Episode 54: The Work Is Never Done - And That's the Point

Episode 54: The Work Is Never Done - And That's the Point

From Real Health Talk by Zak & Jordan

May 5, 2026 · 38 min

About this episode

Jordan and Zak discuss their evolution in health practices, emphasizing intuition and the journey of personal growth.

Episode Description Jordan and Zak trace their journeys from rigid, system-bound practitioners to where they are now - trusting their intuition, sitting with uncertainty, and actually enjoying the process. They get into what it really means to work with someone (and be someone) who's still on the path, why curiosity is the most underrated clinical tool, and why the best coaches are the ones who haven't got it all figured out. 💫 Stay Connected ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Work with Zak⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Work with Jordan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join Jordan’s Skool community⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Join Zak's community⁠ Instagram: Jordan : ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@jordan_davey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Zak : ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@coachzakgoold⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Timestamps 0:00 — Intro: 27 degrees, first of May, surf coast, zero structure 1:50 — From PT and psych to here — how both their practices evolved 4:30 — What happens when your clients don't get better and you run out of answers 7:20 — Steph Curry misses more shots than anyone — failure as the craft 10:00 — The blind spot: nailing protocols but forgetting to tell people to go outside 12:30 — Why doctors protect their degrees even when the system fails people 15:00 — The functional health trap — still a system, just a…

People in this episode

Hosts: Jordan, Zak

Topics covered

  • personal growth
  • coaching
  • intuition
  • uncertainty
  • health practices

Keywords

  • health
  • fitness
  • coaching
  • intuition
  • personal growth
  • uncertainty
  • Tao Te Ching

Mentioned in this episode

Books & works: Tao Te Ching

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