The economics pushing AI toward open models

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Jeff Morgan discusses the shift towards open AI models and their implications for enterprises and developers.

AI's next power shift isn't gonna happen in a data center. In this episode of The Deep View Conversations, we sat down with Jeff Morgan, co-founder and CEO of Ollama, to explore why open models are gaining momentum, and why enterprises and developers increasingly want more control over their AI. Morgan explains how Ollama grew from a two-week experiment into software used across 80% of the Fortune 500, how the economics of coding agents are pushing teams toward open models, and why cost, privacy and control are becoming decisive advantages. He also breaks down the hardware shift bringing data-center-class AI workloads to Apple silicon, Nvidia DGX Spark and systems powered by AMD, Intel and Qualcomm. The conversation also covers: • How the team behind Docker Desktop came to build Ollama • Why open models could soon process the majority of enterprise AI tokens • The role of harnesses, tool calling, routing and subagents • How Ollama fits into the open-source AI stack and where its business model comes in • Why new US and European open-model labs are emerging • Why companies may need to own and customize their intelligence layer If you’re interested in open models, coding agents…

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Host: The Deep View

Guest: Jeff Morgan

Topics covered

• AI
• open models
• enterprise AI
• coding agents
• hardware shift
• local systems

Keywords

• open models
• AI economics
• enterprise AI
• Ollama
• Docker Desktop
• data center
• local AI systems
• hardware shift
• coding agents

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Ollama, Docker Desktop, Apple, Nvidia, AMD, Intel, Qualcomm, Fortune 500

Places: US, Europe

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