Agentic Payments - EP 50 with Mitchell Jones from Lava Payments
From So What About AI Agents by Philippe Trounev
January 8, 2026 · 35 min · Season 1 · Episode 50
About this episode
Philippe Trounev and Mitchell Jones discuss the complexities of agentic payments and the necessary payment infrastructure for the evolving AI economy.
summaryIn this conversation, Philippe Trounev and Mitchell Jones delve into the complexities of agentic payments and the necessary payment infrastructure for the evolving AI economy. They discuss the challenges faced by AI startups in managing payments, the importance of measurement and optimization in payment systems, and the future of agent-to-agent payments. The conversation highlights the need for budgeting controls and trust in agent networks, emphasizing the role of gateways in facilitating these processes.takeaways Agentic payments require a clear understanding of costs and value delivery. Current payment infrastructures are inadequate for the needs of AI startups. AI startups must adapt their pricing strategies beyond traditional models. Using a payment gateway simplifies the integration of multiple AI models. Measurement is crucial for managing costs in AI operations. Budgeting controls are essential for preventing runaway costs in agentic systems. Trust and accountability are vital in agent-to-agent transactions. The future of payments will involve more automation and less human intervention. Experimentation with pricing models is now more feasible for startups…
People in this episode
Host: Philippe Trounev
Guest: Mitchell Jones
Topics covered
- agentic payments
- payment infrastructure
- AI startups
- payment systems
- budgeting
- trust
- agent-to-agent payments
Keywords
- agentic payments
- payment infrastructure
- AI startups
- payment systems
- budgeting
- trust
- agent-to-agent payments
- LavaPayments
- FinTech
- AI economy
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Lava Payments, FinTech
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