The Autism Roundtable

How can we support autistic children with more compassion and less control? In this episode of The Autism Round Table, host Leah Gross sits down with behavior analyst and life coach Kaitlin Wilder to explore a new, heart-centered approach to working with autistic individuals. From challenging outdated models of behavior therapy to introducing tools from Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), Kaitlin offers a refreshing and deeply empathetic perspective on what it means to truly connect with and understand autistic children.Key Questions Explored in the Episode:What is Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA), and how does it shape the behavior of autistic children?How can therapists and parents balance structure with compassion?What role does Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) play in behavior support?How can we validate a child’s emotions while still encouraging growth?Why is it essential to challenge traditional ideas of “normal” in autism therapy?Kaitlin Wilder shares her transformation from traditional behavioral frameworks to a more holistic, human-centered practice. Drawing from her 15 years of experience, she explains how compassion and flexibility can make therapy more effective and sustainable. The conversation touches on the growing awareness of PDA, the integration of ACT to promote emotional awareness and value-based motivation, and the importance of meeting children where they are—without judgment or force. Together, Leah and Kaitlin explore how turning toward pain and discomfort can lead to greater freedom, both for parents and children, in their shared journey of growth.Time Stamps:00:00 Kaitlin’s Journey into Autism Coaching04:29 Understanding Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA)12:54 Compassion and Validation in ABA25:29 Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT)32:48 Motivating Through Values33:16 Understanding Human Emotions with ACT34:40 Challenging the Concept of Normal37:23 The Role of Authority in Therapy39:11 Empowering Parents and Children44:16 Turning Towards Pain for Freedom49:40 Connecting with Children on Their LevelReady to reimagine what compassionate support looks like for autistic children?Tune in to the full episode for practical tools, heartfelt stories, and expert insights from Kaitlin Wilder.

What does it really mean to accept an autism diagnosis—and how can that acceptance shape the lives of children, teens, and adults alike? In this episode, licensed professional therapist Kesley Rogers joins Leah Gross to explore the journey of navigating autism, ADHD, and related challenges across the lifespan.Kesley Rogers shares her path from volunteering with Project Search to becoming a licensed therapist specializing in neurodivergence. She emphasizes the importance of recognizing and accepting autism diagnoses, not as limitations but as opportunities for growth and support. The discussion spans early childhood challenges, teenage struggles with anxiety and depression, and adult issues like masking, job placement, and black-and-white thinking. Kesley highlights the need for open communication, advocacy, and emotional support while encouraging families and individuals to embrace authenticity and pursue fulfilling work and relationships.About The Guest:Kesley Rogers is a licensed professional therapist practicing in Tennessee and Alabama. With over a decade of experience in the autism community, she works with children, teens, and adults, focusing on neurodivergence, anxiety, ADHD, OCD, and related conditions. Her passion lies in helping individuals and families navigate diagnoses, find their strengths, and live authentically.Time Stamps:(02:09) Early inspiration and understanding the autism spectrum(05:52) The debate around labeling and diagnosis(09:55) Autism as a “superpower” and guiding strengths(11:11) Accepting individuality instead of forcing conformity(13:22) Common diagnoses in Kesley’s practice(16:26) Communication and advocacy with families and schools(19:50) Functional solutions for ADHD challenges(22:30) Challenges from early childhood to school years(25:28) Teenage years: anxiety, depression, and social struggles(33:30) Masking: effects, risks, and long-term outcomes(43:29) Adult challenges: late diagnosis, job placement, and fulfillment(55:49) Using special interests to guide work choices(59:23) Purpose, structure, and the importance of meaningful workReady to rethink how we approach autism, acceptance, and support at every stage of life?Tune in to the full episode for practical strategies and heartfelt insights from Kesley Rogers.

What does it really mean to receive an autism diagnosis—and how can parents best support their children without suppressing who they are? In this episode of The Autism Roundtable, Leah Gross welcomes Kara Nash, ASDCS, RN, a registered nurse, autism consultant, and advocate, who shares her professional expertise and lived experience as an autistic adult. Together, they dive deep into the complexities of diagnosis, therapies, parenting choices, and the importance of embracing neurodivergent identities.Discussion Points:Kara’s journey: from mental health nurse to autism advocate—and her own autism diagnosis.Understanding the DSM-5 criteria and autism “levels.”Educational vs. medical diagnoses and their implications.The tension between “looking normal” vs. supporting authentic development.Physiological vs. psychological reactions—and why parents need to know the difference.The role of stimming and how to support it in public and private settings.Parent coaching: strategies for realistic goals, puberty challenges, and family dynamics.Identity-first vs. person-first language (“autistic” vs. “person with autism”).Medication, supplements, and tracking tools for symptom management.Advocacy, inclusion, and building environments where autistic individuals can shine.Kara Nash brings both professional knowledge and personal insight into autism, weaving her 20+ years of mental health nursing with her experience as an autistic adult. She and Leah discuss the importance of accurate diagnosis, what the DSM-5 levels mean, and how parents can balance encouraging growth with respecting their child’s natural wiring. Kara highlights the significance of distinguishing between physiological responses (like sensory overload) and behavioral challenges, shares practical approaches to stimming, and explains how attachment objects and special interests can be powerful tools. They also address the sensitive but essential topics of suicide risk, medication, and advocacy. Throughout, Kara emphasizes that the goal isn’t to “fix” autistic individuals but to support them in living full, authentic, and connected lives.About The Guest:Kara Nash, ASDCS, RN, is a registered nurse with over two decades of experience in mental health, spanning inpatient, emergency, rehab, and community care. She has served as a camp nurse for autistic individuals, worked as a care manager, and now leads a private practice specializing in autism advocacy, consultation, and parent coaching. Diagnosed as autistic herself in her thirties, Kara brings a unique dual perspective that bridges professional expertise and lived experience.Time Stamps:00:00 Kara’s autism diagnosis and why it mattered07:48 Autism levels explained (DSM-5)15:12 Common diagnostic markers and asymmetrical development18:45 Advice for parents: traditional vs. affirming goals27:35 Supporting vs. correcting: where parents should focus efforts39:24 Stimming explained: why it happens and how to respond49:59 Parent coaching strategies and puberty challenges55:25 Language matters: “autistic” vs. “person with autism”01:05:41 Advocacy and creating inclusive environments01:14:08 When medication might be appropriate01:21:06 Tracking progress and journaling for treatment clarityLinks for the Guest:Connect with Kara Nash on LinkedIn: [LinkedIn Profile]Visit Kara’s website: [Website Link]Call to Action:Ready to reframe the way you see autism and better support your child’s journey?Tune in to the full episode for powerful insights from both a professional and lived perspective.

What does it mean to truly support neurodivergent children through speech therapy? In this episode, Leah Gross is joined by Christina Beta, a seasoned speech-language pathologist, to explore a powerful shift in therapy—moving from compliance-based methods to neurodiversity-affirming, child-led support. If you're a parent, educator, or therapist looking to better understand how to empower children with autism through connection and communication, this conversation is for you.Key Questions Explored in the Episode:What is neurodiversity-affirming speech therapy?How can therapists incorporate a child’s sensory needs and special interests?What is Gestalt language processing and how does it help autistic children?Why is parental involvement crucial in a child’s communication journey?How can behavior be reframed as a form of communication?Christina Beta shares her evolution from traditional speech therapy models to a neurodiversity-affirming approach centered on respect, autonomy, and co-regulation. She discusses the importance of meeting children where they are, incorporating their unique interests into therapy, and empowering parents with practical tools. Christina explains Gestalt language processing and offers actionable advice on teaching communication skills in everyday moments. Her approach highlights the value of authentic connection, advocacy, and seeing all behavior as meaningful communication.About the Guest:Christina Beta is a speech-language pathologist with a background in special education. She is passionate about supporting neurodivergent children through sensory-friendly, child-led therapy and is a vocal advocate for shifting the paradigm of speech therapy to one that affirms neurodiverse identities. Her work is rooted in empathy, family collaboration, and respect for each child’s autonomy.Time Stamps:00:00 Christina's Background and Experience00:55 Journey into Autism Support02:07 What is Neurodiversity-Affirming Therapy?03:35 Techniques for Regulation and Connection06:11 Family-Centered Goals in Speech Therapy11:36 Gestalt Language Processing16:30 How Parents Can Support Communication25:44 The Power of Being Present26:33 Behavior as a Form of Communication30:26 Teaching Communication through Everyday Interactions33:34 Role Play and Pre-Teaching Explained40:51 Advocacy and Building Support Systems

What happens when a military mom raises a neurodivergent daughter who thrives in dance despite challenges like autism and dyslexia? In this episode of The Autism Round Table, host Leah Gross welcomes Amanda and her daughter Leta for a conversation full of laughter, insight, and inspiration.Key Questions Explored in the Episode:How can parents support the unique talents of neurodivergent children?What challenges arise when raising an autistic child in a military family?How does dyslexia intersect with autism and affect creative expression?What role do structure, advocacy, and pets play in a neurodivergent child’s development?Summary of the Conversation:Amanda, a dedicated military mom, shares her experience raising Leta, a vibrant and talented young dancer on the autism spectrum. The conversation dives into topics such as stimming behaviors, the impact of dyslexia on Leta’s dancing, and the ways the military lifestyle has shaped their support system. Amanda encourages parents to celebrate their child’s unique talents while offering grounded advice drawn from her own journey. Leta joins the conversation with humor and honesty, giving listeners a heartfelt glimpse into the life of a neurodivergent teenager.About The Guest:Amanda is a military spouse and passionate advocate for her daughter Leta, who is both autistic and dyslexic. Amanda shares practical tips and encouragement from her years navigating military life and supporting Leta’s personal and creative growth. Leta, a gifted dancer, brings her voice to the episode, showing the joy and individuality that defines her journey.Key Takeaways:Embrace your child's interests—they can become powerful tools for connection and growth.A structured environment can help neurodivergent children feel secure and thrive.Dyslexia doesn’t have to be a limitation—it can coexist with artistic talent.Military communities often offer unique resources and support for families with special needs.Let your child be part of the conversation—they have wisdom and perspective to share.Time Stamps:00:00 Amanda’s background and journey into autism advocacy02:06 – Encouraging Leta’s talent in dance11:22 – Understanding and managing stimming14:49 – Advice for parents raising children on the spectrum27:54 – Navigating autism within a military family42:02 – How dyslexia affects Leta’s dance experience55:00 – The healing and supportive role of petsReady to feel inspired and better equipped to support the neurodivergent children in your life?Tune in to the full episode for heartfelt stories, expert advice, and practical encouragement.

What happens when a father, once distant, decides to turn his personal story into a mission of advocacy and change?In this episode, Jamiel Owens shares his deeply moving journey—from navigating his son’s autism diagnosis to becoming a powerful voice in the autism community. Through personal challenges, professional growth, and community activism, Jamiel illustrates what it means to show up, speak out, and build lasting impact.Key Questions Explored in the Episode:What was Jamiel’s turning point after his son’s autism diagnosis?How do fathers play a vital role in a child’s autism journey?What unique challenges does the Black community face in autism awareness and support?How can families prepare children with autism for emergency interactions, including with law enforcement?What does true advocacy look like in action?Summary:Jamiel Owens opens up about the early difficulties of accepting his son Shane’s autism diagnosis and his initial absence during that critical time. With honesty and vulnerability, he shares how he chose to grow from that place and step into advocacy. As Family Relations Coordinator at the Center for Autism Research at CHOP and founder of Awesomeness Incorporated, Jamiel is making systemic change through community outreach, law enforcement training, and parent education. He offers heartfelt advice for other parents—especially fathers—encouraging them to be present, breathe, and build a team around their child. His story is one of redemption, empowerment, and passionate service.About The Guest:Jamiel Owens is a dedicated autism advocate, father, and community leader. As the Family Relations Coordinator at the Center for Autism Research at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia (CHOP), and founder of the nonprofit Awesomeness Incorporated, Jamiel works to build stronger support systems for families of children with autism, with a special focus on underserved communities and emergency preparedness.Key Takeaways:Presence matters: Fathers have a unique and irreplaceable role in a child’s autism journey.Breathe and build a team: No one should parent alone—support is essential.Community change starts local: Jamiel’s work shows how grassroots efforts can have systemic impact.Emergency preparedness saves lives: Training law enforcement and first responders is crucial.Redemption is possible: It’s never too late to show up and make a difference.Time Stamps:00:00 - Fatherhood and Autism: A Personal Journey03:44 – The Importance of Fathers in Autism06:31 – Advice for Parents: Breathing and Teamwork12:09 – Challenges in the Black Community16:47 – Spiritual Journey and Acceptance19:30 – Advocacy and Community Work23:51 – Fire Safety and Law Enforcement TrainingLinks for the Guest:Connect with Jamiel Owens on LinkedIn:Visit Awesomeness Incorporated: Call to Action:Inspired by Jamiel’s story?Tune in to the full episode for a powerful reminder that showing up for your child—and your community—can spark real change.

Feeding therapy can be a complex journey for parents, especially when it comes to children on the autism spectrum. In this episode, occupational therapist Dena Kelly shares her extensive experience working with children facing feeding challenges, from those with neurotypical development to those with complex medical and neurodivergent profiles. She discusses the different approaches to feeding therapy, including sensory-based and behaviorally-based methods, and the critical role of emotional stability for parents during mealtimes. Dena also emphasizes the importance of a collaborative approach, involving speech therapists, GI specialists, and nutritionists, to create a comprehensive feeding plan. Tune in to gain practical strategies, valuable insights, and the reassurance that you're not alone on this journey.Discussion Points:Understanding the spectrum of feeding challenges (from neurotypical to complex medical cases)Behavioral versus sensory-based approaches to feeding therapyThe importance of collaboration among medical and therapeutic professionalsEmotional challenges for parents during the feeding journeyPractical strategies for creating a positive mealtime environmentSummary of the Conversation:In this insightful episode, Dena Kelly breaks down the complex world of feeding therapy for children on the autism spectrum. She explains how feeding challenges can vary widely, from common developmental delays to more severe medical and neurodevelopmental issues. Dena discusses the pros and cons of different therapeutic approaches, including sensory-based and behaviorally-based methods, and emphasizes the importance of emotional stability for both parents and children. She also highlights the value of collaboration with a multidisciplinary team, including occupational therapists, speech therapists, GI specialists, and nutritionists, to create a comprehensive and effective feeding plan. Finally, Dena offers practical tips for parents, reassuring them that they are not alone in this journey.About The Guest:Dena Kelly is an experienced occupational therapist specializing in feeding therapy. She has worked extensively with children on the autism spectrum, helping families navigate the challenges of feeding disorders and achieve meaningful progress. Dena’s compassionate approach focuses on empowering parents and building effective, individualized therapy plans.Key Takeaways:Feeding challenges vary widely, requiring personalized approaches.Collaboration among medical and therapeutic professionals is crucial for comprehensive care.Emotional stability for parents is essential for successful feeding therapy.Practical strategies, like structured mealtime routines, can make a significant difference.Parents are not alone – support and resources are available.Time Stamps:00:00 Introduction and Guest Background01:57 Types of Feeding Challenges04:34 Developmental Feeding Issues05:57 Behavioral Strategies for Feeding21:14 Medical Considerations in Feeding26:29 Feeding Therapy Approaches39:45 The Importance of Broccoli in Feeding40:13 Professionals in the Feeding Space40:46 Occupational Therapy and Feeding42:41 Speech Therapy and Feeding43:12 Personal Experiences with Feeding Challenges44:21 Feeding as a Training Process45:50 Other Medical Professionals in Feeding47:20 Emotional Challenges in Feeding49:27 Tips for Parents to Stay Calm54:38 Overview of the Feeding Therapy Program59:27 Final Thoughts and Encouragement for Parents01:00:35 Podcast Wrap-Up and Future PlansLinks for the Guest:Connect with Dena Kelly on LinkedIn: [LinkedIn profile link]Visit Dena Kelly's website: [Website link]Ready to take the next step in supporting your child’s feeding journey? Tune in to the full episode for expert insights and practical strategies.

How do you recognize the early signs of autism—and what should you do next? In this episode, Dr. Jennifer Poulos, a pediatric psychologist with deep expertise in developmental assessments for young children, walks us through the process of early autism diagnosis. Whether you're a parent concerned about developmental delays or a professional supporting families, this conversation provides clarity, empathy, and practical guidance for navigating the early years.Discussion Points:Recognizing developmental differences in young childrenThe importance of early and comprehensive evaluationsNavigating insurance and choosing the right providersEmotional impact on families and practical next stepsCreating individualized therapy plans and monitoring progressEmployment and long-term outlooks for neurodivergent individualsSummary of the Conversation:Dr. Jennifer Poulos shares her expert perspective on identifying and diagnosing autism in children aged 0–5. She outlines the typical developmental milestones, when to raise concerns, and how to start the evaluation process. Dr. Poulos explains the nuances of comprehensive assessments, the role of early intervention, and how therapy should be tailored to each child’s unique strengths and challenges. She also provides emotional guidance for families, offering a hopeful and empowering view of what comes after a diagnosis, including support networks and long-term opportunities for individuals on the spectrum.About The Guest:Dr. Jennifer Poulos is a pediatric psychologist who specializes in early childhood developmental assessments. Her work focuses on helping families identify and address neurodevelopmental differences in the earliest years, setting children up for the most effective interventions and long-term success.Key Takeaways:Early signs of autism often appear before age 3—trust your instincts and seek guidance.Comprehensive evaluations by experienced specialists are essential for accurate diagnosis.Early intervention can significantly impact developmental outcomes.Emotional support for families is just as vital as clinical treatment.Every child’s journey is unique—individualized care makes a meaningful difference.Time Stamps:00:00 – Understanding early signs and navigating insurance03:36 – How to choose the right specialist07:19 – The evaluation process11:00 – What a comprehensive assessment includes20:21 – Coping with emotions and practical steps post-diagnosis38:25 – Building community and support39:11 – Autism statistics and what they mean39:48 – Employment opportunities for neurodivergent individuals41:10 – What to do after receiving a diagnosis45:41 – The role of therapy and early intervention46:51 – Creating individualized therapy plans51:30 – When and why reevaluation mattersLinks for the Guest:Connect with Dr. Jennifer Poulos on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drjenniferpoulos/Visit Dr. Jennifer Poulos’s website: https://intownwellness.org/If you're navigating the early stages of an autism diagnosis—or supporting someone who is—this episode is packed with essential guidance and heartfelt support.Tune in now to gain clarity, confidence, and hope for the journey ahead.