When Did Politics Become More Powerful Than Faith?

When Did Politics Become More Powerful Than Faith?

From Pivot Podcast by Faith+Lead

March 5, 2026 · 32 min · Season 5 · Episode 167

About this episode

Dr. Ryan Burge discusses the entanglement of political and faith identities in American life and its impact on church attendance.

What happens when political identity becomes stronger than faith identity? Dr. Ryan Burge is a data scientist, professor, and pastor who watched his own 150-year-old congregation close its doors in 2024. In part one of this two-part conversation, Ryan brings the data to bear on one of the most urgent questions facing church leaders today: how faith and political identity have become so entangled in American life that millions of people now choose — or abandon — their church based on politics rather than theology. Ryan walks Dwight and Alicia through what the numbers actually show about church decline, the rise of never-attending evangelicals, the disappearance of politically diverse congregations, and why churches that once held Republicans and Democrats side by side may be the most important institution vanishing from American life. If your congregation feels more politically sorted than it used to, this episode offers both an honest diagnosis and a vision for what the church can still be on the other side of polarization.

People in this episode

Host: Faith+Lead

Guest: Dr. Ryan Burge

Topics covered

  • political identity
  • faith identity
  • church decline
  • evangelicals
  • polarization
  • congregational diversity

Keywords

  • politics
  • faith
  • church
  • evangelicals
  • congregation
  • identity
  • polarization
  • data
  • decline

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Faith+Lead, American life

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