Ep. 4: Tumbleton (with Phoebe Campbell and Writer/Executive Producer David Hancock)

About this episode

Hosts Jason Concepcion and Greta Johnsen discuss the events of season 3 episode 4, featuring insights from guest Phoebe Campbell and writer David Hancock.

Hosts Jason Concepcion and Greta Johnsen break down season 3 episode 4, where war has come to Tumbleton. They then talk with Phoebe Campbell (Lady Rhaena Targaryen) about Rhaena’s dreams for the future, the selfless decision from Daemon in this episode, and the surprisingly similarities between Sheepstealer and their dog Tina. Finally, they sit down with the writer of this episode, Executive Producer David Hancock, to discuss writing this showcase episode for Lord Ormund Hightower and why Rhaenyra should stop reading the comments in King’s Landing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

People in this episode

Hosts: Jason Concepcion, Greta Johnsen

Guests: Phoebe Campbell, David Hancock

Topics covered

• Tumbleton
• war
• dreams
• character decisions
• writing process
• Game of Thrones

Keywords

• Game of Thrones
• Tumbleton
• Phoebe Campbell
• David Hancock
• Rhaena Targaryen
• Daemon
• King’s Landing
• Lord Ormund Hightower
• Rhaenyra

Mentioned in this episode

Books & works: A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, Tumbleton

Places: King’s Landing

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