
EP #90 The Dance of Communication: A deep dive into Matching, Pacing, and Leading
From The Brain Language Podcast by Susan Stageman, Morgan Jobe, James Lusk, and others
August 29, 2025 · 59 min · Episode 90
About this episode
This episode explores the foundational NLP concepts of matching, pacing, and leading to enhance communication and influence.
Send us Fan Mail It seems you can lead the horse to water and it will drink! You need patience! Patience is what is necessary to influence and persuade: taking people's maps into new territories. Matching, pacing, and leading are foundational concepts in NLP, crucial for establishing rapport, understanding another person’s model of the world, and guiding them towards desired outcomes. It’s an important part of many NLP methods and processes, and can often be the key skill to making thos...
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Hosts: Susan Stageman, Morgan Jobe, James Lusk
Topics covered
- communication
- NLP
- rapport
- influence
- persuasion
- matching
- pacing
- leading
Keywords
- NLP
- communication
- rapport
- influence
- persuasion
- matching
- pacing
- leading
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