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“It is so important, and I think most people don’t realize that some of the cancer treatments can actually impair bone health.”—Dr. Stacy DunnBone health doesn’t always get attention until something changes. For many people, especially after cancer treatment, shifts in bone density can happen quietly over time.In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Michelle Niesley sits down with Dr. Stacy Dunn to talk through what supports bone health during and after cancer care.Dr. Dunn shares how treatments like chemotherapy and hormone therapies can influence bone density, sometimes earlier than expected. They discuss how tools like DEXA scans are used to check bone health and why they can be helpful as part of ongoing care.The conversation also covers nutrients that play a role in bone health, including vitamin D, vitamin K2, and magnesium. Rather than focusing on one piece in isolation, they talk about how these work together and why balance matters.Movement is another part of the picture. You’ll hear why resistance training can support bone strength and how it can be worked into everyday routines without needing a full gym setup. Starting small and staying consistent can go a long way.They also walk through a few common areas of confusion, including medications, calcium intake, melatonin, and soy. The goal is to offer context so people can better understand their options and ask informed questions.Throughout the episode, the focus stays on the bigger picture. Bone health connects to nutrition, movement, sleep, and overall well-being, especially during survivorship and long-term care.👉 Learn more about Dr. Stacy Dunn👉 Learn more about Dr. Michelle Niesley👉 Learn more about becoming a co-learner at Riordan ClinicEpisode links and resourcesLearn more about Riordan ClinicExplore integrative oncology servicesListen/Watch more Real Health Podcast episodesDisclaimerThe information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.Topics we explore in this episode includebone health, osteoporosis, osteopenia, cancer survivorship, integrative oncology, vitamin D, vitamin K2, magnesium, DEXA scan, resistance training, lifestyle support, hormone therapy, melatonin, soy and health, functional medicine, integrative health, Riordan Clinic, Real Health Podcast

“We are only going to heal you as fast as your body can allow.” —Dr. Clayton DirPain doesn’t always need more appointments. Sometimes it needs a different approach.In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Drew Rose sits down with Dr. Clayton Dir, Doctor of Physical Therapy and Clinical Director of Natural Wellness Physiotherapy, to talk about what’s missing in many recovery plans and how a more thoughtful, patient-centered approach can change outcomes.👉 Learn more about Natural Wellness Physiotherapy.Dr. Clayton shares how his path through traditional physical therapy led him to rethink the way care is delivered. After seeing patients repeat the same cycles without lasting progress, he began focusing on something simple but often overlooked—taking the time to listen and understand the full picture.The conversation walks through how his clinic approaches care differently. Longer evaluations, one-on-one attention, and a process built around reset, restore, and reload give the body time to respond and rebuild.You’ll hear how many cases that seem complicated at first come down to things that were never addressed—movement patterns, muscle imbalances, or habits that quietly hold people back from healing.They also talk through the role of daily life in recovery. Sleep, nutrition, stress, and consistency all shape how the body responds. When those pieces are supported, progress tends to follow.The episode also highlights the connection between clinics like Natural Wellness Physiotherapy and Riordan Clinic. When care is shared across providers and approached as a team effort, it creates more opportunities for people to find answers and move forward with confidence.👉 Learn more about becoming a co-learner at Riordan Clinic.✨ Riordan Clinic is celebrating 50 years of care at the upcoming Pearls & Purpose Gala. This evening brings together community, research, and the future of care. Reserve your seat!Episode links and resourcesExplore Natural Wellness PhysiotherapyFollow Dr. Clayton Dir on InstagramFollow Natural Wellness Physiotherapy on InstagramFollow Natural Wellness Physiotherapy on FacebookSubscribe to Natural Wellness Physio on YouTubeLearn more about Dr. Drew RoseExplore integrative services at Riordan ClinicLearn more about HOT UBI TherapyListen/Watch more Real Health Podcast episodesDisclaimerThe information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.Topics we explore in this episode include:physical therapy, chronic pain support, root cause approach, integrative care, functional medicine, lifestyle and recovery, sleep and healing, stress and health, dry needling, manual therapy, patient-centered care, interdisciplinary healthcare, Natural Wellness Physiotherapy, Dr. Clayton Dir, Riordan Clinic, Real Health Podcast

"You can have two people with the same diagnosis and completely different plans." —Dr. Stacy DunnWorld Health Day is a reminder to step back and look at the full picture of health beyond a diagnosis.In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Michelle Niesley sits down with Dr. Stacy Dunn to talk about integrative oncology and how it’s practiced at Riordan Clinic.If you’ve ever wondered what integrative oncology actually means, this conversation gives a clear look at how it works in a clinical setting. Integrative oncology is an approach to cancer care that works alongside conventional treatment. It uses lab testing, clinical insight, and supportive therapies to help guide care, with a focus on coordination, safety, and understanding what may be contributing to each individual case.Dr. Dunn walks through how testing is used to guide decisions. Nutrient levels, inflammation, blood sugar regulation, immune function, and toxic burden are all considered. These results help guide where to focus next. Two people with the same diagnosis may move forward with very different plans based on what their bodies are showing.They also talk about the foundation—nutrition, sleep, and stress—and how those patterns can affect how someone feels day to day.You’ll hear how therapies like intravenous vitamin C are used as part of an individualized approach, along with why supplement quality and sourcing matter. The conversation also covers common questions, including how to navigate conversations with oncologists and how to sort through different options without feeling overwhelmed.👉 Learn more about integrative oncology at Riordan Clinic✨ Riordan Clinic is also celebrating 50 years of care at the upcoming Pearls & Purpose Gala. This evening brings together community, research, and the future of care. Reserve your seat!Episode links and resourcesExplore integrative services at Riordan ClinicBecome a Riordan Clinic co-learnerLearn more about Dr. Stacy DunnLearn more about Dr. Michelle NiesleyReserve your seat at the Pearls & Purpose GalaWatch more Real Health Podcast episodesEpisode chapters00:00 Introduction + podcast disclaimer00:39 Welcome to the Real Health Podcast01:01 What is integrative oncology02:30 Why Riordan expanded into oncology care05:10 Looking beyond a diagnosis08:45 Two patients, two different approaches12:20 The role of testing and personalization16:05 Supporting the whole person during treatment20:10 Navigating conventional + integrative care together24:30 Common misconceptions about integrative oncology28:40 What patients and caregivers are really asking33:15 A more complete picture of care37:50 Final thoughts + what this means for patientsDisclaimerThe information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.Topics we explore in this episode include:integrative oncology, what is integrative oncology, integrative cancer care, individualized cancer care, functional medicine approach to cancer, intravenous vitamin C, nutrition and cancer care, inflammation and cancer, immune function, blood sugar regulation, toxic burden, Riordan Clinic, Real Health Podcast

"We’re moving from reactive care to proactive care." —Dr. Michelle NiesleySome people feel like they’re always reacting to symptoms without really understanding what’s underneath them.In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake sits down with Dr. Michelle Niesley to discuss leadership at Riordan Clinic and what it means to move toward a more proactive approach to care.They talk about how communication across teams shapes the experience for co-learners, and why that matters from the very first call through long-term follow-up. Dr. Niesley also shares her background in integrative oncology and research, and how that perspective helps her see where care can be more connected and more clear.They explore what it looks like to move from a reactive model to a more proactive one—using testing, data, and patterns over time to better understand what each person may need. There’s also a conversation around newer tools, like wearable technology, and how those can help people stay more aware of what’s changing in their bodies day to day.You’ll also hear how the co-learner model shows up in real life. People are asking more questions, looking for clarity, and wanting to be part of the process.As Riordan Clinic looks ahead, the focus is on staying connected to the community, continuing research, and building on what’s already working to support co-learners over time.If you’re exploring integrative medicine or looking for a more personalized way to approach your health, you can learn more or request an appointment at riordanclinic.org.✨ Riordan Clinic is also celebrating 50 years of care at the upcoming Pearls & Purpose Gala. It’s a chance to come together, reflect on where the clinic has been, and support where it’s going. To learn more or reserve your seat, visit gala.riordanclinic.orgMany co-learners start by gathering information and asking questions before deciding what makes sense for them. Conversations like this are meant to support that process.Episode links and resourcesExplore integrative services at Riordan ClinicBecome a new co-learnerLearn more about Dr. Ron HunninghakeLearn more about Dr. Michelle NiesleyReserve your seat at the Pearls & Purpose GalaWatch more Real Health Podcast episodesEpisode chapters00:00 Welcome to the Real Health Podcast00:57 Leadership at Riordan Clinic03:10 Dr. Niesley’s background and research06:45 Transition to CEO role10:05 Building a connected leadership team13:20 Integrative medicine approach16:10 From reactive to proactive care19:05 Role of data and technology in care21:45 Co-learner model and patient engagement23:50 Looking ahead to the future of Riordan ClinicDisclaimerThe information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.Topics we explore in this episode include:integrative medicine leadership, proactive vs reactive care, personalized health approach, co-learner model, functional medicine strategy, healthcare leadership communication, patient-centered care, health data and wearable technology, Riordan Clinic, Real Health Podcast

"If you don’t measure, you’re guessing." —Dr. Ron HunninghakeThis episode is a recording from our February 26, 2026, Lunch & Learn at Riordan Clinic in Wichita.Energy that rises and crashes. Mood changes that feel difficult to explain. Sleep that looks fine on paper but never feels fully restorative. Many people are told their labs are normal, yet they still feel off.This Lunch & Learn is designed for individuals who want a clearer understanding of how hormones and metabolism influence daily vitality.In this session, Dr. Ron Hunninghake and Dr. Drew Rose explore how thyroid patterns, adrenal signaling, insulin dynamics, and nutrient status intersect with energy, mood, and long-term wellness. They discuss why a single lab marker may not always tell the full story and how a more comprehensive review can offer additional context when evaluating metabolic patterns.They also review stress physiology, environmental influences, and the importance of tracking trends over time rather than relying on one isolated result. The emphasis throughout the discussion is on thoughtful measurement, collaborative learning, and individualized decision-making.Learn more about Check Your Health | March 2–13, 2026Available at Wichita and Overland Park locationsEpisode Links and ResourcesExplore integrative services at Riordan ClinicBecome a new co-learnerWatch more Real Health Podcast episodesEpisode Chapters00:00 Welcome and event overview01:18 Why hormones and metabolism matter03:42 Looking beyond a single thyroid marker06:15 Adrenal patterns and stress response08:37 Insulin dynamics and energy regulation10:54 Nutrient status and metabolic support13:22 Environmental and lifestyle considerations15:40 Measurement, monitoring, and next stepsDisclaimerThe information contained in this Lunch & Learn recording and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information shared is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by presenters or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship.Topics we explore in this Lunch & Learn include:hormone health education, thyroid evaluation discussion, adrenal physiology, stress response, insulin dynamics, blood sugar regulation, metabolic health, nutrient testing, laboratory measurement, sleep and energy patterns, integrative health education, Riordan Clinic, Check Your Health

Update (February 25, 2026): Dr. Cynthia Aks is no longer with Riordan Clinic.“Healing involves addressing the whole person — body, mind, and lived experience.” — Dr. Cynthia AksIn this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Ron Hunninghake, MD, welcomes Cynthia Aks, DO, FACOS, ABIHM, to the Riordan Clinic team. A board-certified General Surgeon and Integrative Healthcare Practitioner, Dr. Aks brings more than three decades of experience in breast health, integrative medicine, and whole-person perspectives on care.Dr. Aks shares her professional journey from osteopathic medical training and surgical leadership to her work integrating education, lifestyle considerations, movement, and complementary modalities into oncology and survivorship conversations. She reflects on her pioneering work in breast health innovation, her belief in collaborative, patient-centered relationships, and her interest in helping individuals stay informed and engaged throughout their health journey.Highlights include:→ Dr. Aks’ path from surgery to integrative healthcare perspectives→ How osteopathic philosophy informs her approach to patient care→ Insights from decades specializing in breast disease and oncology settings→ The role of education, lifestyle considerations, and complementary modalities in survivorship discussions→ How ongoing connection and accountability factor into long-term health engagementAbout Cynthia Aks, DO, FACOS, ABIHMDr. Cynthia Aks is a board-certified General Surgeon and Integrative Healthcare Practitioner at Riordan Clinic. She has specialized in breast health since 1997 and is recognized for her role in breast health innovation, including being the first surgeon in Oregon to perform cryoablation for breast cancer. Her background includes leadership of comprehensive breast centers, advanced training in integrative and complementary disciplines, and extensive experience in oncology-focused education and survivorship-oriented care conversations.👉 Learn more about Dr. Cynthia Aks or explore care at Riordan ClinicRead the full Riordan Clinic Welcomes Dr. Cynthia Aks articleEpisode Links & ResourcesWatch the episode on YouTubeExplore integrative services at Riordan ClinicBecome a new co-learnerListen to more episodesEpisode Chapters00:00 Welcome + introducing Dr. Cynthia Aks01:08 Dr. Aks’ medical background and osteopathic training03:54 Specializing in breast health and integrative medicine06:22 Leadership in comprehensive breast centers08:49 Innovation in breast health and cryoablation11:47 Integrative and complementary perspectives on care15:00 Survivorship education and long-term engagement18:42 Holistic philosophy and whole-person considerationsDisclaimerThe information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.Topics we explore in this episode include:osteopathic medicine, integrative healthcare, breast health, survivorship education, oncology care perspectives, patient-centered care, complementary modalities, lifestyle considerations, Riordan Clinic providers, doctor-patient relationship, preventive health

“Every case represents a new pathway to better health.” —Dr. Ron HunninghakeThis episode of the Real Health Podcast looks ahead to the future of integrative care at Riordan Clinic. Dr. Drew Rose and Dr. Ron Hunninghake explore how the clinic is building on 50 years of learning, research, and co-learning to guide the next era of patient support.Dr. Ron reflects on the turning points he has witnessed over his 34 years at the clinic, including early RECNAC research, the evolution of integrative oncology, and the clinic’s long-standing emphasis on laboratory investigation to help individuals understand their own health story. They highlight the importance of curiosity, education, metabolic health awareness, support for chronic illness, and the intentionality that have shaped Riordan Clinic from the beginning.They also discuss the emergence of a new generation of providers and how this team will carry the clinic’s vision forward. Their conversation centers on what sustainable, whole-person care can look like in the future and how Riordan Clinic continues to evolve while remaining grounded in its core principles.Ron Hunninghake, MDDr. Ron Hunninghake is the Chief Medical Officer of Riordan Clinic and has been part of the organization since 1989. Throughout his career, he has championed a patient-centered approach rooted in nutritional science, biochemical individuality, and thoughtful inquiry. Dr. Hunninghake has lectured nationally and internationally on integrative health, the importance of laboratory testing, and the role of education in long-term wellness. His work reflects Riordan Clinic’s commitment to co-learning and whole-person care. Learn more about Dr. RonDrew Rose, DODr. Drew Rose is a physician at Riordan Clinic who brings a background in internal medicine and Osteopathic Manipulative Medicine (OMM) to his work with co-learners. His approach integrates structural assessment, lifestyle guidance, and preventive thinking to support individualized care. Dr. Drew is committed to helping individuals understand their health patterns, build resilience, and participate actively in their healing journey. His work reflects the clinic’s emphasis on partnership, education, and whole-person wellness. Learn more about Dr. DrewEpisode Links and ResourcesExplore integrative health services at Riordan ClinicBegin your journey as a new co-learnerListen to more episodes of the Real Health PodcastEpisode Chapters00:00 Welcome00:57 Introducing the conversation02:05 Highlights from 34 years at Riordan Clinic03:02 Early RECNAC research and growing visibility05:10 How lab testing supports individualized care08:44 The evolution of integrative oncology10:30 The next generation of Riordan Clinic providers12:23 The importance of co-learning and connection15:35 Emerging needs in metabolic and chronic illness support17:24 Understanding the long-term impact of prolonged illness19:15 Imagining the next 50 years of integrative health21:56 The role of preventive and whole-person perspectives24:04 Closing reflectionsDisclaimerThe information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.Topics covered in this episode:integrative health, co-learning, Riordan Clinic future, RECNAC research, integrative oncology, metabolic health, chronic illness, long COVID, laboratory investigation, preventive care, patient partnership, Kansas integrative medicine, Wichita health community, whole-person perspectives, root-cause inquiry, provider education

“OMM helps us look beyond the place where pain shows up and understand what may be contributing to it.” —Dr. Drew RoseIn this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Ron Hunninghake, MD, sits down with Drew Rose, DO, to explore how Osteopathic Manipulative Medicine (OMM) offers a hands-on way of understanding the body’s structure and movement patterns. Dr. Drew explains how structure and function are interconnected, why touch can offer insight that standard testing may not provide, and how OMM can be used as part of an individualized approach for people navigating chronic pain, headaches, fatigue, inflammatory conditions, COPD, fibromyalgia, and other complex concerns.He also shares lessons from his years practicing hospital and ICU medicine, including why one-size-fits-all care often falls short—and how osteopathic principles offer a deeper perspective on what the body may be signaling.Highlights include:→ What OMM is and how it differs from chiropractic care→ Why osteopathic medicine focuses on structure and function→ How foot and gait mechanics can influence low back pain→ What NASA research revealed about cranial motion→ How hands-on assessment can offer a different perspective than imaging alone→ Using OMM within individualized care for chronic and complex concerns→ The role of lymphatic flow, fascia, and subtle motion→ How OMM complements the Riordan Clinic approach to whole-person careAbout Drew Rose, DODrew Rose, DO, is an internal medicine physician with advanced training in Osteopathic Manipulative Medicine. Before joining Riordan Clinic, he spent six years practicing hospital and ICU medicine in Kansas. He brings a whole-person, hands-on approach to patient care, integrating structural evaluation, osteopathic principles, and nutritional insights to support alignment, mobility, and overall well-being. Learn more about Dr. Drew or schedule a new patient appointment.Episode Links & ResourcesLearn more about the Riordan ClinicListen to more episodes of the Real Health PodcastEpisode Chapters00:00 Welcome + introducing OMM01:10 MD vs DO vs chiropractic training02:46 Structure, function, and whole-body evaluation04:18 Low back pain and the kinetic chain06:01 Foot mechanics and alignment07:34 Cranial motion, NASA research, and headaches10:14 OMM and migraines12:19 Foundational osteopathic principles14:11 OMM in chronic and complex experience17:22 Nervous system sensitization and subtle motion20:05 Individualized care in hospital medicine22:12 How OMM complements whole-person careDisclaimerThe information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.Topics we explore in this episode:osteopathic medicine, OMM, osteopathic manipulative medicine, cranial motion, cranial rhythmic impulse, chronic pain, migraines, headaches, low back pain, gait mechanics, kinetic chain, lymphatic flow, fascia, COPD, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, integrative medicine, functional medicine, hands-on medicine, individualized care, whole-person health, Riordan Clinic providers, structural alignment, root-cause perspective

“When you understand the why behind illness, that’s when healing truly begins.” —Dr. Michelle NiesleyIn this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake is joined by Michelle Niesley, ND, MS, FABNO—Chief Executive Officer of Riordan Clinic, clinical research, and naturopathic doctor specializing in integrative oncology—to explore how science, compassion, and curiosity come together in modern medicine.Dr. Niesley shares her path from research to leadership, the Clinic’s 50-year legacy of innovation, and the importance of bridging conventional and integrative care. From terrain-based medicine to whole-brain thinking, this conversation highlights the next chapter of healing at Riordan Clinic.👉 Part of the Cancer Care Reimagined Speaker Series, leading up to Riordan Clinic’s 25th International Conference on Human Functioning: Cancer Care Reimagined this November.Highlights include:→ How Dr. Niesley’s journey from research to leadership is shaping Riordan Clinic’s future→ Why understanding the “why” behind illness transforms care→ The “weed and soil” model of terrain-based oncology→ What whole-brain medicine means for modern healthcare→ How communication and connection empower patients as co-learnersAbout Dr. Michelle NiesleyDr. Michelle Niesley, ND, MS, FABNO is the Chief Executive Officer of Riordan Clinic. She earned her Doctorate in Naturopathic Medicine from Bastyr University and a Master’s in Evaluative Clinical Sciences from Dartmouth College, focusing on biostatistics and epidemiology.With more than 20 years of experience in integrative medicine, clinical research, and leadership, Dr. Niesley bridges evidence-based science with a whole-person approach to care. Her work continues to advance Riordan Clinic’s mission to combine research, education, and compassionate medicine that addresses the root causes of illness and fosters real healing.SponsorThis series is made possible by Empower Pharmacy, Platinum Sponsor of the Cancer Care Reimagined Conference. Empower is a national leader in compounding and 503B outsourcing, serving providers and patients in all 50 states with safe, affordable, personalized medications. Guided by the belief that behind every order is a person in need, they bring compassion and innovation to everything they do. Learn more at empowerpharmacy.com.Episode Links & ResourcesWatch this episode on YouTubeRegister for the Cancer Care Reimagined ConferenceLearn more about Empower PharmacyExplore the Riordan ClinicListen to more episodes of the Real Health PodcastEpisode Chapters00:00 Welcome + Speaker Series intro01:44 Meet Dr. Michelle Niesley02:28 From naturopathic oncology to CEO04:10 Finding purpose through individualized medicine05:57 The “weed and soil” analogy of terrain-based care07:19 Why she was drawn to Riordan Clinic09:09 The story behind the 25th Conference10:36 Whole-brain medicine and bridging both sides of care13:19 Integrative oncology in mainstream medicine15:51 Empowering patients as co-learners18:05 Building community + innovation between visits19:19 Conference invitation + closing reflectionsTopics we explore in this episode include:integrative oncology, naturopathic doctors who specialize in integrative oncology, terrain-based care, functional medicine, whole-brain medicine, personalized healing, biostatistics and research, individualized treatment, patient empowerment, the future of cancer care, Riordan Clinic leadership, education and research in medicine, and bridging conventional and integrative approachesDisclaimerThe information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

“There’s no wrong medicine — only the wrong time to apply it. The best care happens when every discipline works together for the good of the patient.” —Dr. Paul AndersonIn this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake sits down with Dr. Paul S. Anderson, a leading educator and clinician in integrative and naturopathic medicine. They explore the evolution of integrative oncology — from its early roots in orthomolecular medicine to today’s terrain-based, science-driven approaches that unite conventional and natural therapies.Dr. Anderson shares insights from decades of clinical experience and research, including his work in a US-NIH-funded human trial studying IV and integrative therapies for cancer patients. He discusses how medicine is shifting toward a model that treats the whole person — addressing biochemistry, immunity, environment, and lifestyle — to improve outcomes and quality of life.👉 This conversation is part of the Cancer Care Reimagined Speaker Series, leading up to Riordan Clinic’s Cancer Care Reimagined Conference this November.Highlights include:→ How integrative oncology bridges the gap between conventional and naturopathic medicine→ The growing scientific understanding of tumor microenvironments and “terrain”→ Why quality of life is inseparable from treatment success→ How IV vitamin C and other natural therapies support anti-angiogenesis and recovery→ Why collaboration — not competition — is the future of cancer careAbout Dr. Paul S. AndersonDr. Anderson is a recognized educator and clinician in integrative and naturopathic medicine with a focus on complex infectious, chronic, and oncologic illness. With more than three decades of clinical experience, he also served as head of the interventional arm of a US-NIH-funded human research trial using IV and integrative therapies in cancer patients.He founded Advanced Medical Therapies in Seattle, Washington, a clinic specializing in cancer and chronic diseases, and now collaborates with clinics and hospitals across the U.S. and abroad.Formerly Professor of Pharmacology and Clinical Medicine at Bastyr University and Chief of IV Services for the Bastyr Oncology Research Center, Dr. Anderson is co-author of Outside the Box Cancer Therapies (Hay House) with Dr. Mark Stengler, among other publications. Through his continuing education platform ConsultDrA.com and Advanced Applications in Medical Practice (AAMP) conferences, he brings next-level learning to healthcare professionals worldwide.SponsorThis series is made possible by Empower, the Platinum Sponsor of Cancer Care Reimagined Conference. As a national leader in compounding pharmacy and 503B outsourcing, Empower serves providers and patients across all 50 states with safe, affordable, and personalized medications. Guided by the belief that behind every order is a person in need, they bring compassion and innovation to everything they do. Learn more at empowerpharmacy.com.Episode Links & ResourcesWatch this episode on YouTubeRegister for the Cancer Care Reimagined ConferenceLearn more about Empower PharmacyExplore the Riordan ClinicListen to more episodes of the Real Health PodcastEpisode Chapters00:00 Welcome + introduction to the Speaker Series01:26 Dr. Ron Hunninghake welcomes Dr. Paul Anderson02:53 How integrative oncology has evolved04:57 Patient care beyond the tumor — the role of wellness09:31 The science behind terrain-based oncology12:34 Environmental triggers and rising cancer rates15:18 Returning to fundamentals: lifestyle, sleep, and nutrition16:56 The promise of mistletoe and immune therapies20:39 Collaboration between integrative and conventional oncology21:31 Closing reflections + thank you to Empower PharmacyTopics we explore in this episode include:integrative oncology, cancer care reimagined, Paul Anderson, Ron Hunninghake, naturopathic medicine, IV vitamin C, mistletoe therapy, metabolic medicine, angiogenesis, tumor microenvironment, functional medicine, cancer prevention, terrain-based health, holistic oncology, patient-centered careDisclaimerThe information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

“Toxins are everywhere — in our food, water, and air. They damage our mitochondria, disrupt metabolism, and open the door to disease.” —Dr. Richard ChengIn this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Ron Hunninghake, MD, sits down with Richard Cheng, MD, PhD, ABAARM — physician, researcher, and editor of Orthomolecular Medicine News Service — to explore how environmental toxins and mitochondrial dysfunction are driving today’s rise in chronic illness and cancer.Dr. Cheng shares how decades of research have revealed the link between toxins, aging, and cancer and why supporting mitochondrial health and reducing environmental exposure may be one of the most effective preventive strategies in modern medicine.👉 This conversation is part of the Cancer Care Reimagined Speaker Series, leading up to Riordan Clinic’s Cancer Care Reimagined Conference this November.Highlights include:→ Why environmental toxins are the top global health threat→ How mitochondrial dysfunction connects aging, cancer, and chronic disease→ The overlooked role of heavy metals, seed oils, and ultra-processed foods→ Practical ways to reduce exposure and support detoxification→ How vitamin C protects against oxidative damage and supports cell repairMeet Richard Cheng, MD, PhD, ABAARMDr. Richard Cheng is a physician, researcher, and expert in anti-aging and integrative oncology. He trained in internal medicine in Shanghai before earning his PhD in biochemistry and molecular biology from the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences. He later completed fellowships at the National Cancer Institute (NIH) and the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine (A4M). As editor of the Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, Dr. Cheng advances education and research around nutrient-based and metabolic therapies for cancer prevention and treatment.SponsorThis series is made possible by Empower, the Platinum Sponsor of Cancer Care Reimagined Conference. As a national leader in compounding pharmacy and 503B outsourcing, Empower serves providers and patients across all 50 states with safe, affordable, and personalized medications. Guided by the belief that behind every order is a person in need, they bring compassion and innovation to everything they do. Learn more at empowerpharmacy.com.Episode Links & ResourcesWatch this episode on YouTubeRegister for the Cancer Care Reimagined ConferenceLearn more about Empower PharmacyExplore the Riordan ClinicListen to more episodes of the Real Health PodcastEpisode Chapters00:00 Welcome + intro to the Speaker Series01:44 Dr. Ron Hunninghake welcomes Dr. Richard Cheng03:03 Dr. Cheng’s background and training05:03 Cancer, aging, and mitochondrial function08:29 Environmental toxins and chronic disease13:26 Global rise in early-onset cancer14:18 Ten root drivers of disease16:26 Heavy metals, seed oils, and ultra-processed foods18:35 Microplastics and environmental exposure21:18 Detox strategies and the role of vitamin C24:25 Orthomolecular medicine and cellular repair26:10 Closing thoughts + conference invitationTopics We Explore in This Episode Include:cancer care reimagined, integrative oncology, Richard Cheng, mitochondrial dysfunction, environmental toxins, heavy metals and health, seed oils and oxidative stress, vitamin C therapy, orthomolecular medicine, detox strategies, functional medicine, chronic illness prevention, anti-aging research, Cancer Care Reimagined ConferenceDisclaimerThe information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

"If we can reset the memory of the stem cell back to zero, we can help the body create healthy cells instead of cancer cells." —Dr. Ilyes BaghliIn this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Ron Hunninghake, MD, speaks with Ilyes Baghli, MD, President of the International Society for Orthomolecular Medicine, about his groundbreaking hybrid orthomolecular protocol. From Algeria to Japan, Dr. Baghli has championed integrative and nutritional approaches that target mitochondria, stem cells, and even parasitic pathways to reimagine how cancer can be treated.👉 This conversation is part of the Cancer Care Reimagined Speaker Series, leading up to Riordan Clinic’s Cancer Care Reimagined Conference this November.Highlights include:→ Why mitochondria and stem cells are key in resetting cancer’s progression→ How antiparasitic therapies show promise as anticancer agents→ The role of nutrients like vitamin C, vitamin D, magnesium, and zinc in cellular repair→ How Algeria became a leader in embracing integrative, orthomolecular medicineMeet Ilyes Baghli, MDIlyes Baghli, MD is a physician based in Algiers and the current President of the Dr. Ilyes Baghli is the current President of the International Society for Orthomolecular Medicine (ISOM), a global organization founded in 1973 that promotes research, education, and clinical practice in nutritional and metabolic medicine. He has organized training programs and international collaborations to advance orthomolecular and integrative therapies worldwide. His research and leadership have helped introduce hybrid orthomolecular protocols—combining nutrition, fasting, lifestyle, and repurposed medicines—into academic and clinical practice.SponsorThis series is made possible by Empower, the Platinum Sponsor of Cancer Care Reimagined Conference. As a national leader in compounding pharmacy and 503B outsourcing, Empower serves providers and patients across all 50 states with safe, affordable, and personalized medications. Guided by the belief that behind every order is a person in need, they bring compassion and innovation to everything they do. Learn more at empowerpharmacy.com.Episode Links & ResourcesWatch this episode on YouTubeExplore the International Society for Orthomolecular Medicine (ISOM)Register for the Cancer Care Reimagined ConferenceLearn more about Empower PharmacyExplore the Riordan ClinicListen to more episodes of the Real Health PodcastEpisode Chapters00:00 Welcome + introduction to the speaker series01:44 Introducing Dr. Ilyes Baghli02:34 Early journey into orthomolecular medicine05:55 Building the Algerian Society for Nutrition & Orthomolecular Medicine07:19 Why Algeria embraced integrative therapies14:01 Introducing the hybrid orthomolecular protocol15:16 Targeting mitochondria, stem cells, and cancer memory20:45 Nutrient cofactors and the role of vitamin D, C, zinc, and magnesium26:23 Antiparasitic medicines as anticancer therapies32:33 Diet, fasting, and detoxification in cancer care36:07 Global collaborations and the future of integrative oncologyTopics we explore in this episode include:cancer care reimagined, integrative oncology, orthomolecular medicine, Ilyes Baghli, mitochondria and cancer, stem cell reset, fenbendazole anticancer research, vitamin C cancer therapy, vitamin D and immunity, metabolic theory of cancer, hybrid orthomolecular protocol, Algeria integrative medicine, global oncology collaboration, terrain-based medicineDisclaimerThe information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

“I had a daughter who faced cancer three times. After she died, there was nothing to do but to get on with it, and we’ve been at it ever since.” —Robin DalyIn this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake speaks with Robin Daly, founder and Executive Chair of Yes to Life, the UK’s integrative cancer charity. Born from Robin’s personal journey through his daughter’s illness, Yes to Life has grown into a pioneering organization offering education, resources, and community support for cancer patients navigating integrative options.This conversation is part of the Cancer Care Reimagined Speaker Series, leading up to Riordan Clinic’s Cancer Care Reimagined Conference this November.Highlights include:→ How Robin transformed personal tragedy into a patient-focused movement→ The unique challenges and opportunities of integrative oncology in the UK→ Why community, connection, and group support are as vital as medical care→ How new ideas—including metabolic and fungal theories of cancer—are expanding the future of treatmentMeet Robin DalyRobin Daly is the founder and Executive Chair of Yes to Life, a UK-based charity dedicated to empowering people with cancer to take an active role in their treatment through integrative approaches. Since 2004, Yes to Life has provided education, financial assistance, and community programs, becoming a leading voice for patient advocacy and integrative oncology in the UK and beyond.This series is made possible by Empower, the Platinum Sponsor of Cancer Care Reimagined Conference. As a national leader in compounding pharmacy and 503B outsourcing, Empower serves providers and patients across all 50 states with safe, affordable, and personalized medications. Guided by the belief that behind every order is a person in need, they bring compassion and innovation to everything they do. Learn more at empowerpharmacy.com.Episode Links & ResourcesExplore Yes to Life, the UK’s integrative cancer charityWatch the episode on YouTubeRegister for the Cancer Care Reimagined ConferenceSchedule your Check Your Health lab testing (Sept 15–26)Learn more about Empower PharmacyExplore the Riordan ClinicListen to more episodes of the Real Health PodcastEpisode Chapters00:00 Welcome + introduction to the speaker series01:44 Introducing Robin Daly and Yes to Life02:59 The personal story behind Yes to Life04:49 Closing the gaps in patient support08:18 Helpline, mentoring, and group programs13:54 Integrative cancer care in the UK vs US17:00 Public awareness of lifestyle and cancer risk20:15 Exploring the fungal link to cancer and Mark Lintern’s work27:34 The importance of thinking outside the box30:44 Finding purpose in loss and building a legacyTopics we explore in this episode include:cancer care reimagined, integrative oncology, Yes to Life charity, Robin Daly, cancer patient advocacy, lifestyle and cancer risk, group cancer support, functional medicine cancer treatment, holistic oncology, metabolic theory of cancer, fungal link to cancer, terrain-based medicine, UK healthcare and cancer, cancer prevention strategies, patient empowerment in oncologyDisclaimerThe information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.