Accumulating knowledge versus attaining true wisdom. June 22, 1986

Accumulating knowledge versus attaining true wisdom. June 22, 1986

From Talks by Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee by I & A Publishing

April 11, 2026 · 1h 1m · Season 3 · Episode 132

About this episode

Lola McDowell Lee discusses the distinction between accumulating knowledge and attaining true wisdom through spiritual growth and perception.

Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee, Lola discusses the distinction between accumulating knowledge and attaining true wisdom. Lola shares the koan about a monk who asked his teacher, “Is there a teaching no master ever preached before?” And the teacher said, yes, there is. What is it, asked the monk. And the teacher replied, it is not mind, it is not Buddha, it is not things.. We require a different kind of perception—what Lola calls "listening with your eyes". She draws a sharp contrast between linear, "horizontal" learning—where teachers and students simply build upon accumulated information—and "vertical" spiritual growth. Vertical growth is an ascent of transcending conditioning, memorization, and ego to simply achieve a state of pure being. Many of us treat happiness like a math problem, mistakenly believing that putting two and two together through specific activities will consistently yield joy. True bliss, ananda , is an unpredictable consequence that arrives "like a thief in the night" only when the mind is unoccupied by expectation and anticipation. Lola recalls the famous story of the Buddha holding up a single flower before his congregation, speaking not a word, and…

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Host: Lola McDowell Lee

Topics covered

  • knowledge
  • wisdom
  • spiritual growth
  • Buddhism
  • koans
  • happiness

Keywords

  • wisdom
  • knowledge
  • Buddhism
  • spiritual growth
  • koan
  • happiness
  • ananda

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