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Building Trust, One Conversation at a Time: Inside the Green Bench Documentary
May 12, 2026
48m 40s
Special Edition: Shift the Narrative — Real Stories, Real Families, Real Senior Living
May 5, 2026
17m 14s
Earning Trust During the Decision: Navigating Senior Living Options
Apr 28, 2026
40m 31s
Mystery Shops Don’t Lie: What the Data Says About Your Sales Experience
Apr 14, 2026
1h 00m 13s
Data Beyond Clicks: Paid Media Best Practices That Drive Qualified Leads
Mar 31, 2026
36m 52s
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| 5/12/26 | ![]() Building Trust, One Conversation at a Time: Inside the Green Bench Documentary | In this powerful episode of On the Move in Senior Living Marketing, Larry Williams sits down with Brad Bushby, Vice President of Sales and Marketing at Schlegel Villages and executive producer of The Green Bench documentary. What started as a celebration of the Green Bench Program’s 10-year anniversary became something far greater: a deeply moving documentary about trust, human connection, storytelling, and the wisdom that comes from truly listening to older adults. Brad shares the inspiration behind the film, which follows residents as they revisit meaningful places from their past, reconnect with lifelong memories, and engage in heartfelt conversations that reveal the beauty, heartbreak, humor, and resilience that define a life well lived. Together, Larry and Brad unpack why authentic storytelling matters more than ever in senior living—and how building trust often begins with something as simple as sitting down and listening. The conversation explores: The emotional journey behind creating The Green Bench documentary How authentic resident stories can transform senior living marketing Why storytelling builds deeper trust with families and prospects The importance of vulnerability, empathy, and human connection How communities can move beyond features and amenities to showcase real life The growing “Green Bench” movement and its impact on the industry More than a conversation about marketing, this episode is a reminder that every resident has a story worth hearing, and that trust is built one meaningful conversation at a time. Brad Bushby Linkedin Page The Green Bench Film - Official Trailer | 48m 40s | ||||||
| 5/5/26 | ![]() Special Edition: Shift the Narrative — Real Stories, Real Families, Real Senior Living | In this special edition of With the Move, we’re proud to be part of the Shift the Narrative campaign, an initiative focused on redefining how people see and understand senior living. Larry sits down with Sarah Robertson (CEO of The Arbors & The Ivy), Bri LaChapelle (Digital Marketing Specialist), and Ally Montemagni (Founder of Free Tide Creative) to explore how authentic storytelling, data-driven marketing, and meaningful partnerships are changing the conversation around aging and care. From a chance meeting at a conference to a deeply intentional partnership, this episode dives into how The Arbors & Ivy is blending strategy and heart, leveraging SEO, paid media, and powerful resident stories to build trust with families at every stage of their journey. You’ll hear: How storytelling brings the senior living experience to life Why authenticity and empathy are critical in today’s marketing The role of education in supporting the “sandwich generation” How aligning marketing across channels creates real impact Why the industry must move beyond outdated perceptions of senior living At its core, this conversation is about more than marketing; it’s about connection, trust, and reshaping the future of senior care. https://www.linkedin.com/in/ally-montemagni-5485401b/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/sara-robertson-5b876311a/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/briana-lachappelle-cdp-430b14105/ https://arborsassistedliving.com/ https://www.freetidecreative.com/ | 17m 14s | ||||||
| 4/28/26 | ![]() Earning Trust During the Decision: Navigating Senior Living Options | In this episode of The Move In Senior Living Podcast, host Larry Williams explores the trust gap in senior living with Katharine Ross, the president of Seniors Guide. The conversation emphasizes the importance of authentic information, transparency, and community stories to help families make confident decisions for themselves or their loved ones when choosing a senior living and care transition. Ross discusses evolving consumer perceptions, the power of content, and the initiatives she supports to shift the narrative in senior living marketing. https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharine-ross-rms-seniorsguide/ https://partners.seniorsguide.com/ | 40m 31s | ||||||
| 4/14/26 | ![]() Mystery Shops Don’t Lie: What the Data Says About Your Sales Experience | In this episode of The Move In Senior Living Podcast, Amy McKinley and Libby Lauer of Senior Source Consulting Group explore how small, often overlooked human moments can significantly impact occupancy rates and overall community success. The conversation emphasizes that blind spots are usually revealed by outside experts conducting mystery shopping, helping operators identify gaps in resident experience and communication that everyday internal reviews might miss. Amy and Libby highlight that the most effective improvements often stem from simple tweaks, such as enhancing website messaging, personalizing tours, and training staff to be more curious and engaged, that cost little but yield big results. We discuss the importance of data-driven insights transforming into meaningful conversations, especially in a sector where human connection is key. The episode offers practical strategies for senior living operators to uncover their blind spots, leverage customer journey audits, and use data to tailor experiences that resonate deeply with consumers. Amy and Libby also share their journey of building a consulting firm dedicated to helping communities showcase their strengths, emphasizing the power of humility, openness, and active listening in achieving operational excellence. https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-mckinley-72b33243/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/libby-l-lauer-ms-427b2a17/ https://www.seniorsourceconsulting.com/ | 1h 00m 13s | ||||||
| 3/31/26 | ![]() Data Beyond Clicks: Paid Media Best Practices That Drive Qualified Leads | In this episode of The Move In, Larry Williams talks with Jeff Steblea, VP of Growth Solutions at Unlock Health, about how senior living marketers can get more from paid media by focusing on what actually drives results. Jeff breaks down why success starts with clear goals, not vanity metrics, and why cost per lead, landing page strategy, negative keywords, and strong follow-up systems are essential to turning paid search into real growth. They also explore how paid and organic search can work together, and why paid search may become even more valuable in an AI-driven landscape. If you want to improve lead quality, prove ROI, and make smarter paid media decisions, this episode is for you. https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteblea/ https://unlockhealth.com/ | 36m 52s | ||||||
| 3/17/26 | ![]() The Engagement Data Powering Senior Living Conversions | In a world of AI, automation, and generic follow-ups, what actually builds trust in senior living sales? In this episode of The Move In, Larry Williams sits down with Christie Freeze of SalesMail to explore why the future of sales remains deeply human and how personalized video is helping teams build faster, stronger connections with prospects and families. Drawing from real engagement data, Larry and Christie unpack what “speed to trust” really means and why it matters more than ever. They discuss how personalized video follow-ups can increase close rates, how pre-tour reminder videos can reduce no-shows by up to 60%, and why intentional, human communication helps families feel more confident throughout the decision-making journey. The conversation also dives into the power of showing, not just telling. From day-in-the-life storytelling to virtual walkthroughs and post-tour recaps, Christie shares how video can help senior living operators shift the narrative, reduce fear, and create a more personal experience at every stage of the sales process. Whether you’re a sales counselor, marketer, or operator, this episode offers practical ideas for using video to build trust, improve follow-up, and create more meaningful connections with the families you serve. In this episode, you’ll learn: Why “speed to trust” may matter more than speed to lead How personalized video follow-ups can improve deposits and close rates Why pre-tour videos help reduce anxiety and lower no-show rates How to use video to show the senior living experience, not just describe it Simple ways sales teams can build confidence and consistency on camera https://www.linkedin.com/in/christiefreeze/ https://www.salesmail.com/ Connection Report | 45m 57s | ||||||
| 3/3/26 | ![]() Inside the 2026 Senior Living Marketing Survey Report | In this conversation, industry leaders discuss the findings of Unlock Health's 2026 Senior Living Marketing Survey, emphasizing the need for intentional marketing strategies amidst rising competition. Larry Williams is joined by Jodi Langhorst, senior director of sales at Generations, and Thomas Cloutier, a seasoned marketing, sales and operations leader in the industry. They explore the importance of customer experience, brand awareness, and the evolving landscape of marketing tools. The discussion highlights the significance of personal stories, empathy in sales, and the role of referrals in driving success. As the industry faces budget constraints, the focus shifts towards optimizing marketing spend and enhancing the sales experience to foster meaningful connections with prospects. https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-cloutier-595b778b/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodi-langhorst-mba-aa1a3525/ https://unlockhealth.com/resources/reports/2026-senior-living-marketing-survey-report/ | 43m 30s | ||||||
| 2/17/26 | ![]() Senior Living Decisions in 2025: What the Data Tells Us | In this episode of The Move In, Maggie Seybold from WelcomeHome Software joins me to unpack the biggest takeaways from the 2025 Year in Review for senior living marketing. We dive into what’s really driving occupancy growth right now, and why the most successful operators are shifting from reactive tactics to intentional, data-informed sales and marketing strategies. Maggie shares insights on the growing importance of memory care, how digital search behavior continues to evolve (including the impact of AI-driven search), and why alignment between sales and operations is no longer optional; it’s essential. If you’re looking to sharpen your strategy, better leverage your data, and create a more seamless experience for prospects and families, this conversation is packed with practical insights you can apply immediately. https://www.linkedin.com/in/maggie-seybold-5bb415126/ http://www.welcomehomesoftware.com https://info.welcomehomesoftware.com/seniorcareinsights | 39m 52s | ||||||
| 2/3/26 | ![]() What a Real Senior Living Shopping Experience Teaches Marketers | In this episode, Jason Falls shares his personal journey of searching for a senior living community for his father, highlighting the emotional challenges and insights he gained along the way. This conversation emphasizes the importance of personal connections, pricing transparency, and marketing strategies that resonate with families navigating these decisions. Falls+Partners - https://fallspartners.comMarketing Podcast Network - https://marketingpodcasts.netTravel & Cruise Industry News - https://youtube.com/@chilliescruises | 45m 53s | ||||||
| 1/20/26 | ![]() The Move-In Evolves: A Series-Driven Vision for 2026 | As The Move-In heads into 2026, host Larry Williams hits pause to reflect on what last year’s conversations revealed, and how those insights are shaping the future of the podcast. In this reset episode, Larry shares why The Move-In is evolving from standalone conversations into a more intentional, series-based format, designed to help senior living marketing and sales professionals navigate what’s next with greater clarity and purpose. Drawing from the themes that consistently surfaced in 2025, he outlines the five core pillars that will guide the podcast in 2026: · Data insights · Trust · Empathy and value · Alignment · Shared learning Larry also explains the shift to a bi-weekly cadence, the rationale for prioritizing depth over volume, and how upcoming conversations will better connect marketing, sales, and operations across the full resident and family journey, from first touch through move-in and beyond. The episode closes with a preview of what’s ahead, including a level-set conversation featuring a first-person family experience navigating senior living, and the return of on-site conversations at the 2026 SMASH Conference. Whether you’ve been with The Move-In since the beginning or you’re just tuning in, this episode sets the stage for a more focused, intentional, and human-centered year of conversations. https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/the-move-in-senior-living-marketing | 12m 45s | ||||||
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| 1/6/26 | ![]() What Senior Living Marketing Taught Us in 2025, and How to Win in 2026 with Eric Varin | In this episode, Eric Varin, Vice President of Sales and Marketing at Grand Living, joins the conversation to unpack how senior living marketing is changing, and what leaders need to do next. Eric shares why authenticity and transparency matter more than ever, how video has become a critical trust-building tool, and what shifting consumer behavior means for sales and marketing teams. Eric and Larry explore the realities of 2025, including the growing influence of AI, evolving buyer expectations, and the pressure to stand out in a crowded market. Eric also offers practical insights on how operators can prepare for 2026 by doubling down on human connection, aligning sales and marketing, and implementing strategies that actually move prospects forward. https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-varin-mba-98a94633/ | 38m 32s | ||||||
| 12/22/25 | ![]() Conversations that Moved Me: Reflections from a Year of The Move In with Guest Host Greg Anderson | In this special year-end conversation, Guest host Greg Anderson interviews regular host Larry Williams as he reflects on the insights gained from hosting 50 episodes of the Move In Senior Living Marketing podcast. They discuss the evolving landscape of sales and marketing in senior living, emphasizing the importance of a unified approach, understanding the modern customer, leveraging AI and data, and the significance of authentic storytelling. They also examine the challenges presented by national lead aggregators and offer insights into future industry trends. | 55m 04s | ||||||
| 12/17/25 | ![]() From Black Holes to Better Leads: Modernizing Call Tracking with Charlie Scholz | In today’s conversation, recorded at the SMASH conference, Charlie Scholz Senior Director of Marketing at True Connection Communities, brings his agency-honed expertise in digital attribution to spotlight one of the senior living industry’s most overlooked challenges: call tracking. Charlie explains why so many leads disappear at the front desk, how dynamic call tracking and AI-powered call summaries restore visibility, and why senior living must deliver the seamless customer experience that families already expect from every other service in their lives. He also shares the powerful system his team built, CRM-agnostic automation, instant lead creation, OpenAI-enhanced transcripts, Power BI insights, and how it has transformed speed-to-lead and team efficiency across their communities. This episode is all about removing friction, aligning your tech stack, and making a lasting impression during one of the most emotional and pivotal moments in a family’s decision-making journey. We discuss: • Why call tracking is often ignored—and why that must change • How dynamic call tracking works and the importance of UTM data • How AI improves summaries, categorization, and training • How automation prevents lost leads and accelerates speed-to-lead • Practical steps to modernize your tech stack and customer experience https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliescholz/ | 17m 40s | ||||||
| 12/9/25 | ![]() From Mailers to Machine Learning: The Evolution of Senior Living Marketing with Shonia Russelle | In this episode, Shonia Russelle shares her 35-year journey in senior living marketing, emphasizing the importance of embracing change, lifelong learning, and the evolving landscape of marketing strategies. She discusses the balance between traditional and digital marketing, the significance of the prospect's experience, and staying true to one's passion in the industry. https://otterbein.org/ | 13m 19s | ||||||
| 12/2/25 | ![]() Connecting the Dots: Unifying Sales, Marketing, and Data with Sonia Vachon | In this episode, Sonia Vachon of Further delves into the rapidly evolving world of senior living sales and the critical need to break down silos between sales and marketing. She shares why today’s most successful organizations view technology not as a replacement for human connection—but as a powerful tool to amplify it. Sonia unpacks how a unified customer experience, simplified tech stacks, and smarter data use can transform lead management and help teams move faster, together. https://www.linkedin.com/in/sonia-vachon/ https://www.talkfurther.com/ | 14m 44s | ||||||
| 11/25/25 | ![]() How Dynamic Creative Drives Engagement with Pandel Ludwig | In this insightful episode recorded at the SMASH conference, Pandel Ludwig, Director of Marketing at American Senior Communities, takes a deep dive into the evolving world of dynamic creative optimization. Pandel shares how her team is leveraging data, AI, and ever-changing ad formats to connect with audiences more meaningfully, from PPC and Google Gen Ads to Meta campaigns that adapt on the fly. She reveals why one-size-fits-all creative is no longer enough, how dynamic text and multiple ad variations can boost engagement, and why listening to call data offers unexpected marketing insights. The conversation also explores the human side of marketing in senior living: the power of storytelling through resident testimonials, the importance of community connection, and how digital campaigns ultimately drive in-person tours and move-ins. Key Topics: What dynamic creative optimization really means in senior living marketing How to build a “toolbox” of ads that adapt to audience intent Using AI for faster creative production and testing Leveraging call tracking data to improve ad performance Why resident stories and testimonials outperform traditional ads https://www.linkedin.com/in/pandel-ludwig-07212b105/ | 17m 07s | ||||||
| 11/18/25 | ![]() Designing for Today’s Consumer Demands with Heather TerHark | In this episode of With the Move, host Larry Williams sits down with Heather TerHark, Chief Strategy Officer at Vivo Senior Living and a Board Advisor for SMASH, to explore how consumer demand in senior living is rapidly evolving and how providers can keep up. Live from the SMASH conference, Larry and Heather delve into how technology, lifestyle expectations, and generational shifts are transforming what today’s seniors and their families seek in senior living communities. From Wi-Fi-powered streaming and smart home tech to on-demand dining and purpose-driven engagement, Heather shares practical insights into meeting modern expectations while preserving the heart of human connection. They also discuss the importance of creating vibrant, experience-driven communities, where residents aren’t just living, but thriving. Through personal stories, this conversation sheds light on the intersection of innovation, compassion, and the future of senior care. Key Takeaways: Why today’s seniors are more tech-savvy than ever—and how communities can adapt The role of experience in every stage of the customer journey, from lead to move-in How to use technology not just for safety and convenience, but for connection and joy The marketing challenge: showing the world that senior living isn’t a place to go and die—it’s a place to live https://www.linkedin.com/in/heather-terhark-monreal-0642bb23/ https://www.vivaseniorliving.com/ | 24m 41s | ||||||
| 11/11/25 | ![]() Empathy, Trust, and the Art of Letting Go with Matt Paxton | In this episode of The Move In, host Larry Williams sits down with Matt Paxton, one of the nation’s leading cleanout experts, star of Hoarders and Filthy Fortunes, and author of Keep the Memories, Lose the Stuff. Matt shares how his decades of work helping families downsize, declutter, and transition into senior living have revealed a universal truth: it’s never about the stuff, it’s about the stories behind it. From the emotional challenges of letting go to the power of empathy in senior living sales, Matt offers a masterclass on understanding people’s attachments, their trauma, and the healing that can come through compassion and positivity. He opens up about starting Clutter Cleaner with little more than a borrowed car and a dream, how loss shaped his mission to help families, and why he believes positivity is the ultimate currency in business and in life. Whether you’re a senior living professional, a caregiver, or someone facing a major life transition, this conversation will remind you that helping others isn’t about selling—it’s about listening, validating, and meeting people where they are. https://www.linkedin.com/in/iammattpaxton/ https://cluttercleaner.com/ https://go.discovery.com/show/filthy-fortunes-discovery-atve-us Book: Keep the Memories, Lose the Stuff | 31m 04s | ||||||
| 11/4/25 | ![]() How Internal Branding Transformed Culture at Nebraska Medicine with Katie Beach and Frank Lococo | On this episode of The Move In Senior Living Marketing, Larry Williams chats with Katie Beach and Frank Lococo from the University of Nebraska Medicine team. The conversation centers on the importance of authenticity in recruitment and the need to foster a cohesive internal culture at Nebraska Medicine. It emphasizes the importance of delivering on promises made to potential employees and ensuring that their experiences align with the organization's values and culture. | 36m 56s | ||||||
| 10/28/25 | ![]() Data-Backed Decisions: Smarter Marketing in Senior Living with Carsten Ellsworth | In this episode of The Move In, Carsten Ellsworth, Marketing Director at Avista Senior Living, discusses the importance of data in senior living marketing. He emphasizes the need to let data guide storytelling rather than forcing data to fit preconceived narratives. The conversation explores the emotional complexities of the sales cycle in senior living, the role of clean data in making informed marketing decisions, and the integration of technology and AI in marketing strategies. Carsten shares insights on testing hypotheses, maintaining clean data, and the importance of flexibility in marketing approaches. https://www.linkedin.com/in/carstenellsworth/ https://avistaseniorliving.com/ | 35m 04s | ||||||
| 10/21/25 | ![]() Real People, Real Stories: Authentic Marketing in Senior Living with Brad Bushby | In this conversation, Vice President of Sales and Marketing at Schlegel Villages, Brad Bushby, discusses the intersection of technology and authenticity in senior living marketing. He emphasizes the importance of human connection over automation, sharing real stories from residents to build trust and engagement. The discussion also highlights the Green Bench Program, which aims to combat ageism by showcasing the wisdom of elders through storytelling and community engagement. Brad shares insights on how to elevate the industry by collaborating and focusing on the genuine experiences of residents. https://www.linkedin.com/in/brad-bushby-b6685011/ https://elderwisdom.ca/pledge/ https://schlegelvillages.com/about | 53m 47s | ||||||
| 10/14/25 | ![]() Connection Over Content: Turning Social Media into Clients with Brooke Sellas | In this episode, Brooke Sellas explores how social media marketing is shifting from simple content posting to meaningful, two-way conversations. She introduces her CARE framework (Conversations, Acquisition, Retention, and Engagement) as a more innovative approach to measuring ROI and fostering lasting customer relationships. Brooke and Larry delve into why emotional connection and vulnerability are crucial for building authentic brands, and how marketers can leverage social platforms as 24/7 focus groups that foster genuine engagement and trust. Whether you’re leading strategy or managing daily content, this conversation will help you rethink what success looks like on social media and how to humanize your brand in the process. https://www.linkedin.com/in/brookebsellas/ https://bsquared.media/ Social Media CX Podcast | 24m 00s | ||||||
| 10/8/25 | ![]() From Tours to Trust: Modernizing the Sales Journey with Kelly Myers | In this episode, Kelly Myers and Larry Williams discuss the evolving sales process in senior living, emphasizing the importance of clear communication, building trust, and personalizing the sales experience. They explore how technology has changed the landscape, the necessity of active listening, and the impact of jargon on family relationships. The conversation highlights the need for sales professionals to adapt their approaches to meet families where they are, ensuring a compassionate and understanding environment during one of the most emotionally charged decisions of their lives. https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-singleton-myers-a915a87/ https://kjbsalesconsulting.com/ | 49m 33s | ||||||
| 9/30/25 | ![]() Connect, Equip, Stand Out: Team Dementia Training that Builds Trust with Maggie Cattell and Dr Sam Fazio | In this conversation, Maggie Cattell and Dr. Sam Fazio from the Alzheimer's Association discuss the importance of training and resources in dementia care. They emphasize the importance of person-centered care, the role of community engagement, and the significance of establishing trust with families. The discussion covers various programs and recommendations aimed at improving care quality, as well as the importance of leadership in implementing these practices. The conversation underscores the evolving nature of dementia care resources and the necessity for ongoing support and education for healthcare professionals. https://www.linkedin.com/in/macattell/ Alzheimer's Association websitedementia care practice recommendationsessentiALZcurriculum reviewProject ECHO dementia care provider roundtable | 39m 26s | ||||||
| 9/23/25 | ![]() Building a Tribe: The Story of SMASH and the Future of Senior Living Marketing with Bailey Beeken | In this episode of With the Move In, Larry sits down with Bailey Beeken, the Senior Director of SMASH, to explore the latest trends shaping senior living marketing and operations. Together, they unpack key strategies communities can use to build stronger connections with prospects, refine their digital presence, and adapt to an increasingly competitive landscape. Bailey also tells the story of the SMASH conference, how it has grown into the place where senior living marketing and sales leaders come together to learn, share, and shape the future of the field. She highlights the sessions she’s most excited about for 2025, from marketing innovation to leadership development, and explains why these conversations are so pivotal for the industry. Whether leading a community, building a marketing strategy, or looking for fresh inspiration, this episode offers actionable takeaways and a forward-looking perspective. https://www.hmpglobalevents.com/smash https://www.linkedin.com/in/baileybeeken/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/smashconference/ | 37m 40s | ||||||
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