Sally uses for travelling light without the stress.  Sally leaves us with beautiful advice on trusting your gut when it comes to getting dressed and why clothing is such a powerful tool for expressing your personality.  We had such a great time with Sally. She's warm, wise and easy to talk to and we loved all of the practical tips she shared with us. We hope you love this episode as much as we did! This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or [email protected] Follow Sally on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/styledbysally/ Buy Sally’s book Styled here - https://www.penguin.com.au/books/styled-9781761349201 Find out more about Sally’s styling work here - https://www.styledbysally.com.au/personal-styling-melbourne/ Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/  Find out more about the next OTBF trip to Bhutan in October 2027 - https://www.travelmanagers.com.au/ptm/michellenicholas/explore/travel-itineraries/ Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week Nicola and Di chat with entrepreneur and visionary, Mennan Yelkenci. Mennan was awarded the 2024 Young Entrepreneur of the Year and is the founder of Booked.ai, the world's first IATA-accredited AI travel agent. Mennan swapped a career in corporate ASX roles for the world of startups, and we loved hearing his story and the exciting projects he’s working on.  In this episode, we chat to Mennan about the path that led him here. From consulting on renewable energy projects (and helping international developers communicate with Aussie farmers), to building Apify to solve his own frustrations with outsourced tech development, and finally launching Booked.ai, an IATA-accredited AI travel agent, to help plan and book your next trip. Mennan is an amazing example of someone who spots a problem and builds the solution. We get into exactly how Booked.ai works, the built-in duty-of-care safeguards that check destination safety before you fly, right through to the reassurance that real human travel agents are still there on the back end when something needs a personal touch. Mennan is clear that Booked.ai isn't here to replace human travel agents, but to offer an alternative for the times you just want it sorted, fast and to disrupt the online booking space.  We also talk about our love of travel, Mennan’s Turkish heritage and his incredible tips for a Turkey itinerary (Istanbul, Alaçatı, Bodrum and Cappadocia are all must-dos), and what makes him tick as a new dad and a serial entrepreneur. We had such a great time with Mennan. His energy, ambition and vision for the future of travel are infectious. We hope you love this episode as much as we did! This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or [email protected] Follow Mennan on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/mennannn/ Follow Booked AI on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/booked.ai/ Find out more about Booked AI and use it here - https://booked.ai/ Follow Booked AI on LinkedIn here - au.linkedin.com/company/booked-ai Follow Mennan on LinkedIn here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mennan-yelkenci/ Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/  Find out more about the India trip, access the itinerary and book your place here - https://wetu.com/ItineraryOutputs/Discovery/78191347-4d64-4c52-acfd-5422d92ec90f Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week Nicola and Di chat with the bubbly, gorgeous Amanda Ramsay, an award-winning makeup artist who's worked with some of the biggest names in the Australian entertainment industry. Amanda has worked across TV, weddings and events, but for her, beauty has always gone far beyond the makeup itself. It's about confidence, self-care, and feeling good from the inside out. We chat to Amanda about the light bulb moment that changed the course of her career when she walked into a beauty retailer as a new mum in her early 40s and realised that no one was serving women 40 plus. That moment sparked what would become a mission to help thousands of women feel confident and seen, through in-person classes, online courses, and uncomplicated, real-world techniques that actually work at this stage of life. We dive deep into all things skincare and makeup, from why hydration is the real key to a glowing complexion, to Amanda's "less is more" philosophy when it comes to texture and coverage. She shares her favourite tricks for looking instantly more awake, why blush and a strong brow can transform your whole face, and her take on lip liners, stains and fillers for a fuller-looking pout without looking overdone. We also talk about the emotional side of beauty, the importance of finding your own features to love rather than fixate on, and why reinvention can be one of the most empowering things a woman can do. Amanda's advice throughout is simple, practical and full of heart, and we walked away with tips we can't wait to try. We had so much fun chatting with Amanda. She's warm, generous and clearly loves helping women feel their best. We hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did! This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or [email protected] Follow Amanda on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/amandaramsaymakeup/ Find out more about Amanda’s Make-Up Course for Women Over 40 here - https://shop.amandaramsay.com.au/collections/start-here/products/ageless-beauty-course Buy Amanda’s favourite make-up products here - https://shop.amandaramsay.com.au/ Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/  Find out more about the India trip, access the itinerary and book your place here - https://wetu.com/ItineraryOutputs/Discovery/78191347-4d64-4c52-acfd-5422d92ec90f Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week Nicola and Di chat with the inspiring and radiant Lizzie Williamson. Lizzie is a global motivator, TEDx speaker, bestselling author, former professional dancer, and is also known as "The Excuse Buster from Down Under." Lizzie has shared stages with Barack and Michelle Obama, Arianna Huffington and the Dalai Lama, and brings her infectious energy and practical tools to help people stop overthinking and start taking action. We chat to Lizzie about her early love of dance and the devastating postnatal depression she experienced after the birth of her second daughter. She shares the moment that changed everything, and how it only took two minutes to take the smallest possible step forward.  That two-minute moment became the foundation of Lizzie's philosophy and her bestselling books, including her latest, Just Two Minutes. We talk about how shifting from an "all or nothing" mindset to "all or something" can be the difference between staying stuck and getting unstuck, and why the smallest actions can create ripple effects that change your life.  We also loved hearing about Lizzie's tips for overcoming the sedentary workday, and her simple but powerful advice on gratitude, comparison, and building a circle of support, even if it starts with just one phone call to one friend.  We had the best time with Lizzie, her warmth and energy are contagious, and we hope you love this episode as much as we did! This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or [email protected] Follow Lizzie on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/lizziewilliamsonofficial Find out more about Lizzie’s work and buy her books here - https://www.lizziewilliamson.com/ Find out more about The Gidget Foundation here - https://www.gidgetfoundation.org.au/contact-us Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/  Find out more about the India trip, access the itinerary and book your place here - https://wetu.com/ItineraryOutputs/Discovery/78191347-4d64-4c52-acfd-5422d92ec90f Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week Nicola and Di welcome a very special double act, Grant Denyer and his wife Chezzi. Grant has spent decades entertaining Australians on television with his quick wit, boundless energy, and refreshing honesty about life's highs and lows. Chezzi's journey into spirituality and intuitive work has inspired so many to think differently about life's deeper questions. Together, this couple have weathered incredible highs and real challenges, and we loved every minute of getting to know their story. In this episode, we chat to Grant and Chezzi about how they met as colleagues who, by their own admission, didn't even like each other at first, until the moment when everything changed. We also talk candidly about the aftermath of Grant's horrific accident and the painkiller addiction that followed, and how Chezzi found herself thrust into the role of carer within weeks of their relationship beginning. It's raw, honest, and a powerful reminder of what it means to show up for someone through the hardest of times. We also dive into Chezzi's incredible book, The Weird Little Girl Who Talked to Ghosts, and her lifelong connection to spirit. She opens up about the childhood experiences she didn't understand, to losing touch with her gift entirely, to the profound loss that brought it flooding back. Her stories about the messages she's able to deliver, and the healing it brings to grieving families, are truly beautiful to hear. Grant and Chezzi also open up about the work they've each done on themselves around understanding their childhood wounds, learning how those patterns show up in marriage, and how self-awareness (rather than blame) has helped them build a stronger relationship. We talk about Grant's Gold Logie win, his fear of failure, and Chezzi's beautifully instinctive approach to life. This is one of those conversations that has it all: laughter, honesty and real wisdom. We had the best time chatting with Grant and Chezzi  and we hope you love this episode as much as we did! This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or [email protected] Follow Grant on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/grantdenyer/ Follow Chezzi on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/chezzidenyer/ Buy Chezzi’s book The Weird Little Girl Who Talked To Ghosts here - https://www.briobooks.store/products/the-weird-little-girl-who-talked-to-ghosts Follow Grant’s work here - https://www.grantdenyer.com.au/ Follow Chezzi’s work here - https://chezzidenyer.com.au/ Find out more about the India trip, access the itinerary and book your place here - https://wetu.com/ItineraryOutputs/Discovery/78191347-4d64-4c52-acfd-5422d92ec90f Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/  Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week Nicola and Di chat about love, lust, dating disasters, red flags and the secrets to making romance actually work, with the one and only Dr. Lurve. She's a psychologist and relationship expert who has dedicated her career to helping people understand what makes us tick when it comes to love, and she brought so much wisdom (and so many laughs) to the studio. In this episode Dr. Lurve discusses how you don't need to be "fully healed" before you find love. In fact, she says relationships are more like yoga than a finish line, a practice you never fully master. She breaks down the difference between chemistry and intimacy, why love bombing feels so addictive, and how understanding your partner's love language is the map to actually speaking to their heart. We talk all about the world of dating apps, the good, the bad and the ugly, and Dr. Lurve shares a simple tip for getting things off the screen and into real life within 21 days. She also shares why baggage isn't a red flag but a window into character, how to spot the addictive push-pull "crumbing" cycle, and why staying with an avoidant partner can quietly wear you down over time. Dr. Lurve reminds us that if you’re starting over after a breakup or a divorce, you’re actually in a position of power rather than weakness. You've got the data, the wisdom and the freedom to write a new chapter. We talk about dating later in life, the importance of matching values over chemistry, how to have hard conversations without ambushing your partner, and why learning to do conflict well might be the real secret to a relationship's longevity. We had such a great time chatting with Dr. Lurve, it was like having another girlfriend with us in the studio. We hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did! This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or [email protected] Follow Dr. Lurve on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/dr.lurve/ Find out more about Dr. Lurve’s work here - https://www.drlurve.com/workwithme Listen to Between The Sheets podcast here - https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/between-the-sheets-with-dr-lurve/id1480610277 Find out more about the India trip, access the itinerary and book your place here - https://wetu.com/ItineraryOutputs/Discovery/78191347-4d64-4c52-acfd-5422d92ec90f Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/  Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week Nicola and Di chat with the super talented Kathryn Eisman. Kathryn has already had a remarkable career and achieved so much at such a young age. She’s written 2 best-selling books, been nominated for multiple Emmy awards as a TV journalist, interviewed some of the biggest celebrities for E! News, created and hosted the TV series Undressed, as well as created and built a hugely successful fashion label, High Heel Jungle. Not only that, she’s also a mum of 2 beautiful daughters.  In this episode we chat to Kathryn about her incredible career and how at the age of 21, she moved to New York to promote a book she’d written, and ended up becoming the youngest on-air reporter in NBC history. After many successful years with NBC, Kathryn made the move to LA, where she was the head of fashion and lifestyle coverage for E! News and got to interview some of the world’s biggest celebrities. We get to hear the stories of her most memorable interviews, which you’ll want to tune in for!   We also talk to Kathryn about the psychology of style. Kathryn has written 2 bestselling books, How to Tell a Man By His Shoes and How to Tell a Woman By Her Handbag, as well as produced the TV series Undressed, to help us understand how the way a person dresses can tell you something about them. It’s so fascinating to think of style in this way and we loved hearing Kathryn’s stories of what your clothes reveal about you.  Kathryn chats to us about her hosiery label High Heel Jungle, what inspired her to create the business and how amazing it’s been to have her label worn by the Kardashians, Kylie Jenner, Ariana Grande, and Rihanna, to name just a few. She shares what it’s been like to balance her career with motherhood, and the importance of going after your dreams.  We absolutely loved chatting to Kathryn and had so many laughs in the studio with her. Her story is super inspiring and we love the way Kathryn is all about supporting other women and celebrating their successes. We hope you love this episode as much as we did.  This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or [email protected] We’ve created a special offer for our Back Fence listeners to use at Positive Energy. Listeners can get a 10 class pack for $150 (save $90) or 25% off an unlimited membership for 3 months. Use code: BACKFENCEPE to activate your special offer.  Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/  Follow Kathryn on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/kathryneisman/ Follow High Heel Jungle on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/highheeljungleofficial/ Buy High Heel Jungle tights and socks here - https://highheeljungleshop.com/ Buy Kathryn’s Books here  - https://www.kathryneisman.com/writing-books Find out more about the India trip, access the itinerary and book your place here - https://wetu.com/ItineraryOutputs/Discovery/78191347-4d64-4c52-acfd-5422d92ec90f Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts Follow Positive Energy on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/positiveenergy_health_fitness/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week Nicola and Di chat with the fabulous Diane Gilman. Diane is known as the ‘Jean Queen’ and has spent decades proving that age is just a number. From building a fashion empire and revolutionising denim for women, surviving breast cancer and becoming one of the leading voices in the pro-aging movement, Diane keeps reinventing herself at every chapter. Now in her 80s, Diane is showing us how to stay vibrant, visible and unapologetically ourselves.     In this episode we hear about Diane’s early life, the way she visualised the life she wanted at the age of 8, dreaming of being a fashion designer in New York, and then how she made it happen!  Diane tells us the incredible story of how she found herself designing jeans for some of the most legendary musicians including Janice Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Cher and Rod Stewart, to name a few. We also hear how she got her start on the Home Shopping Network and the way that skyrocketed her career. Always one to believe in herself and back herself, Diane’s story really shows the power of having a positive attitude and putting yourself forward for opportunities. Diane opens up about her cancer diagnosis and the way her treatment transformed her life. You’ll want to hear the amazing story of Sheila and how she changed Diane’s outlook on life forever! We also talk to Diane about her thoughts on aging, why she’s loving it, and how she’s living her best life in her 80s and has no plans of slowing down or going out quietly.  Diane is full of so much wisdom and great tips for getting the most out of life. Her energy and enthusiasm is infectious and we were so inspired speaking with her. We hope you have as much fun listening to this as we did! This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or [email protected] We’ve created a special offer for our Back Fence listeners to use at Positive Energy. Listeners can get a 10 class pack for $150 (save $90) or 25% off an unlimited membership for 3 months. Use code: BACKFENCEPE to activate your special offer.  Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/ Follow Diane on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/thedianegilman/ Listen to Diane’s podcast Too Young To Be Old here - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/too-young-to-be-old-with-diane-gilman-the-queen-of-jeans/id1691401600 Watch Diane’s YouTube channel here - https://www.youtube.com/@thedianegilman Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts Follow Positive Energy on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/positiveenergy_health_fitness/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week Nicola and Di chat with the incredible Marisa Peer. Marisa is a world-renowned therapist, best-selling author, award-winning speaker and the creator of Rapid Transformational Therapy. After working with Hollywood celebrities, CEOs, royalty and sports stars for decades, Rapid Transformational Therapy was Marisa’s way of having a global impact and making her techniques available to everyone. Marisa’s message is simple, she teaches us how to retrain the mind and rewrite our stories to truly change our lives.   In this episode Marisa gives us so many incredible tools to help us shift our mindset and fully live into our potential. She tells us the 3 key things that you need to be able to do really well if you want to thrive in any area of your life, and goes through different examples of how you can apply these things every day.  We talk about the power of language and the importance of the words you use and Marisa goes through specific examples of words that you need to stop saying because they are confusing your brain and keeping you stuck.  We discuss Marisa’s new book, Your Mind, Your Rules and she goes through so many great examples of the rules that your brain is following and how you can work with these rules to make your brain your greatest friend and ally, working with you to create the life you want.  This is such a motivating and inspiring episode with so many practical tools that can really help you make positive changes in your life. We were absolutely thrilled to be able to spend some time with Marisa and hear her simple, yet powerful reminders for living a phenomenal life. We hope you love it as much as we did!  This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or [email protected] We’ve created a special offer for our Back Fence listeners to use at Positive Energy. Listeners can get a 10 class pack for $150 (save $90) or 25% off an unlimited membership for 3 months. Use code: BACKFENCEPE to activate your special offer.  Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/ Follow Marisa on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/marisapeertherapy/  Buy Marisa’s new book here - https://marisapeer.com/ Get Marisa’s free audio downloads here - https://marisapeer.com/free-gifts/ Find out more about Marisa’s courses here - https://shop.marisapeer.com/ Listen to Marisa’s podcast here - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/master-your-mind-with-marisa/id1548923376 Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts Follow Positive Energy on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/positiveenergy_health_fitness/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week Nicola and Di chat with the fun and uplifting duo Lise and Sarah. Nicola and Di met Lise & Sarah last December in the line waiting to meet Oprah, and they knew they had to get them on the podcast. Lise & Sarah, often known as ‘Those 2 Girls’ from their radio days, have now become successful podcasters, authors, speakers, and the creators of Disco Club. They’ve backed themselves, made big shifts and built something really special together. They’re also mums, juggling family life, careers, and navigating their forties with all of the change, chaos and reinvention that comes with it. We couldn’t wait to chat to them about it all.  In this episode we hear the story of how Lise and Sarah first met, found themselves talking for 5hrs and haven’t stopped chatting since! We talk about their incredible friendship and chemistry, which led to them getting tapped on the shoulder to host a national breakfast radio show, and how they juggled that career with raising their children. They also share about the leap they made to leave radio and start their own podcast, the difficult times that followed, as well as the hard work, belief, manifesting, intention-setting and perseverance that brought them to where they are today. It’s such an inspiring story! We chat to the girls about life over the decades - we get to hear what being in their forties means to them and Di and Nicola share what life has been like in their sixties - newsflash, it keeps getting better!  This episode is a really great chat amongst girlfriends. It’s full of laughs, stories and sharing life truths with each other. We absolutely loved this conversation with Lise and Sarah and we hope you enjoy it as much as we did.  This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or [email protected] We’ve created a special offer for our Back Fence listeners to use at Positive Energy. Listeners can get a 10 class pack for $150 (save $90) or 25% off an unlimited membership for 3 months. Use code: BACKFENCEPE to activate your special offer.    We'd love you to join us for our Backfence Disco on Friday, May 29th at Positive Energy in Sydney. It's going to be such a fun night and we can't wait to dance the night away with you in person! Buy your tickets here: https://events.humanitix.com/over-the-back-fence-disco   Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/ Follow Lise and Sarah on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/liseandsarah/ Listen to Lise and Sarah’s podcast here - https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/lise-and-sarah/id1533920893 Find out more about Lise and Sarah’s Disco Club here - https://www.discoclub.com.au/ Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts Follow Positive Energy on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/positiveenergy_health_fitness/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week Nicola and Di are back with Over The Money Fence with Roger Montgomery.   This series aims to help you take control of your finances with clarity and confidence. Roger is the Founder and Chairman of Montgomery Investment Management, has over 30 years’ investing experience and is a highly respected financial commentator featuring on various ABC programs, as well as his popular column in The Australian newspaper. He is also the author of best-selling investment guidebook Value.able.   In this episode, Roger reassures us that despite everything that’s going on globally, it’s not all doom and gloom when it comes to the economy and markets.  Are we in a recession? We discuss why the cost-of-living crisis and how this is changing our spending habits, plus the latest pricing tricks used by supermarkets and airlines.  We also talk about property and why Roger believes that people who are predicting that property prices in Australia will fall by 40% are wrong.   He goes through all of the reasons why this isn’t likely to happen and explains the 2 major drivers of property prices.   He also shares his thoughts on negative gearing and capital gains tax, and what they mean for investors – very timely given this week’s Budget announcement.  Is now a good time to spend or save? Roger gives us an excellent and practical tool for how we can build up our savings when the cost of living is high.   Roger also shares his insights about where we should be investing now and goes through the difference between various private credit funds and the importance of investing in quality.   As always, we loved having this conversation with Roger in the studio. He always makes us feel more calm and confident about our financial decisions. We hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did.   This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or [email protected]  Find out more about Montgomery Investment Management here - https://montinvest.com  Find out more about Montgomery private credit funds here - https://www.montinvest.com/privatecredit  Read Roger’s Whitepaper on private credit funds here -    https://rogermontgomery.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Whitepaper-_-cutting-through-the-noise-why-australian-private-credit-stands-apart.pdf Learn more about Roger and read his articles here - https://rogermontgomery.com  Buy Roger's book Value.able here - https://rogermontgomery.com/valueable-book/  Follow Roger on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/rogerjmontgomery/  Follow Roger’s YouTube channel here - https://www.youtube.com/user/rogerjmontgomery Follow Roger on X here - https://x.com/rjmontgomery  Follow Roger on Facebook here - https://www.facebook.com/montgomeryroger/ Follow Roger on LinkedIn here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rogermontgomery/  Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/  Follow Nicola and Di on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.