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Ep 106: The Messy Middle of Recovery with Rawnaq Albathigi
Jun 26, 2026
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Between Bites with Jillian Lampert: Eating Disorders in the LGBTQIA+ Community
Jun 12, 2026
8m 36s
Episode 105: Healing Trauma and Eating Disorders Together with Jenny Beck and M Mullan
May 29, 2026
28m 11s
Between Bites with Jillian Lampert: Mental Health Awareness Month
May 15, 2026
11m 33s
Episode 104: What Every Parent Should Know About Body Image with Charlotte Markey
Apr 24, 2026
35m 33s
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| 6/26/26 | ![]() Ep 106: The Messy Middle of Recovery with Rawnaq Albathigi | Episode description: In this episode of Peace Meal, Rawnaq Albathigi joins us to share her experience with an eating disorder, and how it’s shaped the perspective she's bringing to the field as an emerging dietitian. Drawing on a recovery journey she describes as anything but linear, Rawnaq makes the case for a more individualized understanding of healing from an eating disorder, and for treatment that's far more accessible than it currently is, especially for people whose culture and faith fall outside the Western framework much of it is built around. About Rawnaq: Rawnaq Albathigi (she/her) is a senior at the University of Arizona, where she is majoring in dietetics and pursuing a weight-inclusive certificate. Drawing on her own experience with an eating disorder, she hopes to become a dietitian and to make eating disorder care more accessible and culturally responsive. We cover: How Rawnaq's eating disorder took hold, and the purpose it served for her What it means to make recovery progress without it being all-or-nothing Why intuitive eating isn't the universal goal it's often made out to be The cultural and religious realities that Western-centric treatment can miss The barriers to eating disorder care, and who most frequently gets left out How she stopped seeing her own recovery as separate from the work she wants to do In Rawnaq’s words: On trying to force a recovery timeline: "When I decided to go into nutrition around 17, I chose my major feeling like a fraud. I always thought: ‘how am I going to help others when I can't even help myself?’...I thought I was running out of time and needed to really be in recovery by the time I graduate. Not because I wanted to, but because I thought I had to if I ever wanted to be in the nutrition field…but putting that pressure on myself did not really serve me." On the false binary of recovery: "Real recovery is rarely binary, and treating it that way, it can do more harm than good. So eating disorder recovery isn't like flipping a switch. It's much closer to a spectrum…Someone [might] eat regularly but still has eating disorder thoughts. Or they have a tough day and slip into an old behavior, but stop sooner than before. That doesn't mean they're suddenly in relapse. They're in the ‘messy middle’, what I like to call it, which is actually where most recovery happens." On the expansiveness of recovery: "If recovery, as it's been presented to you, doesn't feel possible, I'd really encourage you to ask: is it recovery itself that feels impossible, or the version of recovery you have been given? Because those are two different things, and people deserve a version of healing that actually fits them, their culture, their experiences, their values, their reality." Connect with Rawnaq on Instagram (@rawnaq_albathigi) and LinkedIn. About the podcast: Peace Meal is a podcast hosted by The Emily Program that covers topics related to eating disorders, body image, and how society may influence our thinking. You can find Peace Meal on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube Music. If you enjoy our show, please rate, review, subscribe, and tell your friends! Are you interested in being a guest on Peace Meal? Email podcast@emilyprogram.com for more information. | — | ||||||
| 6/12/26 | ![]() Between Bites with Jillian Lampert: Eating Disorders in the LGBTQIA+ Community✨ | eating disordersLGBTQIA+ community+3 | Dr. Jillian Lampert | The Emily Program | LGBTQIA+University of Minnesota+1 | eating disordersLGBTQIA++5 | — | 8m 36s | |
| 5/29/26 | ![]() Episode 105: Healing Trauma and Eating Disorders Together with Jenny Beck and M Mullan✨ | traumaeating disorders+3 | Jenny BeckM Mullan | The Emily Program | Columbus, Ohio | eating disorderstrauma+3 | — | 28m 11s | |
| 5/15/26 | ![]() Between Bites with Jillian Lampert: Mental Health Awareness Month✨ | eating disordersmental health+3 | Dr. Jillian Lampert | The Emily Program | University of MinnesotaUniversity of Vermont | eating disordersmental health+4 | — | 11m 33s | |
| 4/24/26 | ![]() Episode 104: What Every Parent Should Know About Body Image with Charlotte Markey✨ | body imagemental health+3 | Charlotte Markey | The Emily ProgramThe Body Image Book for Girls | Pennsylvania | body imagemental health+3 | — | 35m 33s | |
| 4/10/26 | ![]() Between Bites with Jillian Lampert: Co-Occurrence of SUDs & EDs✨ | eating disorderssubstance use disorders+3 | Jillian Lampert | The Emily Program | — | eating disorderssubstance use disorders+5 | — | 8m 55s | |
| 3/27/26 | ![]() Episode 103: Rethinking Nutrition in Recovery with Shena Washburn✨ | nutrition in recoveryeating disorders+3 | Shena Washburn | The Emily ProgramInternational Association of Eating Disorder Professionals | — | nutritioneating disorder recovery+5 | — | 36m 02s | |
| 3/13/26 | ![]() Between Bites with Jillian Lampert: National Nutrition Month✨ | nutritioneating disorders+3 | Jillian Lampert | The Emily Program | — | nutritioneating disorders+5 | — | 10m 28s | |
| 2/27/26 | ![]() Episode 102: Learning Self-Love in Recovery with Jason Peterson✨ | self-loveeating disorder recovery+4 | Jason Peterson | The Emily Program | — | eating disorderrecovery+6 | — | 25m 58s | |
| 2/13/26 | ![]() Between Bites with Jillian Lampert: Why Recover?✨ | recoveryeating disorders+3 | Dr. Jillian Lampert | The Emily Program | — | eating disordersrecovery motivation+3 | — | 8m 50s | |
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| 1/30/26 | ![]() Episode 101: Helping Kids Build a Peaceful Relationship with Food with Gretchen Wallace✨ | relationship with foodbody image+3 | Gretchen Wallace | The Emily Program | — | food freedombody image struggles+3 | — | 37m 22s | |
| 1/16/26 | ![]() Between Bites with Jillian Lampert: New Year’s Resolutions✨ | New Year’s resolutionseating disorders+3 | Dr. Jillian Lampert | The Emily ProgramPew Research Center | University of MinnesotaUniversity of Vermont | New Year’s resolutionseating disorders+3 | — | 12m 17s | |
| 12/19/25 | ![]() Between Bites with Jillian Lampert: Home for the Holidays✨ | eating disordersholiday challenges+3 | Dr. Jillian Lampert | The Emily Program | University of MinnesotaUniversity of Vermont | eating disorderholidays+3 | — | 15m 58s | |
| 12/5/25 | ![]() Episode 100: It’s Not Just Picky Eating: Recognizing and Treating ARFID with Mem & Elysse✨ | Avoidant/Restrictive Food Intake DisorderARFID treatment+3 | Mem WoodElysse Thebner Miller | The Emily ProgramRenfrew Center of South Florida+1 | North CarolinaRaleigh–Durham | ARFIDpicky eating+6 | — | 34m 23s | |
| 11/14/25 | ![]() Between Bites with Jillian Lampert: Understanding ARFID | Episode description: In this episode of Between Bites, Dr. Jillian Lampert explores Avoidant Restrictive Food Intake Disorder (ARFID)—an eating disorder characterized by limited food intake in terms of total volume, variety, or both. Unlike other eating disorders, ARFID isn't driven by concerns about weight or body image. Jillian breaks down the three main ways ARFID can present: lack of interest in eating, fear-based avoidance (often after choking or vomiting), and sensory sensitivities that make certain foods feel impossible to approach. She also discusses how restricted intake affects physical health, growth, and participation in everyday life—and how life transitions like starting school or moving away to college often bring these challenges to the surface. You'll hear how ARFID is treated, what makes that treatment different from other eating disorder care, and why specialized support can make recovery possible. We cover: How to tell if it’s ARFID and not just “picky eating” Why ARFID rarely resolves on its own What to expect from ARFID treatment About Dr. Jillian Lampert: Dr. Lampert (she/her), PhD, MPH, RD, LD, FAED, is the Vice President of Strategy and Public Affairs for The Emily Program. She completed her doctorate degree in Nutrition and Epidemiology and Master of Public Health degree in Public Health Nutrition at the University of Minnesota. She earned a Master of Science degree in Nutrition at the University of Vermont and completed her dietetic internship at the University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinics. She has an expansive range of policy, clinical, research, education, teaching, and program development experience in the area of eating disorders. Learn more about The Emily Program online or by calling 1-888-364-5977. Have a topic on your mind? We want Between Bites to speak to what matters most to you. If there’s a topic you’d like us to cover in a future episode, let us know! Your questions and ideas help shape the conversation. Email podcast@emilyprogram.com or send us a message on social. About the podcast: Peace Meal is a podcast hosted by The Emily Program that covers topics related to eating disorders, body image, and how society may influence our thinking. Between Bites is a Peace Meal series of short, focused episodes hosted by Dr. Jillian Lampert and designed to offer quick insights and meaningful support for eating disorder recovery. You can find Peace Meal on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube Music. You can also watch the podcast on YouTube. If you enjoy our show, please rate, review, subscribe, and tell your friends! Are you interested in being a guest on Peace Meal? Email podcast@emilyprogram.com for more information. | — | ||||||
| 10/31/25 | ![]() Episode 99: What Parents Need to Know About Long-Term Recovery with John & Kathy | **Content warning: This episode includes discussion of suicide. Please use your discretion when listening and connect with your support system as needed. If you're experiencing suicidal thoughts, help is available. Text or call 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Episode description: When their daughter Grace developed an eating disorder, John and Kathy experienced the heartbreak and confusion familiar to many parents. In this episode of Peace Meal, they speak with raw honesty about the helplessness of those early years, the shock of seeing Grace’s personality shift under the illness, and the mix of fear and relief that came with entrusting her to treatment. When Grace turned 18, she left treatment, and John and Kathy lost the ability to make decisions for her care. She struggled through a college relapse that felt devastating at the time. John and Kathy talk about learning to support Grace through those years—finding community with parents who truly understood, separating their daughter from the illness even when it felt impossible, and accepting that recovery had to be something Grace wanted for herself. John and Kathy share their story because they remember desperately needing to hear from parents further along. Grace eventually chose recovery for herself, and their family reached a place that once felt impossible. Their hope in speaking publicly is that other families navigating the same fears will know that recovery remains possible. We cover: Why finding community with other parents matters How eating disorders can temporarily change behavior and personality The complexity of supporting an adult child through treatment Why brain healing continues long after weight restoration Why setbacks during recovery don't mean failure In John and Kathy's words: On the isolation families can face: "One of the biggest benefits was to have a community of people that understood what we were going through. Even though we have good friends and family that supported us, I don't think they really understood the magnitude of what was going on. These [other parents in treatment] were parents that we felt—OK, they're not judging us. They're great parents. They have great kids. They just have this disease." On what recovery has meant for their family: "We've had a lot of joy around dining room tables for years, gone for years…having [Grace] attend a meal was like walking on eggshells. And it took a wonderful holiday or a family event and turned it into kind of a stressful event. Not, not that she did it, but the illness did. You have to really separate those two things because they're two very different things. And now for at least the last two or three years, family gatherings are truly what they should be. They're family gatherings. And I don't even really think about it." On John rebuilding his relationship with Grace: "After so many years of this illness, I figured that the relationship that I had with her was going to be beyond damaged... Now she and I talk at least once or twice a week. She calls me for counsel. She calls to say hello. And to be perfectly honest with you, it’s really the reason that we reached out to share the story…and I want parents to have hope that that can be their story too." For families seeking support: Explore our Resources for Families or call The Emily Program at 1-888-364-5977. About the podcast: Peace Meal is a podcast hosted by The Emily Program that covers topics related to eating disorders, body image, and how society may influence our thinking. You can find Peace Meal on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube Music. If you enjoy our show, please rate, review, subscribe, and tell your friends! Are you interested in being a guest on Peace Meal? Email podcast@emilyprogram.com for more information. | — | ||||||
| 10/17/25 | ![]() Between Bites with Jillian Lampert: Halloween | Episode description: Halloween kicks off months of food-focused holidays, and for people with eating disorders, the candy-centered celebration can create significant stress. In this Between Bites episode, Dr. Jillian Lampert discusses how to approach Halloween, whether you're supporting the kids in your life or navigating your own recovery. She explains why limiting kids' access to candy can intensify their desire for it, offers specific ways to plan for a challenging day, and suggests treating Halloween as practice for the upcoming holiday season—with an emphasis on open communication and asking for the support you need. We cover: Why forbidding Halloween candy often backfires (for kids and adults) Why sharing your Halloween plan with others can help (and what to tell them) How to make the holiday season different this year About Dr. Jillian Lampert: Dr. Lampert (she/her), PhD, MPH, RD, LD, FAED, is the Vice President of Strategy and Public Affairs for The Emily Program. She completed her doctorate degree in Nutrition and Epidemiology and Master of Public Health degree in Public Health Nutrition at the University of Minnesota. She earned a Master of Science degree in Nutrition at the University of Vermont and completed her dietetic internship at the University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinics. She has an expansive range of policy, clinical, research, education, teaching, and program development experience in the area of eating disorders. Learn more about The Emily Program online or by calling 1-888-364-5977. Have a topic on your mind? We want Between Bites to speak to what matters most to you. If there’s a topic you’d like us to cover in a future episode, let us know! Your questions and ideas help shape the conversation. Email podcast@emilyprogram.com or send us a message on social. About the podcast: Peace Meal is a podcast hosted by The Emily Program that covers topics related to eating disorders, body image, and how society may influence our thinking. Between Bites is a Peace Meal series of short, focused episodes hosted by Dr. Jillian Lampert and designed to offer quick insights and meaningful support for eating disorder recovery. You can find Peace Meal on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube Music. You can also watch the podcast on YouTube. If you enjoy our show, please rate, review, subscribe, and tell your friends! Are you interested in being a guest on Peace Meal? Email podcast@emilyprogram.com for more information. | — | ||||||
| 9/26/25 | ![]() Episode 98: Getting My Spark Back in Recovery with Abby Kurszewski | Episode description: In this episode of Peace Meal, Abby Kurszewski reflects on how years of weight-related comments from family and doctors shaped her relationship with food and body image. She explains that these experiences—along with a ninth-grade calorie-tracking assignment—were among the factors that fueled disordered eating during her teenage years. Abby recalls the painful disconnect of being praised for weight loss while suffering inside. She also speaks candidly about weight bias in healthcare, where providers dismissed her concerns because she lived in a larger body—barriers that delayed access to the care she needed. In 2022, Abby entered The Emily Program’s intensive day treatment and finally felt seen. With support from her treatment team and her dad—her “rock” throughout recovery—Abby began to reclaim herself: “It gave me part of my spark back.” About Abby: Abby Kurszewski is a mental health advocate and clinical mental health graduate student from Wisconsin. If given the opportunity, she won’t hesitate to show you pictures of her senior chihuahua, Hugh, and talk your ear off about Taylor Swift. As an advocate, Abby is passionate about sharing her story of being in recovery from mental health issues, including OCD, an eating disorder, complex trauma, depression, and anxiety. When she’s not in class, studying, or working, you can probably find her watching reality TV (most likely Survivor or RuPaul’s Drag Race), trying out local coffee shops, or at the barricade to see her favorite band. We cover: How OCD and depression can intersect with eating disorder treatment Why celebrating weight loss can be harmful (even when well-intended) How stereotypes about eating disorders can create barriers to care The importance of finding weight-neutral healthcare providers How loved ones can help enforce recovery boundaries The critical need for eating disorder care in rural and underserved areas What it means to reclaim joy with food (including Tater Tot poutine at a Taylor Swift concert) In her words: On the confusion of being praised while unwell: "I knew I was struggling with depression, especially, and anxiety. So I knew people were trying to be helpful when they were complimenting me and saying things like 'you look so good’...But it just reinforced the eating disorder when I was already mentally unwell." On the power of comprehensive treatment: "All sides were great—the medical aspect, the therapeutic support, the dietitians…The meal support and all that, it was so helpful and so beneficial. Quite honestly, that treatment program told me, 'Hey, maybe you don't have to live your life hating yourself." On her dad’s unwavering support: "Throughout my entire recovery journey, by far my biggest support has been my dad... He has always had this mentality of, 'I'm here to support you with whatever you need.' And he's not afraid to own up to mistakes or if he says the wrong thing... He just wants [my sister and me] to be happy and healthy." On why recovery is possible for everyone: "In the same way that eating disorders don't discriminate, recovery doesn't discriminate either... Respectfully, you're not the exception. It is possible." Learn more about The Emily Program online or by calling 1-888-364-5977. About the podcast: Peace Meal is a podcast hosted by The Emily Program that covers topics related to eating disorders, body image, and how society may influence our thinking. You can find Peace Meal on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube Music. If you enjoy our show, please rate, review, subscribe, and tell your friends! Are you interested in being a guest on Peace Meal? Email podcast@emilyprogram.com for more information. | — | ||||||
| 9/19/25 | ![]() Between Bites with Jillian Lampert: Weight Stigma in Healthcare | Episode description: In this episode of Between Bites, Dr. Jillian Lampert explores the topic of weight stigma and its harmful effects on health and healthcare. She defines weight stigma as judgment or discrimination based on body size, shape, or appearance—and explains how it shows up in everyday life, from jokes in the media to treatment in the doctor’s office. Dr. Lampert highlights how weight stigma in healthcare can lead to serious consequences, including patients avoiding care altogether. She underscores the importance of separating weight from health and focusing on holistic well-being instead. With Weight Stigma Awareness Week approaching, she shares opportunities to learn more, take action, and create change through kindness, education, and advocacy. About Dr. Jillian Lampert: Dr. Lampert (she/her), PhD, MPH, RD, LD, FAED, is the Vice President of Strategy and Public Affairs for The Emily Program. She completed her doctorate degree in Nutrition and Epidemiology and Master of Public Health degree in Public Health Nutrition at the University of Minnesota. She earned a Master of Science degree in Nutrition at the University of Vermont and completed her dietetic internship at the University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinics. She has an expansive range of policy, clinical, research, education, teaching, and program development experience in the area of eating disorders. We cover: What weight stigma is and how it shows up in our society Why weight stigma is especially harmful in healthcare settings How weight stigma prevents people from receiving needed care The importance of separating weight from health Small and large ways we can address and reduce weight stigma Resources and opportunities available during Weight Stigma Awareness Week Learn more about The Emily Program online or by calling 1-888-364-5977. Have a topic on your mind? We want Between Bites to speak to what matters most to you. If there’s a topic you’d like us to cover in a future episode, let us know! Your questions and ideas help shape the conversation. Email podcast@emilyprogram.com or send us a message on social. About the podcast: Peace Meal is a podcast hosted by The Emily Program that covers topics related to eating disorders, body image, and how society may influence our thinking. Between Bites is a Peace Meal series of short, focused episodes hosted by Dr. Jillian Lampert and designed to offer quick insights and meaningful support for eating disorder recovery. You can find Peace Meal on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube Music. You can also watch the podcast on YouTube. If you enjoy our show, please rate, review, subscribe, and tell your friends! Are you interested in being a guest on Peace Meal? Email podcast@emilyprogram.com for more information. | — | ||||||
| 8/29/25 | ![]() Episode 97: Breaking Isolation and Stigma in Recovery with Jami Schadler | Episode description: In this episode of Peace Meal, we hear from Jami Schadler, a mom of four and passionate eating disorder advocate from Dyersville, Iowa. Jami opens up about her 25-year struggle with an eating disorder, how unresolved childhood trauma played a role, and the turning point that sparked her recovery. Now in recovery, Jami is dedicated to helping others find hope and healing. She shares how her advocacy began with a single social media post and grew into something much larger: facilitating a support group with NAMI Dubuque, working as an Ambassador with the Eating Disorders Coalition, and even spearheading a proclamation to recognize National Eating Disorders Awareness Week in her community. Throughout the conversation, Jami emphasizes the importance of education, connection, and advocacy in breaking down stigma. She offers heartfelt advice to families, encouragement for those who feel isolated, and reflections on what recovery has brought to her life and her children’s lives. We cover: Jami’s journey from unresolved trauma to recovery Why eating disorders thrive in isolation—and how to break free from it The role of grace, patience, and support in healing Misconceptions about who can develop an eating disorder Jami’s advocacy work in Iowa and beyond Her hopes for others navigating recovery today In her words: On the turning point in recovery: “I was tired of continuously relying on that toxic friend, which was my eating disorder… This time was different because I was a mother of four kids and they needed me.” On stigma: “I’ve been told before through my journey, 'Why can’t you just eat?' I wish it was that easy.” On advocacy: “I’ll continue to advocate for eating disorder awareness because when I was going through my eating disorder, my voice hadn’t been heard yet. And those who struggle with an eating disorder are still waiting for their voice to be heard.” On advice for those struggling: “Don’t isolate… recovery is possible. It’s hard work and I’m a testimony of that.” Learn more about The Emily Program online or by calling 1-888-364-5977. About the podcast: Peace Meal is a podcast hosted by The Emily Program that covers topics related to eating disorders, body image, and how society may influence our thinking. You can find Peace Meal on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube Music. If you enjoy our show, please rate, review, subscribe, and tell your friends! Are you interested in being a guest on Peace Meal? Email podcast@emilyprogram.com for more information. | — | ||||||
| 8/25/25 | ![]() Between Bites with Jillian Lampert: School and ED Treatment | Introducing Between Bites: The Peace Meal podcast is launching Between Bites, a new series of short, focused episodes hosted by Dr. Jillian Lampert. Designed to offer quick insights and meaningful support for eating disorder recovery, these bite-sized conversations will explore practical topics in a more accessible format. Episode description: In this inaugural episode of Between Bites, Dr. Jillian Lampert explores the common concern of how eating disorder treatment fits into school life. She highlights that recovery and academics are not mutually exclusive, and delaying care for school can have lasting consequences. The episode addresses questions parents and students often ask—from middle school through college—about balancing coursework, treatment schedules, and future goals. Dr. Lampert emphasizes that prioritizing health is the best way to ensure long-term academic success and a fulfilling recovery journey. About Dr. Jillian Lampert: Dr. Lampert (she/her) is the Vice President of Strategy and Public Affairs for The Emily Program. She completed her doctorate degree in Nutrition and Epidemiology and Master of Public Health degree in Public Health Nutrition at the University of Minnesota. She earned a Master of Science degree in Nutrition at the University of Vermont and completed her dietetic internship at the University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinics. She has an expansive range of policy, clinical, research, education, teaching, and program development experience in the area of eating disorders. We cover: Why families often wonder how eating disorder treatment will affect school How eating disorder recovery and academic progress can happen at the same time What parents and students should consider when balancing treatment with school demands Common concerns for middle school, high school, and college students in treatment The importance of prioritizing health and recovery over delaying care for school How The Emily Program supports students in continuing education while receiving treatment Learn more about The Emily Program online or by calling 1-888-364-5977. Have a topic on your mind? We want Between Bites to speak to what matters most to you. If there’s a topic you’d like us to cover in a future episode, let us know! Your questions and ideas help shape the conversation. Email podcast@emilyprogram.com or send us a message on social. About the podcast: Peace Meal is a podcast hosted by The Emily Program that covers topics related to eating disorders, body image, and how society may influence our thinking. You can find Peace Meal on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube Music. You can also watch the podcast on YouTube. If you enjoy our show, please rate, review, subscribe, and tell your friends! Are you interested in being a guest on Peace Meal? Email podcast@emilyprogram.com for more information. | — | ||||||
| 7/25/25 | ![]() Episode 96: Navigating the “Middle Place” of Recovery with Mallary Tenore Tarpley | Episode description: In this episode of Peace Meal, we sit down with Mallary Tenore Tarpley, journalist, professor, and author of the forthcoming book Slip. Mallary opens up about her personal journey with anorexia, her path to treatment, and her concept of the “middle place” in recovery—a space between acute illness and full recovery that is rarely discussed but widely experienced. Mallary shares how her early experiences with grief, media influences, and cultural messages about food and bodies contributed to the development of her eating disorder. She also talks about the power of persistence, small steps toward healing, and the importance of support and community along the recovery journey. About Mallary: Mallary Tenore Tarpley is a journalism and writing professor at the University of Texas at Austin's Moody College of Communications and McCombs School of Business. Her work has appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, and other publications. She graduated from Providence College and has an MFA in nonfiction writing from Goucher College. Mallary lives outside of Austin, TX, with her husband and two children. We cover: How Mallary’s mother’s death and suppressed grief contributed to the onset of her eating disorder Her treatment experiences, including a 17-month stay in residential care The concept of the “middle place” and why she wants to destigmatize slips in recovery The five pillars of recovery that guided her healing journey Why persistence, small victories, and community support are essential How Slip blends personal narrative with research and the voices of others In Mallary’s words: On why she titled her book Slip: “Sometimes we think that slips equal failure. And that is the reason I titled the book Slip... I want to destigmatize slips in the recovery process and recognize that slips can be opportunities for growth rather than grounds for failure.” On the “middle place” in recovery: “For a long time I thought that I was the only one in this space, because I never heard anyone else talk about it... when I began to interview people for the book, I realized that this space is quite populous, and yet it's not talked about very often.” On persistence and progress: “Sometimes the idea of trying to attain full recovery can feel a bit daunting and insurmountable... I like to think a lot about ‘more recovery.’ Maybe that's a half [of] a percent one day, maybe it's ten percent another day. Those very tiny steps can accumulate over time.” Learn more about The Emily Program online or by calling 1-888-364-5977. Mallary’s book, Slip, comes out on August 5, but you can preorder it on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, or at your local bookstore today. You can connect with Mallary, learn more about her, and follow her newsletter on her website, mallarytenoretarpley.com. You can also follow her on Instagram (@mallarytenoretarpley) and LinkedIn. - About the podcast: Peace Meal is a podcast hosted by The Emily Program that covers topics related to eating disorders, body image, and how society may influence our thinking. You can find Peace Meal on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube Music. If you enjoy our show, please rate, review, subscribe, and tell your friends! Are you interested in being a guest on Peace Meal? Email podcast@emilyprogram.com for more information. | — | ||||||
| 7/11/25 | ![]() Episode 95: What We Wish You Knew About Recovery with Jenny Beck & Sarah Bergen | Episode description: In this episode of Peace Meal, we hear from Jenny Beck and Sarah Bergen, two passionate leaders at The Emily Program’s Ohio treatment centers. Jenny, the Site Director, and Sarah, the Regional Medical Director, offer personal and professional insight into eating disorder recovery—what they love about their work, what makes it challenging, and what they wish more people knew about treatment. Reflecting on the rewarding but often difficult journey of supporting people with eating disorders, while drawing from years of experience—and in Sarah’s case, a personal history with anorexia—they discuss: What happens behind the scenes in treatment The misconceptions they frequently encounter The deep hope they hold for their clients Together, they emphasize that while recovery is never easy, it is always worth it. About Jenny and Sarah: Jenny Beck, LPCC-S, is the Site Director of The Emily Program’s Residential and Outpatient Treatment Centers in Columbus, Ohio. As Site Director, Jenny oversees all clinical services provided for children, adolescents, and adults at the outpatient, intensive outpatient, partial hospitalization, and residential levels of care. Jenny has worked as a therapist since 2006 and has specialized in eating disorder care since 2014. A high point in Jenny’s professional journey was overseeing the launch of the Columbus Residential treatment center in January 2022. Sarah Bergen, RN, MS, PMHNP-BC, is the Regional Medical Director of The Emily Program’s Ohio locations, working closely with the Site Director, Senior Regional Director, and medical lead to ensure the best quality care for clients, and provide support to the amazing medical and psychiatry staff. Sarah has been with The Emily Program since 2016, first as the psychiatric provider in Spokane, Washington, covering partial hospitalization (PHP), intensive outpatient (IOP), and outpatient programming before she moved back home to Ohio. Sarah was in Columbus as The Emily Program opened its second Ohio location in 2020. She worked with clients in residential care for two years before her transition to Medical Director. We cover: How Jenny and Sarah each found their way into eating disorder care The most rewarding and the most difficult parts of their work Common barriers to seeking treatment and how to overcome them Why treatment can feel worse before it feels better—and why that’s okay What they want families, friends, and communities to understand about eating disorders Hopes for the future of eating disorder treatment and awareness in Ohio and beyond In their words: Jenny on what makes recovery worth it: “It probably will feel worse before it feels better. But please don’t give up during the worst… If you give up during the worst, you don’t get the better.” Jenny on the invisible nature of eating disorder treatment: “People can't see the toll it takes to get well. It's easy to assume it's not that hard. It’s so hard.” Sarah on barriers to care: “Eating disorders do such a good job telling folks that they are not ‘ill enough.’” Jenny on holding hope: “There’s always a reason to say no... But what if it does [work]?... The future is a beautiful thing, terrifying and beautiful... It equally holds the possibility of goodness as it does hard things.” Learn more about The Emily Program online or by calling 1-888-364-5977. - About the podcast: Peace Meal is a podcast hosted by The Emily Program that covers topics related to eating disorders, body image, and how society may influence our thinking. You can find Peace Meal on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube Music. If you enjoy our show, please rate, review, subscribe, and tell your friends! Are you interested in being a guest on Peace Meal? Email podcast@emilyprogram.com for more information. | — | ||||||
| 6/24/25 | ![]() Episode 94: Moving Beyond Pseudo-Recovery with Darby Kellogg | Episode description: In this episode of Peace Meal, we hear from Darby Kellogg, a former collegiate runner who spent years in pseudo-recovery after receiving treatment for anorexia. Darby reflects on how her eating disorder took root in the culture of competitive running, where an intense focus on performance, discipline, and “clean eating” often normalized or hid her disordered behaviors. When medical concerns forced her to stop training and enter inpatient care, she felt like she was losing the identity she had built around her sport. In the years that followed, Darby felt stuck in what she now recognizes as pseudo-recovery: doing what “looked right” externally while still following disordered rules internally. It’s an experience she says is more common than people realize, but rarely talked about. In this conversation, Darby shares how she came to recognize that surface-level recovery wasn’t enough, and what helped her begin the deeper, lasting work of true healing. About Darby: Darby Kellogg lives in Michigan and is on a mission to help others in eating disorder recovery. Darby has been in recovery from anorexia for six years and is currently in PA school. A former collegiate runner, she has firsthand experience navigating eating disorder treatment at multiple levels of care. Now, she’s especially passionate about challenging misconceptions around recovery, including giving voice to the role of neuro-rewiring and the process of unlearning ingrained beliefs. We cover: The role of sport and perfectionism in Darby’s eating disorder experience Darby’s early eating disorder warning signs What it was like to lose her sport and identity as an athlete Why pseudo-recovery can keep someone stuck How eating disorders can get in the way of showing up fully in relationships How recovery has reshaped Darby’s relationship with movement and her future in medicine In Darby’s words: On her experience with pseudo-recovery: “I was eating the food I was supposed to. I was resting my body…I was doing just enough to make my providers and parents happy, but also serve the eating disorder. I was doing these things on paper, but none of the mental processes were changing. I was still looking to the eating disorder for guidance. I wasn’t pushing against those thought patterns that the eating disorder is rooted in.” On relationships and recovery: “Recovery is about relationships...And if you prioritize your relationships, you will realize that the eating disorder is not in your best interest. You can't have these relationships if you want to keep your eating disorder. You have to, in a sense, choose one.” On choosing recovery: “The phrase that I have always come back to when I have been struggling is ‘choose your hard.’ It's going to be hard no matter what you do. You have to accept that…it's really extremely difficult to recover from an eating disorder. But it's also extremely hard to never recover and not see all the beautiful things on the other side of it. You get to choose which path you want to take and which hard you want to do. Instead of doing the ‘safe scary’ things, do the ‘scary scary’ things.” On reclaiming her relationship with movement: “I've thought of it more now as building my body rather than tearing it down. I’m training more for functional strength now. Am I gonna be able to hold my grandkids when I’m 80? I'm training for health and longevity. I'm not training to beat any records.” Learn more about The Emily Program online or by calling 1-888-364-5977. - About the podcast: Peace Meal is a podcast hosted by The Emily Program that covers topics related to eating disorders, body image, and how society may influence our thinking. You can find Peace Meal on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube Music. If you enjoy our show, please rate, review, subscribe, and tell your friends! Are you interested in being a guest on Peace Meal? Email podcast@emilyprogram.com for more information. | — | ||||||
| 5/30/25 | ![]() Episode 93: Recovering as a Transmasculine Person with Dev Seacrest | Episode description: In this episode, Dr. Dev Seacrest returns to Peace Meal to reflect on how his evolving understanding of gender, body image, and disability has shaped his recovery from both anorexia and Avoidant/Restrictive Food Intake Disorder (ARFID). Since first joining us in 2020, Dev has gained deeper clarity on how gender dysphoria influenced his relationship with food and body image. He talks about embracing fatness as a trans man, finding support in a men’s body image group, and receiving a revised diagnosis that helped explain his chronic pain and changing mobility needs. Through these experiences, Dev shares what it means to recover on his own terms—honoring gender identity, disability, and fat embodiment, and building a more peaceful relationship with his body along the way. About Dev: Dr. Dev Seacrest (he/him) is a transmasculine professor who uses his lived experience to identify areas for growth among individuals and communities. He has found that advocating for people with eating disorders, disabilities, chronic illness, and/or who are in larger bodies has been effective and rewarding. It has also helped him to better understand and accept himself as a member of all of these groups. We cover: How gender dysphoria and weight stigma shaped Dev’s eating disorder How evolving language helped him make sense of his body and identity The relief and clarity of receiving accurate chronic illness diagnoses How chronic illness complicates food access, hunger cues, and body trust What affirming, weight-neutral, and trauma-informed care can look like How advocacy has helped Dev find greater self-acceptance and community In Dev's words: On embracing his identity: “One thing that was really hard for me since the beginning was the idea of being a fat woman. And there's nothing wrong with being a fat woman, but I finally realized that the part that I was afraid of wasn't the fat part; it was the woman part. Being a fat man is something that I can accept and embrace…I needed to have the gender concept down before I could start adding to it.” On rejecting healthism and reclaiming rest: “I’ve come a long way [with] healthism…I don’t have to earn respect or earn food or earn rest. Fat people deserve rest, too.” On the importance of affirming, compassionate care: “One of the things that really helped was being diagnosed and having doctors say, ‘I see that you're in pain,’ ‘I see that you're having issues’—so many people don't get that. It’s so important to have doctors and providers who believe you." On defining his body on his own terms: “My body is a man's body. And is that because of various surgeries or anything like that, or the clothes that I wear? No, it's because it's my body, so it's a man's body.” Learn more about The Emily Program online or by calling 1-888-364-5977. – About the podcast: Peace Meal is a podcast hosted by The Emily Program that covers topics related to eating disorders, body image, and how society may influence our thinking. You can find Peace Meal on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube Music. If you enjoy our show, please rate, review, subscribe, and tell your friends! Are you interested in being a guest on Peace Meal? Email podcast@emilyprogram.com for more information. | — | ||||||
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