The Deep End With Lecrae

Go to talkiatry.com/lecrae to get matched with a psychiatrist today. I'm excited for this one, fam. Today on The Deep End, I'm sitting down with my brother Country Wayne. Most of the world knows him for the billions of streams, the Netflix specials, and the viral skits that make your "mama's mama" laugh. But when you really look at his history, you see a story that's way deeper and more serious than the comedy he puts out. We're talking about a man who lost his mom at 11, grew up surrounded by the drug game in Milan, Georgia, and eventually became a "doughboy" himself. But even when he was in the middle of all that, he never let what he was doing shake his faith in who he was. What We Dive Into: The Exit Strategy: Wayne talks about how he was trying to get out of the streets the entire time he was in them, eventually picking up a Bible at age 24 and reading it from the beginning. The Narrow Escape: He shares the wild reality of going viral while still "selling licks" and how he finally quit the game just one day before the feds knocked on his door. Faith Over Fame: Why he isn't ashamed to scream the name of Jesus and why he feels he's "endorsed" by God rather than the industry. Real Success: How he manages being a father of 10 and why he puts his business and family's well-being over the hollow parts of fame. Regrets and Redemption: A transparent look at his biggest regret—not doing what he was supposed to be doing sooner—and how losing his mother taught him that nothing in this world is truly "real" except faith. "I just laugh through the fire... I knew I had a purpose and I just knew it was always tied to God." Wayne is a true innovator and a serial entrepreneur who used the skills he learned in the streets to build a kingdom-minded empire. This conversation isn't just about comedy; it's about the grit, wisdom, and divine timing it takes to change your life. Watch the full episode now to see how Wayne turned a mess into a masterpiece. _______________________________________________ 📱Follow our new instagram! - https://www.instagram.com/deependlecr... 📱 Connect with Lecrae - https://linktr.ee/Lecrae 📮 Join the conversation… Exclusive previews, discounts, bonus content, and more: https://deependwithlecrae.com/ Stream the Album: https://music.apple.com/us/album/reconstruction/1828052699 👕 Shop Lecrae Merch: https://lecrae.store/

What does it really take to survive marriage, ministry, fame, mental health battles, and faith... all at the same time? In this episode of The Deep End, Lecrae sits down with gospel icons, actors, and comedians David Mann and Tamela Mann for one of the most raw and honest conversations we've ever had. They open up about their nearly 40-year marriage, childhood trauma, poverty, blended family challenges, public scrutiny, depression, suicidal thoughts, and the faith that held them together when everything else was falling apart. From dumpster-diving as teenagers to standing ovations with Tyler Perry, from silent suffering to healing through therapy and prayer. This is survival, grace, repentance, forgiveness, and love that refuses to quit. If you've ever wondered: – How strong marriages are actually built – What faith looks like in depression, not just success – How to support a spouse who is drowning silently – Why therapy and prayer are not enemies – Or how God redeems the most painful chapters This conversation is for you. _______________________________________________ Chapter Markers 00:00 – When success hides silent suffering 01:25 – Introducing David & Tamela Mann 03:59 – Authentic faith vs. church perfection 05:25 – How their friendship turned into marriage 07:58 – Singing together before fame 10:27 – Realizing adulthood and responsibility 14:23 – Falling in love through friendship 16:31 – Childhood trauma and broken homes 17:50 – Dumpster diving and survival 18:53 – Witnessing abuse and learning anger 21:03 – Choosing marriage when divorce felt easier 23:13 – The night the lights were shut off 26:24 – "The knock at the door" — discovering another child 30:02 – Choosing unity over jealousy 33:39 – Feeling alone inside marriage 37:08 – From Kirk Franklin to Tyler Perry 42:36 – When the worst career moment became the best 46:26 – Fame, generosity, and trauma behind the scenes 49:16 – Working together as husband and wife 55:03 – Depression, shame, and suicidal thoughts 58:11 – "Thousands watched me drown" 59:00 – A wife realizing she missed the warning signs 01:01:37 – Therapy, boundaries, and healing 01:04:29 – Faith that carries you through the night 01:06:19 – Music, success, and staying grounded 01:10:48 – Marriage as shared light, not competition 01:14:09 – What's next for David & Tamela 01:16:21 – Final words of hope and grace _______________________________________________ 📱Follow our new instagram! - / deependlecr. . 📱Connect with Lecrae - https://linktr.ee/Lecrae 📮 Join the conversation… Exclusive previews, discounts, bonus content, and more:https://deependwithlecrae.com/ Stream the Album: / reconstruction 👕 Shop Lecrae Merch: https://lecrae.store/

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Lecrae goes fully unfiltered in this episode—breaking down the AI-Christian music debate, the motives behind viral posts, political fatigue, Christian persecution, racialized narratives, and the cost of actually following Jesus when culture co-opts faith for its own agenda. From Forrest Frank's comments… to AI artists… to Epstein files… to Nigeria… to Chicago crime narratives… to why Christianity keeps getting used as a weapon… to Kai Cenat publicly praising Jesus—Lecrae processes it all in real time. No script. No PR filter. Just raw, honest reflection on a chaotic week online. If you've ever wondered "How should a Christian think about all this?"—this episode goes there. Let's go to the Deep End! -------------------- 🚨 LECRAE IS ON HIS LAST TOUR 🚨 GET YOUR TICKETS HERE: https://lecrae.com/tour 📱Follow our new instagram! - https://www.instagram.com/deependlecrae/?hl=en 📱Connect with Lecrae - https://linktr.ee/Lecrae 📮 Join the conversation… Exclusive previews, discounts, bonus content, and more: https://deependwithlecrae.com/ Stream the Album: https://music.apple.com/us/album/reconstruction/1828052699 👕 Shop Lecrae Merch: https://lecrae.store/ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode, Lecrae sits down with the one-and-only KevOnStage for a raw, hilarious, surprisingly vulnerable conversation about fame, faith, Hollywood, fatherhood, grief, marriage, ambition, and what it means to stay grounded when the whole world has an opinion about your life. Kev opens up about the early days of his career, why contentment matters more than clout, the pressure of being a public Christian on the internet, and how he learned to stop defending himself to strangers. He talks navigating Hollywood without losing his convictions, dealing with public grief, raising kids while staying sane, and why laughter has become a form of healing after losing his brother. They unpack the Den of Kings tension with NLE Choppa and Jonathan Majors, the viral Ray J back-smack moment, growing up churchy with no real guidance, and why so many Christians privately break the rules they publicly preach. Kev also shares behind-the-scenes of Churchy, his new show Safe Space, and how marriage, purpose, and heartbreak have shaped the art he makes today. If you love honest conversation, cultural insight, deep faith reflections, or you just want to laugh until you cry…this one is special. --------------------- 🚨 LECRAE IS GOING ON TOUR 🚨 GET YOUR TICKETS HERE: https://lecrae.com/tour 📱Follow our new instagram! - https://www.instagram.com/deependlecrae/?locale=en_US%2Cen_US 📱Connect with Lecrae - https://linktr See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

If my son or daughter came to me and said, "Dad, I'm thinking about joining a fraternity or sorority," I'd probably say no, but not for the reasons you think. In this episode, I share my own story of pledging Kappa Alpha Psi, why I joined, why I left, and how my perspective has changed over the years. I've seen people go back and forth for decades about whether Christians should denounce Black Greek life. Some call it idolatry; others call it community. I've lived both sides of it. We talk about the real history behind these organizations, why fear often drives the conversation, and what the Bible actually says about things like oaths, culture, and conscience. This isn't about picking sides, it's about being consistent and letting your faith lead your decisions instead of fear. Whether you've pledged, denounced, or just don't get the hype, I think this will give you something to think about. Let's go to the Deep End! --------------------- 📱Follow our new instagram! - https://www.instagram.com/deependlecrae/?locale=en_US%2Cen_US 📱Connect with Lecrae - https://linktr.ee/Lecrae 📮 Join the conversation… Exclusive previews, discounts, bonus content, and more: https://deependwithlecrae.com/ Listen to "Heaven Sent" our now on all platforms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdUIUlPaG9k 👕 Shop Lecrae Merch: https://lecrae.store/ To watch my show early each week, download the B-side app for free! 📱 B-side for iPhone https://apps.apple.com/us/app/b-side-app/id6469474522 📱B-side for Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bsideapp&hl=en_US&pli=1 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dr. Tony Evans sits down with Lecrae for one of his most powerful and personal interviews yet. From growing up in Baltimore to becoming one of the most influential pastors of our time, Dr. Evans opens up about his father's radical transformation, his journey as one of the first Black students at Dallas Theological Seminary, and how he built Oak Cliff Bible Fellowship. They dive deep into the tensions of race, theology, and unity in the church, the hidden cost of leading a megachurch, raising godly kids in the public eye, and what spiritual warfare really looks like behind the scenes. Dr. Evans also shares how he navigated profound grief and loss, what it means to trust God in the dark, and the legacy he hopes to leave behind. This conversation is a masterclass in faith, leadership, and resilience — with timeless wisdom for anyone navigating pain, calling, or cultural chaos. Watch this episode to hear: – How Tony Evans' father's conversion changed their family forever – What it was like being one of the first Black seminarians in Dallas – The hidden spiritual battles behind leadership and ministry – How to raise a godly family in a glass house – Why unity in the church reveals the glory of God 🎧 Listen to The Deep End on all platforms 📖 Explore Tony Evans' books and resources: https://tonyevans.org 👑 Follow Lecrae and The Deep End for more conversations that go beneath the surface. --------------------- 🚨 LECRAE IS GOING ON TOUR 🚨 GET YOUR TICKETS HERE: https://lecrae.com/tour 📱Follow our new instagram! - https://www.instagram.com/deependlecrae/?locale=en_US%2Cen_US 📱Connect with Lecrae - https://linktr.ee/Lecrae 📮 Join the conversation… Exclusive previews, discounts, bonus content, and more: https://deependwithlecrae.com/ Pre Save the album: https://music.apple.com/us/album/reconstruction/1828052699 👕 Shop Lecrae Merch: https://lecrae.store/ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.