AI:AM #3: Zvi on Fable, the Cases For & Against the Ban, + AI for Math, Logistics & More

AI:AM #3: Zvi on Fable, the Cases For & Against the Ban, + AI for Math, Logistics & More

From "The Cognitive Revolution" by Erik Torenberg, Nathan Labenz

June 21, 2026 · 2h 15m · Season 1

About this episode

Zvi Mowshowitz discusses Anthropic's Fable system and the implications of government actions against it.

Zvi Mowshowitz joins AI in the AM to unpack Anthropic's Fable system card, including its FrontierMath leap, troubling Vending-Bench behavior, decision-theory drift, and signs that model reasoning may be becoming harder to read. The episode then turns to the US government's attempted export-control action against Fable, with Zvi arguing that the cited jailbreak demonstration did not prove the claimed threat while still faulting Anthropic's political handling. Sam Hammond and Judd Rosenblatt add competing reads on state capacity, CAISI, NSA-driven caution, and the alignment world's failure to build trust across partisan lines. The stakes are whether frontier AI capability, safety evaluation, and government power can be coordinated before medicine, mathematics, software, and cyber-relevant systems move further ahead. For full show notes, links, and references, read the episode page:https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai/ai-am-3-zvi-on-fable-the-cases-for-against-the-ban-ai-for-math-logistics-more/ Mercury: Command is Mercury’s new conversational interface, giving you natural-language access to your finances and helping you take actions within your existing permissions and approval…

People in this episode

Hosts: Erik Torenberg, Nathan Labenz

Guest: Zvi Mowshowitz

Topics covered

  • AI systems
  • export control
  • decision theory
  • government regulation
  • AI safety
  • trust in AI

Keywords

  • Fable
  • AI for Math
  • logistics
  • export control
  • decision theory
  • AI safety
  • government power

Sponsors

Claude, Mercury

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Anthropic, US government

Products: Fable, Claude

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