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Bubble Rut
May 20, 2026
58m 45s
Don't listen to this podcast for breaking AI news
Apr 17, 2026
38m 12s
Guardrails, Guts, and AI at the Pool
Mar 26, 2026
1h 01m 23s
We're baaaaaack! And more chaotic than ever
Mar 5, 2026
1h 01m 59s
Colleen & Michele are back on the mics! (For today, at least)
Feb 22, 2025
35m 43s
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5/20/26 | Bubble Rut✨ | entrepreneurshipbusiness challenges+1 | — | — | — | bubble rutentrepreneurship+3 | — | 58m 45s | |
| 4/17/26 | Don't listen to this podcast for breaking AI news✨ | AI toolstech conferences+3 | — | Geocodio CLIClaude Code+3 | — | AI toolsGeocodio CLI+6 | — | 38m 12s | |
| 3/26/26 | Guardrails, Guts, and AI at the Pool✨ | AI toolingteam management+3 | — | — | Austin | AIteam management+3 | — | 1h 01m 23s | |
| 3/5/26 | We're baaaaaack! And more chaotic than ever✨ | burnout recoveryAI tooling+3 | — | — | — | burnoutAI tools+3 | — | 1h 01m 59s | |
| 2/22/25 | Colleen & Michele are back on the mics! (For today, at least)✨ | podcast returnentrepreneurship+3 | — | SaaS Marketing GymTinySeed+1 | — | podcastentrepreneurship+5 | — | 35m 43s | |
| 12/5/23 | Side Projects as Insurance Policies✨ | side projectsinsurance policies+3 | Kevin Griffin | — | — | side projectsinsurance policies+3 | — | 52m 59s | |
| 11/21/23 | ADHD + Entrepreneurship: A Conversation with Jesse J. Anderson, aka ADHD Jesse✨ | ADHDentrepreneurship+3 | Jesse J. Anderson | Extra Focus: The Quick-Start Guide to Adult ADHDADD Superparenting | — | ADHDentrepreneurship+3 | — | 50m 45s | |
| 1/3/23 | What 2023 Brings for Colleen, Michele, and This Show✨ | hopes for 2023plans for the show+1 | — | — | — | 2023podcast plans+3 | — | 36m 47s | |
| 12/27/22 | The Forcing Function Episode: Launch Christian Genco's New SaaS✨ | SaaSlaunch+3 | Christian Genco | TheVideoClipper | — | SaaSlaunch+5 | — | 38m 31s | |
| 12/20/22 | Reflecting on 2022✨ | year in reviewreflection+1 | — | — | — | 2022reflection+3 | — | 35m 33s | |
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| 12/13/22 | Culture + Feedback = ??? | Michele shares her takeaways from the book The Culture Map and what it might mean for getting product feedback and building products across countries. | 28m 28s | ||||||
| 12/6/22 | TinySeed, TinyConf | Colleen recaps her learnings from her first TinySeed meetup/MicroConf: Local Austin. | 24m 47s | ||||||
| 11/29/22 | Listing on MicroAcquire | Colleen is ready to go all-in on Refine... and that means moving on from Simple File Upload. | 27m 05s | ||||||
| 11/22/22 | The Hammerstone Podcast is back | Colleen and her business partner Aaron give an update on Hammerstone (Refine) in this crossover episode. | 26m 49s | ||||||
| 11/15/22 | Qualitative and Quantitative Data | Talking to other entrepreneurs made Michele realize that she hasn't talked about interplay of qualitative *and* qualitative data enough. Michele and Colleen talk about what that means in the context of feature requests and high-touch sales. | 32m 51s | ||||||
| 11/8/22 | TinySeed! | Colleen's company was accepted to TinySeed, which means she now gets to work on Refine full time. That means she can finally make some hard decisions and push. (Note: Colleen and Michele were actually in the same place last week, so that's why the audio quality is different than normal!) | 30m 18s | ||||||
| 11/1/22 | Getting Into Public Speaking as a Developer | Michele chats with indie developer Benedicte Raae about getting into public speaking through streaming. | 38m 26s | ||||||
| 10/25/22 | Sick Leave for Indie Founders? | Should indie founders take sick leave? Michele and Colleen discuss. | 27m 49s | ||||||
| 10/18/22 | Competitive Advantage and Moats for Small SaaSes, Part 2 | Michele continues her chat with Summit founder Matt Wensing about ways indie SaaS founders can think about moats and competitive advantages. This episode: cost advantages, size advantages (big and small), and false moats. | 32m 57s | ||||||
| 10/11/22 | Talking Competitive Advantage and Moats for Small SaaSes, Part 1 | Michele chats with Summit founder Matt Wensing about intangible assets, switching costs, and network effects, and how they apply to indie software companies. | 52m 22s | ||||||
| 10/4/22 | Refine Update with Aaron and Colleen | Aaron Francis, Colleen's co-founder, swings by to chat about Refine. | 33m 09s | ||||||
| 9/27/22 | Super Pumped (aka The Saturday Edition) | Four things Colleen is super pumped about... and one thing she's not. | 36m 13s | ||||||
| 9/20/22 | Sprinting a Marathon | Colleen and Michele both have a lot going on. | 50m 09s | ||||||
| 9/13/22 | Hairy Projects and Heat Waves | Michele's trying to figure out how to approach charging sales taxes, and Colleen finally pushes to prod despite a challenging week. | 30m 28s | ||||||
| 9/6/22 | Distribution vs Marketing | Colleen's in go mode for Refine. | 54m 53s | ||||||
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