The Chronic Pain Experience Podcast

If you're tired of feeling like you have to keep it all together while silently struggling with chronic pain or illness, this episode is for you. Join us as we explore a different way forward—one built on self-trust, boundaries, and redefining what strength really means.

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​​If you’ve been searching for ways to reduce chronic pain and feel like you’ve tried everything—medication, procedures, therapies—but the relief never lasts, this guide is for you. In the final episode of a three-part series from Pain 2 Possibilities, I will walk through why pain becomes stubborn and, more importantly, what you can do about it. Below I’ll summarize and expand on this evidence-based approach so you have a clear, practical plan to reduce chronic pain and reclaim more of your life. 1) Why this matters: chronic pain is not just about tissue Many people assume ongoing pain equals ongoing tissue damage. That’s not always true. To reduce chronic pain we need to understand that pain can be a multi-system problem: structural/mechanical, nervous system sensitization, and psychological/social factors. When treatments only address one area, especially just the structural side, pain often persists.  I see many treatments help briefly but not change the long-term trajectory. This is common and points toward nervous system sensitization as a major contributor to stubborn pain. 2) What changes when pain becomes chronic Decades of research show living with chronic pain changes the body in measurable ways. These are not “in your head” in a dismissive sense; they are changes in neurobiology, perception, and regulation. Here are some examples to watch for if you want to reduce chronic pain: Altered brain maps: People with chronic pain often struggle to rapidly identify left vs. right side or to draw a limb accurately (common in complex regional pain syndrome). Sensory perception shifts: Body parts can feel “different” to the brain—bigger, smaller, fuzzier—because the brain’s representation has shifted. Regulatory dysfunction: Immune, autonomic, and pain systems become overactive producing unpredictable symptoms. Changed movement patterns: Pain and pain anticipation change how you move. The brain learns protective patterns that can reinforce pain long-term.Recognizing these patterns helps you and your clinician decide if the focus should be on retraining the nervous system to reduce chronic pain—not just fixing tissue or reducing immediate intensity. 3) Why many treatments don’t give lasting relief To reduce chronic pain you must understand which part of the problem a given treatment actually addresses. I break these into four categories: treatments that change pain intensity, treatments that address structure/mechanics, mind-body approaches, and nervous-system-specific interventions. Pain intensity tools: Analgesics, injections, nerve blocks, TENS. These can lower the immediate volume of pain—like turning down a stereo—but often don’t fix the faulty wiring causing the noise to return. Structural/mechanical treatments: Physiotherapy for joint stability, chiropractic alignment, surgery, weight loss. Essential when the problem is structural—but not sufficient when sensitization drives pain. Mind-body methods: CBT, meditation, journaling, apps like Curable. Useful for addressing thinking, fear, and stress, but alone can fall short when pain pathways are overactive. Nervous system retraining: Education + graded, neuroscience-based drills that directly target the altered neurobiology of chronic pain. 4) Evidence-backed treatments that target the nervous system When the nervous system is involved, evidence-based interventions focus on changing how the brain processes body signals. These methods are designed to rewire and desensitize the nervous system progressively and safely: Pain education: Understanding pain reduces threat and fear. Knowledge changes perception; when you know what is happening and why, your brain can reduce defensive responses. Graded motor imagery (GMI): A sequence of interventions (left-right discrimination, motor imagery, mirror therapy) proven useful in conditions like complex regional pain syndrome and other sensitized states. Sensory discrimination training: Peripheral “bottom-up” work that refines sensory maps—touch labelling, texture recognition, and precise sensory tasks. Motor retraining: Gentle graded exposure to feared movements, broken down into micro-steps to rebuild confidence. Mirror therapy: Visual feedback to re-align brain representation with actual movement and reduce perceived threat. Top-down approaches: Imagery, visualization, and cognitive tasks that change brain expectation and cortical processing. Combining bottom-up and top-down approaches is more powerful than either alone. The nervous system learns from both peripheral input and central expectation—so to reduce chronic pain we must retrain both directions. 5) What recovery actually looks like Recovery is individual. To reduce chronic pain successfully you should plan for a process, not a quick fix. Outcomes vary—some people become pain-free, others find pain becomes background noise, and many regain function and confidence even while some symptoms persist. Common recovery milestones include: Less fear around movement and activities More predictable day-to-day pain intensity Improved sleep and energy Increased ability to work and participate in valued roles A toolkit you can use for flare-ups for life Change requires time, patience, and daily practice—often only minutes per day. The brain didn’t rewire overnight; it won’t undo overnight either. But consistent, incremental practice creates new neural pathways that reduce chronic pain over weeks and months. 6) The recovery formula: the components you need to change pain longterm Based on the latest research,  The 16 Week Change Pain Academy pulls together these components to form a practical formula to reduce chronic pain: Precursors: Rule out red flags and clarify the type of pain (acute damage vs. chronic sensitization). Pain education: Learn what pain is and why it acts the way it does. Building Your Foundations: Sleep, stress, daily routines, pacing, and a flare plan. Retraining (bottom-up + top-down): Graded motor imagery, sensory discrimination, mirror therapy, and movement reassociation. Coaching: Guidance, accountability, and help tailoring the steps to your unique pain experience. Support & community: People who understand chronic pain and can give and receive help. Accountability: Small, regular check-ins to keep you advancing. All of these pieces together create an ecosystem where recovery can happen. Missing one piece makes the process slower or less effective. To reduce chronic pain, you don’t need every possible therapy—you need the right combination for your situation, applied consistently. 7) Precursors: what to check first Before starting a nervous-system-focused program to reduce chronic pain, make sure you’ve addressed the basics: See a physician to rule out red flags (serious pathology requiring immediate care). Confirm whether imaging or structural problems explain the pain. Before you begin on any pain recovery plan it is wise to ensure you are living/working in a safe environment.  Clarify your goals: what do you want life to look like when your pain improves? Only once those precursors are clear can you safely and effectively focus on retraining to reduce chronic pain. 8) Coaching and community: why they matter Coaching is not a luxury; it’s an active ingredient in many successful recoveries. A skilled coach helps you turn knowledge into daily practice, asks powerful questions, and holds you accountable. Community reduces isolation and provides practical tips, empathy, and the chance to learn from others who have reduced chronic pain. Support—whether from family, clinicians, or peers—affects outcomes. If you feel dismissed by your healthcare team, find supportive people who understand the biopsychosocial model of pain. 9) What to expect from a structured program A well-designed, evidence-informed program to reduce chronic pain will typically be: Structured and incremental—lessons and drills build slowly. Multimodal—education, retraining, sleep and stress foundations, pacing. Interactive—live coaching or group sessions plus peer support. Practical—daily, short brain retraining exercises that fit into real life. The 16 week Change Pain Academy is designed around these principles: science-first, practical, and supportive. They’re not a quick fix but a methodical path that gives you skills to reduce chronic pain long term. 10) Common obstacles and how to overcome them Two common traps slow recovery: “boom and bust” activity cycles and perfectionism. Boom-and-bust creates flare cycles—overdo one day, crash the next. Perfectionism leads to avoidance or all-or-nothing thinking. Both amplify pain by reinforcing threat beliefs and limiting gradual gains. To reduce chronic pain, replace extremes with pacing and compassionate persistence: set small goals, measure progress, and accept that incremental change compounds into meaningful improvements. 11) When to seek professional help If your pain is changing quickly, progressing, or accompanied by red-flag symptoms (significant weakness, sudden weight loss, fever, loss of bowel/bladder control), seek immediate medical care. Once red flags are excluded and pain is chronic or unexplained, consider a program or clinicians versed in pain neuroscience to reduce chronic pain effectively such as The 16 Week Change Pain Academy. 12) Final thoughts: hope + persistence Stubborn pain feels isolating, but the science is clear: nervous systems are adaptable. Even long-standing pain can change through targeted education, graded practice, and supportive coaching. My message—and this practical guide—is about understanding the biology, building daily habits that retrain the brain, and creating a support system that helps you persist. Recovery is a process, and each small, consistent practice rewires your nervous system toward safety and function. You can reduce chronic pain and build a life you enjoy again.

In this episode of the Chronic Pain Experience Podcast, host and Chronic Pain Recovery Coach, Deana Tsiapalis, delves into the complexities of chronic pain recovery and the systemic barriers faced by patients. Following the tragic death of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, Deana explores the frustrations many feel toward the healthcare system, particularly issues like outdated treatment models, high rates of claim denials, and prolonged wait times for coverage approvals. Deana also discusses the importance of patient education and self-advocacy, unveiling the top five challenges chronic pain warriors face in securing insurance coverage and offering resources and strategies for navigating these hurdles. 00:00 Introduction to the Chronic Pain Experience 00:43 The Impact of Insurance on Chronic Pain 02:15 Top Challenges in Securing Coverage 02:40 Outdated Insurance Models and Their Consequences 07:50 High Rates of Claim Denials 12:58 Prolonged Wait Times for Approvals 16:54 Limited Coverage for Non-Pharmacological Treatments 19:46 The Financial Toll on Patients and Families 21:59 Empowering Yourself Through Education 22:56 Conclusion and Call to Action Find our free resources Looking for more free resources? Click here to join our unique free community exclusively for chronic pain warriors, access our sought after ‘A Healing Night’s Sleep For Chronic Pain + Checklist’ and more by clicking HERE. Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts “I love Deana’s message inside The Chronic Pain Experience Podcast” <– If that sounds like you, please consider rating and reviewing my show! This helps me support more people — just like you — move toward a life well lived despite the pain. Click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode!Have your say! Complete our brief (3 min) survey to help me improve our growing podcast! You can do so HERE.

After a catastrophic injury we rely on the brilliance of our allopathic model. When the condition becomes chronic or in the case of a life long disability, our allopathic model falls short. Join Chanda Hinton and myself as we discuss the Chanda Center in Colorado and the amazing work her centre is doing to make integrative care more accessible to those living with spinal injuries, Multiple Sclerosis, chronic conditions and so much more! You can learn more about Chanda and all the amazing work she is doing at chandacenter.org. Find our free resources:Click HERE  for more free resources or to join our community exclusively for chronic pain warriors. You can also rate, review, & follow on Apple Podcasts. “I love Deana’s message inside The Chronic Pain Experience Podcast” <– If that sounds like you, please consider rating and reviewing my show! This helps me support more people — just like you — move toward a life well lived despite the pain. Click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode!Have your say! Complete our brief (3 min) survey to help me improve our growing podcast! You can do so HERE.

In this episode I discuss how our current model of chronic pain care is struggling to keep up with the new science of pain. Where chronic pain warriors are stuck in a model of care that is outdated and ineffective for chronic pain specifically (but great for acute care). From the lack of mandatory chronic pain curriculum for our physicians to insurance policies locked on the old science of pain, we have some work to do. Find our free resources:Looking for more free resources? Click the link to join our unique free community exclusively for chronic pain warriors, access our sought after ‘A chronic pain warriors guide to better Doctor’s visits’ and more by clicking HERE. Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts“I love Deana’s message inside The Chronic Pain Experience Podcast” <– If that sounds like you, please consider rating and reviewing my show! This helps me support more people — just like you — move toward a life well lived despite the pain. Click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Have your say Complete our brief (3 min) survey to help me improve our growing podcast! You can do so HERE.

Isolation that comes from Chronic pain can come in different forms such as isolation from others, disconnectedness from ourselves and touch starvation. In this episode I sit down with Kat Anna to talk about the biological, psychological and social implications of touch starvation, chronic pain and it’s impact on the nervous system. More importantly we discuss the important work to help you move through it all. Touch releases oxytocin which helps to ease us into more of a relaxed state which ultimately helps to bring us out of fight/flight or freeze, block the pain signals thereby helping you to manage the pain. Visit this link for free content and to join our amazing free community for those living with pain 👉 linktr.ee/pain2possibilities.

Opioid induced constipation coupled with chronic pain can make life both unbearable and unpredictable. Join me as I sit down with Nicole Hemmenway from the Us Pain Foundation and Megan Filloramo to talk about opioid induced constipation, the stigma and the solutions as a part of the International Opioid Constipation Awareness Day. Join Our Free Community Looking for a unique community to create meaningful connections with others who are experiencing much the same as you are inside a safe space away from the confines of Facebook? Click HERE to join our Free Cwtch Community. Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts “I love Deana’s message inside The Chronic Pain Experience Podcast” <– If that sounds like you, please consider rating and reviewing my show! This helps me support more people — just like you — move toward a life well lived despite the pain. Click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! If you’d like a copy of our FREE Chronic pain warrior’s guide to better doctor appointments click HERE. Have your say! Complete our brief (3 min) survey to help me improve our growing podcast! You can do so HERE.

Pain is a universal human experience, whether it’s physical, emotional, or social. It can be all-encompassing, overwhelming, and at times, seem insurmountable often leading to a narrative of suffering. But what if we could change the narrative on how we perceive pain? Pain Research and countless stories from individuals who have faced extraordinary challenges, battled pain in its many forms, and emerged on the other side is showing us that perspective matters. In this episode, I’m joined by Fraser Brown, a chronic pain warrior, podcaster, and advocate. Together, we’ll explore Fraser’s journey through pain and how he maintains a resilient and positive outlook as a part of his pain management strategy. Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts “I love The Chronic Pain Experience Podcast” <– If that sounds like you, please consider rating and reviewing my show! This helps me support more people — just like you — move toward living well alongside pain rather than under it’s crushing weight. Click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! You can also leave your comments about our podcast HERE. Your anonymous answers will be used to make The Chronic Pain Experience podcast even better!

Join Anne Schober and myself as we discuss her latest book she co-authored called ‘Invincible – Finding the Light Beyond the Darkness of Chronic Illness.‘ We explore Anne’s experience with pain and living with an invisible illness along with her inspiration in writing the book. If you are curious to learn more about chronic pain and how to find your way back to living well despite the pain, check out how we can support you at www.pain2possibilities.com Have your say! To help this podcast grow I would love your feedback inside our short survey here.

During our annual Willow Tree Summit, our chronic pain warriors sit down with me in ‘Conversations from the couch’ to talk about the information shared inside the summit. Our Summits aim to hear from a variety of experts…those who live with pain and those that serve them.

When you get a chronic diagnosis, the positive messaging (and the hope) goes out the window and leaves the warrior feeling unsure of what’s to come. In this episode, I offer a different perspective on your capabilities and how impressive (and complicated) your body and brain truly are.

In this episode I sit down with Kyira Wackett, Therapist and Trauma survivor, to discuss Shame and it’s impact on the lived experience of pain and trauma. This conversation comes from our Willow Tree Trauma And Chronic Pain Summit in 2023.