112. You Only Know Your Values When You're Willing to Lose Something: With Global Pharma Executive Mwana Lugogo

112. You Only Know Your Values When You're Willing to Lose Something: With Global Pharma Executive Mwana Lugogo

From Responsible Leaders - Healthy Cultures by Tobias Sturesson, Heart Management

April 15, 2026 · 1h 1m

About this episode

Tobias Sturesson interviews Mwana Lugogo about the challenges of aligning values with actions in leadership and organizational culture.

Tobias Sturesson sits down with Mwana Lugogo – veteran Chief Ethics and Compliance Officer at global pharmaceutical company Takeda – to explore the hidden gap between knowing the right thing to do and actually being able to do it. This first episode of the Responsible Leaders - Healthy Cultures marks a pivotal shift from responsibility and ethics as a compliance exercise to ethics as a leadership practice, grounded in culture, humility, and human behavior. You'll discover the critical difference between training and practice, and learn a practical model for building environments where people can act on their values – even under pressure. Make your commitment to responsible leadership and get equipped to lead with integrity and transform your culture on: ⁠https://www.healthycultures.co/⁠ In this episode, we explore: (00:00) Why good people in organizations make decisions they later regret (02:42) Finding common ground across cultures and regulatory contexts (08:23) Overcoming the health illusion and uncovering organizational blind spots (25:50) Why we treat a behavior problem like a knowledge problem (27:34) Building environments where courage is less necessary (28:23) Shifting…

People in this episode

Host: Tobias Sturesson

Guest: Mwana Lugogo

Topics covered

  • ethics in leadership
  • organizational culture
  • values and decision making
  • compliance and responsibility
  • courage in the workplace
  • global ambassador programs

Keywords

  • leadership
  • ethics
  • compliance
  • organizational culture
  • values
  • decision making
  • training
  • human behavior

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Takeda

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