So There I Was

This week’s episode was recorded live at King Mackerel’s Beach Tavern Bar & Grill in Moorehead City, NC, right after the historic Harrier Sundown Ceremony at Cherry Point. In Segment 1, call sign Ag—a Texas Aggie and former Harrier XO—takes you on an unforgettable journey crossing the Atlantic to Desert Storm. From a midnight “Casablanca” goodbye at Cherry Point to dangerous night tanking with KC‑10s, metal-to-metal probe contact, a thunderstorm with St. Elmo’s fire, and a tense close ID with an Israeli E‑2, Ag’s story is a masterclass in nerve, precision, and naval aviation under pressure.Segment 2 shifts to DC-style storytelling with Derek from dcartworks.net, the artist behind stunning 3D metal squadron patches, Harrier bottle openers, and custom whiskey glasses. He shares a heart-stopping Afghanistan emergency airdrop in the Korangal Valley—jumping over 16 bundles to fix a ramp/door issue, realizing he’s three feet from the edge with no tether, and facing Taliban fire below. Plus, we uncover how D.C. drove updated tactics and seeker-equipped bombs that prevent the guesswork Harrier pilots endured. Tune in—for service, art, and stories that will stop your heart.

A near mid-ground collision by Strecken and

Fig & RePete go over several aviation topics - including the F/A-18 Growler Mid Air collision in Mountain Home Idaho, last week.

Bonk, Top Gun, Marine MAWTS-1 and Test Pilot Stories kick off with him bobbing in the Pacific after less than 500 flight hours in total flight time! Actually, that’s just the warmup. This week on So There I Was, Fig and RePete sit down with Bonk, a former Test Pilot School graduate, Top Gun instructor, and MAWTS pilot whose career somehow became more insane every decade. One minute he’s failing eye exams. Consequently, he almost misses aviation entirely. The next minute he’s disconnecting A-4 flight controls in flight and wondering if this was really the best career choice. Then things get weird. Bonk talks about ending up in the water early in his career. Furthermore, he explains what happens when you suddenly discover the ocean is now your office. There are stories about VMFA-531, absurd amounts of flight time, and the strange reality of becoming “the old guy” while still doing incredibly dumb fighter pilot things. Wait, what? At one point, Bonk casually explains flying through an afterburner plume because he heard it. Heard it. Not saw it. Heard it. Naturally, that turns into a discussion about air combat maneuvering, test flying, and the tiny margin between “legendary story” and “aviation mishap report.” The episode also dives into: Top Gun and MAWTS culture Test Pilot School insanity Zero-G flights Engine testing Why Boards of Inquiry can ruin your week The origin of the callsign “Bonk” The strange process of translating fighter pilot language into something normal humans understand This episode feels like sitting at the bar after a squadron reunion while somebody keeps saying, “No seriously… this actually happened.” And somehow, every story gets crazier. Sponsor Spotlight – DCArtworks creates custom CNC-cut aviation and military artwork that honestly belongs in a ready room or squadron bar. Their handcrafted steel work is ridiculously good, and nearly every piece is custom-built to tell your story. Check out DCArtworks.net and talk to Derrick about building something unique for your office, hangar, or home. Sponsor Spotlight – We’re excited to partner with OneSkin, a company founded by PhD scientists dedicated to skin longevity. Rather than just masking the signs of aging, OneSkin’s proprietary OS-01 peptide targets the biological root causes of skin aging at the molecular level. It’s a simple, science-backed addition to your daily routine that helps your skin stay resilient and healthy, no matter how much time you’ve spent in the cockpit or out on the water. It’s dermatologist-tested and even has the National Eczema Association Seal of Acceptance, so it’s safe for the most sensitive skin. Get 15% off OneSkin with the code STIW at oneskin.co/STIW#oneskinpod

Doober comes back to tell of his acquisition of former US Marine Corps H-34 helicopter, YL-37. The helicopter restoration story starts with a mission that sounds simple. It is not. Actually, it quickly turns into a “wait, what?” situation. This episode picks up with Doober and the ongoing saga of bringing YL-37 back from the brink. The aircraft is not just old. It is stubborn. Furthermore, every step forward seems to uncover two new problems. At first, it looks manageable. Then reality shows up. Parts are rare. Systems are tired. And the deeper you go, the more you realize this is not just a restoration. It is a resurrection. Consequently, the team has to make decisions that are equal parts engineering and gut instinct. Do you rebuild? Replace? Or walk away? (Spoiler: nobody walks away.) Meanwhile, the human side of this story becomes the real hook. The persistence. The frustration. The small wins that feel huge. Actually, those moments are what keep the whole thing moving. Then comes the turning point. A breakthrough that shifts everything. But does it stick? Or is this just another setup for the next problem? By the end, YL-37 is more than a machine. It represents effort, risk, and a refusal to quit. And yeah… you will absolutely wonder if you would have stuck with it this long.YL-37 helicopter restoration story starts with a mission that sounds simple. It is not. Actually, it quickly turns into a “wait, what?” situation. This episode picks up with Doober and the ongoing saga of bringing YL-37 back from the brink. The aircraft is not just old. It is stubborn. Furthermore, every step forward seems to uncover two new problems. At first, it looks manageable. Then reality shows up. Parts are rare. Systems are tired. And the deeper you go, the more you realize this is not just a restoration. It is a resurrection. Consequently, the team has to make decisions that are equal parts engineering and gut instinct. Do you rebuild? Replace? Or walk away? (Spoiler: nobody walks away.) Meanwhile, the human side of this story becomes the real hook. The persistence. The frustration. The small wins that feel huge. Actually, those moments are what keep the whole thing moving. Then comes the turning point. A breakthrough that shifts everything. But does it stick? Or is this just another setup for the next problem? By the end, YL-37 is more than a machine. It represents effort, risk, and a refusal to quit. And yeah… you will absolutely wonder if you would have stuck with it this long. This episode proudly sponsored by DCArtworks.net and OneSkin at https://www.oneskin.co/SoThereIWas #oneskinpod #sponsored #ad YL-37 helicopter restoration story engine and mechanical rebuild workScreenshot YL-37 helicopter restoration story nearly completed aircraft on ground

This episode drops you straight into one of those situations pilots train for—but hope never happens. A routine mission turns serious fast when the fuel state stops being a number and starts becoming a problem. Not a “tight on gas” problem. A zero fuel over hostile territory problem. And now the math matters. Range, burn rate, options… none of them look good. As the situation unfolds, you’ll hear how quickly cockpit priorities shift. There’s no room for denial. Gauges are questioned. Assumptions get challenged. And the reality sets in: this might end with an ejection into a very bad place. Then comes the sliver of hope—a tanker. But even that isn’t simple. Different aircraft, mismatched speeds, and a setup that doesn’t quite work on paper. What follows is a tense, improvised attempt to make something possible out of something that really shouldn’t be. The story walks through the decision-making, the physics, and the human side of being right on the edge. There are moments of calm, flashes of clarity, and a few “this is really happening” realizations that hit hard. By the end, it’s not just about how it worked out—it’s about what it took to get there, and what sticks with you long after a flight like that is over. Tune in to this week’s show for the build up and amazing stories – and next week, we close the loop!

The C-130 flight engineer is a disappearing breed. However, the stories remain. In this episode of So There I Was, DC pulls back the curtain on high-stakes aircrew life. We explore the Air National Guard culture and the “routine” moments that turn sideways. Why is the Flight Engineer being phased out? We discuss what is lost when a computer replaces a human eye. We also spend some time chatting about DCArtworks – Online at DCArtworks.Net – DC is a sponsor of our show and – Go check out his amazing work – you will want SOMETHING either for yourself or as a gift. These are AMAZING pieces for the person who has everything… cuz they don’t got one of these! From crew dynamics to the reality of flying with “Fig,” DC shares the grit of a career spent in a Herc. Beyond the cockpit, we are also supporting our airmen downrange in Operation Old Spice by providing necessities they can’t access while deployed. This is a wandering hangar story where “normal” is only a temporary state of mind. … C130 #FlightEngineer #AirNational Guard Click the Photo to Donate

Nasty’s worst day Navy starts when a young Tomcat hopeful hears “you’re a qual” on the radio, then “you’re a disqual” at the ladder. Consequently, that gut punch on the Lex knocks his timeline off, pairs him with Bug Roach, and quietly sets the stage to help save two lives later. Actually, he walks from Key West heartbreak in a TA-4J Skyhawk to the bridge of Nimitz, with failures, promotions, and a near-buoy strike with an admiral watching. Furthermore, he digs into rules of engagement over Afghanistan, AI-driven factories that can out-build China, and why straight, honest leadership keeps people alive at sea and in combat. The “wait, what?” is how Nasty’s worst day Navy becomes the best thing that ever happened to his career, and to a couple of people who are still breathing because of it. Adm Manazir Commanded the USS Nimitz Adm. Manazir’s Leadership Maxims This week we acknowledge the tragic loss of RS-2 Tyler Jaggers US Coast Guard. Please consider donating to help support his family in this difficult time: https://tinyurl.com/tylerjaggers

Royce Williams Medal of Honor recipient joins the show to recount a legendary tale. Imagine bringing a knife to a gunfight. In this case, the knife is a subsonic F9F Panther. Furthermore, the guns are seven Soviet MiG-15s. This was just a typical Tuesday for Captain Royce Williams.   In this episode, we unpack a 35-minute dogfight hidden for half a century. The government kept it secret to avoid a “diplomatic risk.” Consequently, we dive into how Royce used his underpowered jet like a ballerina. He dodged 760 rounds of Russian spite. Then, he limped back to the carrier in a jet that looked like Swiss cheese.   Actually, this is the greatest naval aviation story you weren’t allowed to hear for fifty years. It finally features a new Medal of Honor and 73 years of “I told you so.” If you’ve ever wondered how a lone naval aviator survives a supersonic ambush, this is for you. We explore pure pilot skill and aggressive engine management.   Stay Connected: Subscribe To The Podcast: https://sothereiwas.us/subscribe/ Follow Us On Twitter: https://x.com/There_I_Was Follow Us On TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@so_there_i_was Website: https://sothereiwas.us … #MedalOfHonor #KoreanWar #MiG15 #NavalAviation #Dogfight #F9FPanther #AviationHistory #PilotStories #AviationPodcast #RoyceWilliams #NavyHero #DogfightStories #MilitaryAviation #FlightTest #FighterPilot

Discover gripping F-106 pilot stories, test pilot emergencies, and aviation safety lessons from a career pushing airplanes—and luck—to the brink. Buckle up for Da Benj’s wild ride from F-106 ice-breaking sonic booms over frozen Lake Superior to praying “Please God, don’t let me F-up” in the cockpit of the Douglas Aircraft ‘Bird of Prey’—because who straps an Air Force test pilot into a company-funded tech demo that flies like a drunk penguin? This aviation legend spills absurd tales of trapped fuel emergencies, French test pilot school spins that nearly pancaked a Casa 212, and why the 777 feels like it reads your mind better than your spouse. Dive into pilot stories that make you question every career choice while laughing your ass off at near-death absurdities only a true sky god survives. … #aviation #pilot #avgeek #testpilotstories #pilotstories #aviationsafety #militaryaviation #airforcetestpilot #fighterpilotstories #airlinepilotstories #flightinstructor #aviationpodcast #SoThereIWas #NeverRelax

Welcome to a sobering and powerful episode of So There I Was. This week, we explore incredible Hanoi Hilton survival stories with retired Navy Captain Mike “Masher” McGrath. Beyond the technical skill of flying an A-4 Skyhawk, Masher details the sheer mental grit required to survive six years of brutal captivity in North Vietnam. 2,102 Days of Endurance and Torture On June 30, 1967, Masher’s world changed in a heartbeat during a bomb run south of Hanoi. After a violent mid-air ejection that shattered his arm and back, he was captured and thrust into a nightmare. For the next 2,102 days, he lived through the horrific reality of the Vietnamese “rope trick” and constant interrogation. His captors used methods designed to dislocate shoulders and break the human spirit. However, the North Vietnamese could not destroy the bond between the American prisoners. These Hanoi Hilton survival stories are not just about pain; they are about the unbreakable will of aviators who refused to surrender their honor. The Tap Code: A Lifeline Through Stone Walls The “Hanoi Hilton” was designed to isolate men, yet the prisoners found a way to stay connected. They developed a sophisticated “tap code” to communicate through the thick walls of their cells. Because they could not speak, they used rhythmic taps to share information and maintain a military chain of command. Masher describes how this secret language allowed them to teach each other Spanish, discuss philosophy, and even share jokes to keep morale high. This connection was vital because it transformed solitary confinement into a shared mission of resistance. Consequently, the brotherhood forged in those dark cells remains one of the greatest legacies of the Vietnam War. So There I Was: Ready Room Moments This episode places you directly in the ready room to hear the raw truth of naval aviation and sacrifice. We discuss the “banana navigation” in the back of an A-4 and the terrifying reality of landing on a pitching carrier deck at night. Masher recalls the “ecstasy” of the B-52 strikes over Hanoi, which signaled that the end of their long captivity was finally near. The atmosphere is heavy with respect as the hosts listen to tales of the “Hanoi University” and the “Operation Homecoming” release in 1973. Because Masher returned with his honor intact, his story serves as a masterclass in resilience for every pilot and patriot.. … #VietnamWar #POW #HanoiHilton #NavalAviation #MilitaryHistory #AviationPodcast #SoThereIWas #CombatStories #WarStories #USNavy #A4Skyhawk #A7Corsair #Leadership #Resilience #TrueStories

In this episode of So There I Was, Fig and RePete are joined by Kemo and they sit down with two air traffic controllers to talk about what pilots never see — and rarely understand — on the other side of the mic. From go-arounds that mean “you’re not trying hard enough,” to near-miss moments that make an entire tower pucker, this conversation pulls back the curtain on how airspace actually gets managed. Along the way, we dig into controller training timelines that rival military pipelines, staffing shortages that stretch patience and margins, and what it’s like working a shutdown while still moving metal safely. Then things go sideways — canceled takeoffs for iguanas on the runway, Brasher warnings explained, and stories that absolutely did not make it into the AIM. It’s equal parts aviation reality check, dark humor, and behind-the-scenes storytelling — and once you hear it, you’ll never hear ATC the same way again. This episode dives into air traffic control stories, control tower moments, pilot experiences,aviation storytelling, flight safety discussions, and behind-the-scenes ATC perspectives. … #AirTrafficControl #AviationPodcast #SoThereIWas

This week’s So There I Was episode is a Hangout — that happens when you put pilots, controllers, and a few proud troublemakers in the same virtual room and hit “record.” We swap the kind of stories that never fit in a checklist: a Harrier night recovery that ended six inches from a very bad day, a Learjet that missed an airliner by 100 feet in IMC, and a “UFO” sighting that turned out to be Starlink doing accidental aerobatics in the sun’s glare. Then Heater drops in and casually explains how Top Gun almost became a dark vampire movie (until someone showed the director what blue sky actually looks like). Add laser-strike rage, EMAS explained for non-pilots, and the annual reminder that the Marines were the in-flight entertainment. Happy New Year—check six, and don’t touch the igniter wiring. Sticks Heater Scotty Bag O Pawel Dizzy Porky Fig RePete