The Conspiracy Podcast

Listen on Spotify Prefer another app? Also on Apple Podcasts · YouTube. The short version Everybody knows the Noah story. Almost nobody knows that 18 miles south of Mount Ararat there is a 515-foot, boat-shaped lump of rock that a small group of people have spent decades insisting is the actual Ark. In Part 2, we go looking for the physical evidence: the formation a Kurdish farmer noticed after a 1948 earthquake, the nurse anesthetist who took 25 trips to prove it was real, the ground-penetrating radar scans claiming three buried decks, and the 2024 soil tests that came back weird. Then we zoom out to the bigger question that actually has teeth: forget the boat for a second, was there really a flood? Spoiler, we don’t all agree, and one of us blames aliens (as a joke). Mostly. “Noah is Elon Musk. I’m just gonna say it, he knew what was coming.” — Jorge What we get into The “boat in the rock” 18 miles south of Ararat, and whether the boat shape is real or a Jesus-on-toast situation How a Kurdish farmer found it after a 1948 rainstorm and earthquake, and how a Turkish army pilot photographed it in 1951 The 1960 expedition where a geologist took one look, said “it’s a natural fold,” and went home Ron Wyatt: 22 years, 25 trips, and a pile of claims about iron fittings, anchor stones, and petrified wood The debunk: the “petrified wood” that tested as limonite, the “anchor stones” that turned out to be tombstones The modern Noah’s Ark Scans team, their 2023 radar findings, and the 2024 soil samples The Black Sea deluge hypothesis, and why the flood evidence is stronger than the boat evidence Ararat vs. Mount Cudi: where the Bible and the Quran disagree on the landing site All six major theories of what the Ark actually was, or wasn’t The evidence, and why it’s so disputed The formation itself is real and it is strange: a long, ship-shaped outline with a raised central ridge, sitting around 6,300 feet up in eastern Turkey near the village of Uzengili. It measures roughly 515 feet long, which is suspiciously close to the 300 cubits the Bible gives for the Ark. A local farmer spotted it after heavy rain and an earthquake in 1948, a Turkish army captain photographed it from the air during a 1951 NATO mapping mission, and a 1960 scientific expedition declared the whole thing a natural geological fold. Then came Ron Wyatt, a Tennessee nurse anesthetist with zero archaeological training, who showed up in 1977 and kept coming back for 22 years. He ran early ground-penetrating radar and claimed internal rooms and corridors, a grid of metal “fittings,” nearby “anchor stones,” and petrified wood. The problem: later testing identified the wood as limonite (a natural iron mineral), the anchor stones as tombstones, and Wyatt also claimed to have found the Ark of the Covenant, which did not help his credibility. Even his own collaborator, David Fasold, eventually reversed his position and called the site a natural syncline. The site outlived Wyatt, though, and it deserves a real look. That’s where independent researcher Andrew Jones and the Noah’s Ark Scans team come in. Their 2019 3D radar survey, analyzed in 2023, reported a central corridor about 234 feet long sitting roughly 20 feet underground, three horizontal layers that line up with the Ark’s three decks, and tunnel-like features. In 2024 they pulled 88 soil samples from 22 spots and found organic matter and potassium noticeably higher inside the outline than in the surrounding volcanic mudflow. None of it is proof, and skeptics still read it as a natural fold, which is exactly why core drilling for physical samples was announced for 2025 and 2026. So was there even a flood? Here’s where it gets interesting, because the flood evidence is a lot stronger than the boat evidence. In 1996, Columbia marine geologists William Ryan and Walter Pitman found that the Black Sea used to be a freshwater lake, until around 5600 BC the Mediterranean broke through the land barrier with something like 20

http://www.patreon.com/theconspiracypodcast The Ark of the Covenant vanished from history in 586 BC — and for 2,600 years, everyone from ancient pharaohs to Nazi SS officers has been searching for it. In Part 2 of their deep dive, Jorge, Eric, and Sean break down the most compelling theories about where the world’s most powerful relic actually ended up. The guys go inside Ethiopia’s extraordinary claim — where 45 million Orthodox Christians believe the Ark sits inside a tiny, heavily guarded chapel in Axum, protected by a single monk who takes its secrets to his grave. They unpack the Kebra Nagast, the tale of King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba, and why the most fully developed theory in history might also be the most flawed. Then they dig into the Copper Scroll — an actual treasure map discovered in the Dead Sea caves listing 64 hidden locations and billions of dollars in sacred relics. Could the Ark be buried somewhere in the Judaean wilderness? Is it still hidden beneath the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, right under the Dome of the Rock? Or did the Babylonians simply melt it down for gold centuries ago? The episode also covers the Nazi occult — the real Himmler, the real Ahnenerbe, and why the most militarized regime in modern history sent government-funded expeditions to track down a biblical artifact. Spoiler: they didn’t find it either. By the end, Jorge, Eric, and Sean land on where they think the Ark actually is — and the answer is both the simplest and most deflating theory of all. Topics covered: The Ethiopian claim and the Chapel of the Tablet in Axum The Kebra Nagast, King Solomon, and Menelik I Graham Hancock’s The Sign and the Seal and the Elephantine theory The Book of 2 Maccabees and the Mount Nebo cave The Copper Scroll and the Dead Sea treasure map The Temple Mount theory — still buried in Jerusalem? Himmler, the SS Ahnenerbe, and the Nazi hunt for the occult Did the Ark ever have real powers — or was it just a very important box? Haven’t listened to Part 1 yet? Go back and start there — Jorge, Eric, and Sean cover what the Ark was, what it could do, and the moment it disappeared from the historical record. Subscribe, leave a review, and join the Patreon for more.

http://www.patreon.com/theconspiracypodcast Part 1 was the rise. This is the fall. We pick up in the ’90s, when the world that had made Michael Jackson started turning on him. The tabloids had a field day. The hyperbaric chamber. The Elephant Man’s bones. A baby dangled off a balcony in Berlin. One by one, the story of the greatest entertainer who ever lived began to curdle into something else entirely. Then came the allegations. A dentist who drugged his own kid to get a confession. A $20 million demand to stay quiet. A 2003 documentary that aired to 48 million people and changed everything. A trial with 14 counts, a circus outside the courthouse, and a jury that came back not guilty — on every single one. And then, four years later, a rented mansion in Holmby Hills. A doctor on his phone with a cocktail waitress. A call to 911 that came 90 minutes too late. And the most famous human being on earth, gone at 50. We get into the death, the theories, the $400 million lawsuit still pending, and the question nobody has a clean answer to — was it negligence, a cash grab, a conspiracy, or all three? We also give you our takes. Unfiltered. 00:00 — Intro, Patreon shoutouts 03:00 — Part 1 recap & where we left off 08:00 — “Wacko Jacko” — the tabloids turn on him & the hyperbaric chamber truth 09:00 — The Elephant Man bones stunt that went horribly wrong 10:00 — Blanket over the Berlin balcony — the guys debate it 11:00 — Jordan Chandler 1993: the Rent-A-Wreck call that started everything 12:00 — The dentist dad who drugged his own kid to get a confession 13:00 — Evan Chandler demands $20 million — the guys call it immediately 15:00 — The LAPD raid, the Asia tour collapse & the world’s worst PR agent 16:00 — The $15.3 million settlement & the “innocent men don’t pay” debate 19:00 — Martin Bashir’s documentary airs to 48 million people 20:00 — The hand-holding interview — the guys watch it, react to it 24:00 — Macaulay Culkin & Corey Feldman defend Michael 25:00 — Tom Sneddon reopens the case & Neverland gets raided again 26:00 — The 2005 trial: 14 counts, pajamas in court & the circus outside 29:00 — The jury acquits on all 14 counts — not even one 30:00 — “I hate this place. I never want to see it again.” — Michael leaves Neverland forever 32:00 — James Safechuck: the Pepsi commercial kid & what he alleged 34:00 — Wade Robson: testified for Michael in 2005, then flipped in 2013 41:00 — Leaving Neverland wins an Emmy, music gets pulled worldwide 42:00 — The estate sues HBO and wins — Neverland Firsthand rebuttal 44:00 — The train station that wasn’t built yet — the key credibility dispute 45:00 — Leaving Neverland 2 drops in 2025 & the $400 million lawsuit 47:00 — The death: propofol, insomnia & “give me the milk” 51:00 — The night of June 24th — drug after drug, nothing works 52:00 — Murray on the phone with a cocktail waitress while Michael stops breathing 53:00 — CPR on the bed with one hand — the 911 call that came too late 54:00 — Pronounced dead at 2:26 PM — the coroner rules homicide 55:00 — Murray convicted, gets 4 years, walks in 2 & moves to Trinidad 57:00 — Theory 1: AEG held a $17 million life insurance policy on Michael 59:00 — Theory 2: He faked his death — the Elvis parallel 01:01 — Theory 3: Murdered for the catalog — Paris & La Toya speak out 01:03 — Theory 4: Sony silenced him — follow the money 01:04 — Theory 5: The never-ending lawsuit machine & the $400 million cash grab 01:09 — Final takes: did he do it? Who killed him? The guys give their verdicts 01:19 — Murray should’ve gotten more time — unanimous agreement 01:20 — The Matthew Perry & Prince parallel — why the story made them sad 01:21 — Most famous person of all time? MJ vs. Jordan vs. Alexander the Great

http://www.patreon.com/theconspiracypodcast The FULL Pyramids Compilation (5 EPs in one) The show’s 100th episode. What started as a milestone special turned into five full episodes, hours of debate, and one of the most spirited arguments in podcast history. Now it’s all in one place. Eric, Sean, and Jorge dive headfirst into the greatest mystery in human history: Who built the Great Pyramids of Giza — and how the hell did they do it? Part 1 — The History: Before the conspiracies, lay the foundation. The Nile River, the Old Kingdom, the pharaohs, and a timeline that puts the Great Pyramid in perspective. It was built before coins, before paper, before the domestication of horses in Africa — and Cleopatra was closer in time to us than to the pyramids. Parts 2 & 3 — Sean’s Episodes: Sean comes in swinging with 20 pages of things that don’t add up. The Great Pyramid’s near-perfect alignment with True North (off by 0.05 degrees — more precise than the Washington Monument). Pi and the Golden Ratio embedded in its dimensions. The Earth’s own proportions mirrored in its geometry. Impossible 80-ton granite slabs. Sealed doors discovered by robots. Salt deposits in the Queen’s Chamber. And the burning question: if it was just a tomb, where’s the body? Part 4 — Eric’s Episode: Eric fights back. He makes the case that mankind — skilled, organized, and wildly underestimated — built the pyramids with no alien assistance. He brings evidence: the workers’ village, Machu Picchu, the Great Wall of China, the Hoover Dam. His thesis? Human ingenuity has always defied what seems impossible. The Update: Two weeks after Episode 100 aired, news broke of a massive underground complex discovered beneath Giza using satellite radar — interconnected chambers, spiraling shafts, and cylindrical voids stretching nearly two kilometers underground. We had to come back. Everything’s on the table again. History, mystery, bad diagrams, and a few things we still can’t explain. Buckle up. 00:00:00 – Welcome & why we saved the pyramids for Episode 100 00:07:00 – “Who built the pyramids and how did they do it?” 00:11:00 – The Nile River: ancient Egypt’s lifeline 00:19:00 – The Step Pyramid & Pharaoh Djoser 00:26:00 – Pharaoh Khufu and the Great Pyramid of Giza 00:35:00 – Why did they stop building pyramids? 00:38:00 – Cleopatra was closer to us than to the pyramids 00:46:00 – Were the pyramid workers slaves? 01:13:00 – The pyramid’s alignment with True North 01:25:00 – Over 1,000 pyramids exist around the world 01:32:00 – 0.05 degrees off True North — more precise than the Washington Monument 01:39:00 – Alignment with Orion and Sirius 01:48:00 – Pi appears in the pyramid’s dimensions 01:55:00 – The Golden Ratio in the pyramid’s proportions 02:02:00 – The pyramid encodes Earth’s exact proportions 02:03:00 – The pyramid’s coordinates match the speed of light 02:11:00 – The King’s Chamber: 80-ton granite ceiling slabs 02:17:00 – The empty sarcophagus — no body, no explanation 02:23:00 – Electromagnetic anomalies inside the King’s Chamber 03:09:00 – The Queen’s Chamber: sealed doors discovered by robot 03:25:00 – Tomb or energy generator? 03:33:00 – Quartz in the granite walls generating electricity 03:41:00 – Could sound and vibration have moved the stone blocks? 04:07:00 – The Sphinx: water erosion theory and its true age 04:14:00 – Hidden chamber beneath the Sphinx 04:35:00 – Were the pyramids built by humans alone? 04:55:00 – The Great Wall of China vs. the pyramids 05:15:00 – The Coral Castle: one man, no machinery, 1,000 tons of coral 05:35:00 – Lost technology: the real reason we can’t explain the pyramids? 05:56:00 – BREAKING: Underground structure discovered beneath Giza 06:00:00 – Satellite radar reveals hidden chambers and spiraling voids 06:08:00 – Ancient energy grid theory 06:14:00 – “The most significant discovery at Giza in over 50 years” 06:24:00 – Final verdicts from all three hosts