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BONUS: A Conversation with Dr. John Dickson
Jun 23, 2026
1h 27m 14s
40: MIC DROP Moments from Season 3 | Pre-holiday musings | Key Systems for any church | Personal retreat ideas
Dec 10, 2025
49m 37s
39: From EVENTS to ENVIRONMENTS | Christmas Confabulation | Strategically Using Meetings | Auld Lang Syne...15 end of year questions
Dec 3, 2025
1h 06m 33s
38: From HERO PASTOR to HEALTHY CHURCH | Testing our Telekinesis | Programming Buildouts at Grace | Staff Values/Performance Matrix
Nov 26, 2025
54m 19s
37: From SEEKER to SENDER | Pilgrim’s Progress | Exploring Development Roles | The Now to Next prayer tool
Nov 19, 2025
1h 01m 26s
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 6/23/26 | ![]() BONUS: A Conversation with Dr. John Dickson | In this bonus episode, we sit down with Dr John Dickson, host of the podcast "Undeceptions," to talk about the state of the church in America and evangelism today. We also take some live Q&A with a studio audience. | 1h 27m 14s | ||||||
| 12/10/25 | ![]() 40: MIC DROP Moments from Season 3 | Pre-holiday musings | Key Systems for any church | Personal retreat ideas✨ | leadershipchurch systems+3 | Danielle | — | — | mic drop momentsleadership practices+3 | — | 49m 37s | |
| 12/3/25 | ![]() 39: From EVENTS to ENVIRONMENTS | Christmas Confabulation | Strategically Using Meetings | Auld Lang Syne...15 end of year questions | In this episode, we explore how churches can shift from event-driven ministry to environments where real discipleship happens. Hear from Shane Stacey, Andrew Silbert, and Sarah Burtt as they unpack practical ways to design worship spaces, mid-size trainings, and small groups that actually produce transformation. | 1h 06m 33s | ||||||
| 11/26/25 | ![]() 38: From HERO PASTOR to HEALTHY CHURCH | Testing our Telekinesis | Programming Buildouts at Grace | Staff Values/Performance Matrix | If you’re longing for a healthier way to lead your church, this episode will encourage you. Dave Rhodes calls leaders to become hero-makers, and Pastor Jamaal Williams shows how everyday disciples can own real ministry in their own spaces. It’s practical, honest, and full of next steps you can use this week. | 54m 19s | ||||||
| 11/19/25 | ![]() 37: From SEEKER to SENDER | Pilgrim’s Progress | Exploring Development Roles | The Now to Next prayer tool | What if your church became known less for who it gathers and more for who it sends? This week’s Reinventing Church episode unpacks Dave Rhodes' challenge to move from seeker to sender, rethinking what we celebrate, track, and multiply. Then Derek talks with Chris Bellinger about how churches can train and release everyday missionaries right where they are. Plus, a behind-the-scenes look at Grace’s new development roles and a practical “Now to Next” prayer tool for friendship and discipleship. | 1h 01m 26s | ||||||
| 11/12/25 | ![]() 36: From GROWTH to DEPTH | Lessons from the eurythmics | Mindmapping Job Descriptions | A Team Development Tool. | In this episode, Derek and Danielle, along with Pastor Sarah Burtt and the Clarity House team, tackle the shift from growth to depth. They unpack how to design discipleship environments that form people, not just fill rooms, share a behind-the-scenes look at mind-mapping job descriptions, and introduce four simple practices any leader can use to develop people, not just delegate tasks. Perfect for pastors and church leaders ready to rethink what “success” looks like in their ministry. | 1h 02m 06s | ||||||
| 11/5/25 | ![]() 35: From CUSTOMER SERVICE to COACHING | Two truths and a truth | Brainstorm Buddies | Tool: Turning Complaints into Clarity | In this episode of Reinventing Church, Derek Sanford talks with Stephen Hay about how churches can shift from customer service to coaching, from keeping people happy to helping them grow. Learn how to spot consumer Christianity, create feedback-rich coaching cultures, and lead with courage instead of comfort. Plus, behind-the-scenes updates on Grace’s Awake the Lake vision and a new Tips & Tools on turning complaints into clarity. | 1h 06m 58s | ||||||
| 10/29/25 | ![]() Ep 34: From ASSIMILATION to ACTIVATION with Scott Michel | Instead of plugging people into roles, call them into purpose. | 1h 02m 21s | ||||||
| 10/22/25 | ![]() 33: From ATTENDANCE to APPRENTICESHIP | This vs That | On-Staff Mentorship | And Taking on the Keyboard Warriors | From Northern Lights and “read-minds-vs-fly” debates to deep reflections on what truly counts in ministry, Derek and Danielle explore how churches can move from attendance to apprenticeship. Dave Rhodes redefines success, and guest Jeremy Adelman shows how an old Minneapolis church found new life by focusing on training disciples who multiply. Perfect for church leaders ready to measure growth by transformation not turnout. | 57m 50s | ||||||
| 10/15/25 | ![]() 32: From TEACHING to TRAINING | Falling into Autumn | This week at Grace | And how to have difficult conversations - yay! | Most churches are great at teaching but weak at training. In Episode 32 of Reinventing Church, Derek and Danielle kick off with fall vibes in Erie, then dive into Dave Rhodes on building training centers. Derek sits down with Pastor Mark Canada of Parkway Bible to talk about shifting from passive content delivery to active, experiential discipleship. Expect practical tools, a fourth grader’s gospel story, and a conflict tip you can use today. | 58m 28s | ||||||
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| 10/8/25 | ![]() 31: From STAFF DRIVEN to LEADER MULTIPLYING | Have we gone too far? | Tapping the Untapped | 10 Recruitment Barriers | Is your church’s leadership pipeline multiplying or just maintaining? In this episode of Reinventing Church, Derek and Danielle sit down with Brent Minter, Lead Pastor of Keystone Church, to talk about making the critical shift from staff-driven ministry to leader-multiplying culture. | 56m 01s | ||||||
| 10/1/25 | ![]() 30: From COMPLEXITY to CLARITY | Must see TV| It’s Christmas time in the city | Livin on a prayer | Is your church’s discipleship pathway clear or just crowded? In this episode, Derek and Danielle talk with Phil EuBank of Menlo Church about moving from ministry complexity to clarity. Discover how to simplify your discipleship strategy, build shared rhythms, and guide people with a multiplication map instead of a ministry menu. | 1h 00m 15s | ||||||
| 9/24/25 | ![]() 29:From SUNDAY to EVERYDAY | the most accurate personality test of all, becoming Influencers, and empowering team members with a 1:3:1 Tool | Sunday is important, but it’s not the finish line. In this episode, Derek and Danielle talk with Trey Taylor, Lead Pastor of City Hope Church, about the critical shift churches must make—from Sunday services to everyday discipleship. Trey unpacks how his team is reframing vocation as ministry, equipping everyday missionaries, and training leaders through tools like Dust: A Disciple’s Journey. | 1h 04m 27s | ||||||
| 9/17/25 | ![]() 28: Season 3 Launch! | Cruel Summer | Shifting 11 Gears | Behind the curtain at Grace | Tips and Tools and we tango with The Terminator…but WE’LL be back. | In this kickoff to Season 3, Derek and Danielle set the stage for an exciting new chapter of Reinventing Church. They revisit the five original mind-shifting insights that sparked the whole podcast. They preview this season's theme of 11 pivotal shifts every church must make. This episode also introduces a brand-new Ministry Tools and Tips segment. Derek explores the theological boundaries of AI, offering both cautions and practical guidelines for church leaders | 52m 01s | ||||||
| 6/30/25 | ![]() 27: From Vision to Action: Crafting Our Future | This special audio-only bonus episode of 'Reinventing Church' features Danielle, Derek, and Aaron discussing the critical components of their church's vision frame for the staff and broader community. They delve into the mission, values, strategy, and measures that guide their ministry, all aimed at aligning with their 'Awake the Lake' 10-year vision. The episode outlines the mission of following Jesus and living out God's story every day, the core values that drive their decisions, the four-part strategy for discipleship, and the specific measures used to gauge success. The speakers emphasize the importance of each staff member and churchgoer understanding and embodying these ideas to achieve their vision of mobilizing 30,000 people by 2035 to bring gospel influence into everyday life.00:00 Introduction and Purpose of the Episode00:55 Vision Frame Overview05:05 Mission: What Are We Doing?07:47 Values: Why Are We Doing It This Way?10:57 Strategy: How Are We Doing It?13:19 Measures: When Are We Successful?15:11 Vision Proper: Where Is God Taking Us?16:20 Conclusion and Final Thoughts | 18m 41s | ||||||
| 4/28/25 | ![]() 26: Season Finale! What have we learned so far in our transition to a missional model? | Televangelists | Lessons from a 40-Day digital fast | Holy Week Reflections | Derek and Danielle reflect on six lessons they've learned this season as they transition from a church growth model to a missional multiplication model. For full show notes, visit: https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch | 42m 05s | ||||||
| 4/21/25 | ![]() 25. A New Approach to Developing People | The Tape Ministry | A simple format for staff trainings | A Unique Approach to Baby Dedications | Beyond hopping people from program to program and calling it discipleship. How can the church actually devleop people into Christilikenss. Join this fascinating conversation with Diane Wright. For full show notes visit: https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch | 48m 55s | ||||||
| 4/14/25 | ![]() 24: How to make the shift from church programs to relational discipleship | Christian Woodstock | Defining a Multiplying Church | Considering a hot-off-the-presses Strategic Planning Tool | Dave Rhodes and Shane Stacey from Clarity House talk about how churches can unintentionally lead with programs and how to pivot to a relational disciple-making approach. For full show notes visit: https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch | 49m 58s | ||||||
| 4/7/25 | ![]() 23: Helping Churches Transition from Teaching Center to Training Center | 90’s “Contemporary” worship | Our Preaching Calendar Process | Roundtable Training Benefits | Dave Rhodes and Shane Stacey from Clarity House discuss the major shift happening in disciple-making churches to adopt an approach of training over teaching. For full show notes visit: https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch | 46m 55s | ||||||
| 3/31/25 | ![]() 22: Reimagining worship gatherings through a missional lens | How should we think about our worship liturgy if we have a room full of missionaries vs. a room full of consumers? A conversation with Andrew Silbert. For full show notes visit: https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch | 54m 34s | ||||||
| 3/24/25 | ![]() 21: Unleashing the Church Beyond Sunday | For full show notes visit: https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch | 1h 11m 08s | ||||||
| 3/17/25 | ![]() 20. Focusing a Big Church on Front Yard Missions, a Fixation on Choreography, Teaching Leadership vs. Training Leadership, and Leadership Meta-Metaphors | Focusing a Big Church on Front Yard Missions: an interview with Pastor Dan Nold. And how his role as a pastor and the focus of his church shifted through COVID.For full show notes visit: https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch | 1h 04m 10s | ||||||
| 3/10/25 | ![]() 19. Strategic Partnerships: Cooperation or Competition? Megachurch Merch, and a Theology of Life Experiences. | Cooperation instead of Competition among churches. An interview with Pastor Stephen explores the challenging dynamic of a big church and small church partnerships. For full show notes visit: https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch | 1h 00m 34s | ||||||
| 3/3/25 | ![]() 18. Mega-church vs. Big church, How to be an embedded influencer, Zany youth group games, and giving new life to old ideas. | Embedded Influencer: We interview the energetic Angus Beibel about his exploits, reminisce about crazy youth group games, parse the differences between mega-churches and big churches, and resurrect some old church documents. For full show notes visit: https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch | 56m 39s | ||||||
| 2/24/25 | ![]() 17. Hollywood dreams, reassuring the team through the messy middle, How to Be a Savvy Follower, and honoring volunteers | Savvy Follower: Pastor Sarah interviews Steve Reisenauer while Derek and Danielle explore the church and pop culture, leading through the messy middle of a vision, and honoring volunteer leaders. For full show notes visit: https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch | 50m 58s | ||||||
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