The Rest Is Money
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310. Gordon Brown: ‘I’d tell Trump he’s unpopular’
Sep 2, 2026
46m 23s
309. Why we’re wasting our time predicting the future of AI
Aug 30, 2026
45m 39s
308. The 4 challenges (and the biggest opportunity) facing the new PM
Aug 26, 2026
46m 43s
307. The world’s most influential economist: how we can deliver "worker-friendly AI"
Aug 23, 2026
26m 16s
306. The world’s most influential economist: Tax wealth and break up big tech
Aug 19, 2026
32m 13s
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 9/2/26 |  310. Gordon Brown: ‘I’d tell Trump he’s unpopular’ | Former Prime Minister Gordon Brown says fixing broken communities is an economic emergency, but how do we do it? Burnham’s fiscal devolution? Could social impact bonds work? How do we extract more tax from the super wealthy? What about the shattered world order—can that be mended? What would he say to Trump now if he were PM? And as the man who gave independence to the Bank of England, does he think it’s still fit for purpose? Gordon Brown talks to Steph and Robert about his new book, The Future Starts With Us, looking at what needs to happen to rebuild our broken communities and fractured world order. Plus, what this all means for places like Middlesbrough. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain’s smart energy pioneer. Email: the[email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney Advertise with us: [email protected] For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com Video Editor: Lorcan Moullier Producer: Isabelle Bougeard Exec Producers: Bella Soames and Tom Whiter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 46m 23s | ||||||
| 8/30/26 | 309. Why we’re wasting our time predicting the future of AI | Is it possible for us to shape how AI is used rather than have tech firms decide for us? Should the UK government be looking to create our own ChatGPT? Or would open source AI be better for public services? How do we make sure we don’t hand over all our valuable NHS data to a US tech firm? Dr Laura Gilbert CBE – senior director of AI at the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change talks to Steph about why we should stop asking experts to predict the future of AI because they’re rubbish at it. She also argues for a National Open Source AI Lab. Plus, how she saved the government £40 million pounds in half an hour when she was a civil servant. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain’s smart energy pioneer. Email: the[email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney Advertise with us: [email protected] For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com Video Editor: Dylan Bonham Producer: Isabelle Bougeard Exec Producers: Bella Soames and Tom Whiter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 45m 39s | ||||||
| 8/26/26 | 308. The 4 challenges (and the biggest opportunity) facing the new PM | Does Burnham’s government have a credible growth plan? Are the fiscal rules still fit for purpose? How can Whitehall be reformed for the AI age - and who will pay tax if AI leads to widespread job losses? Robert discusses the major challenges facing Burnham and Healey with Lord O’Donnell, former Cabinet Secretary under three British prime ministers. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain’s smart energy pioneer. This episode is brought to you by Accenture. https://Accenture.com/Spotify-UK Email: the[email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney Advertise with us: [email protected] For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com Video Editor: Dylan Bonham Producer: Isabelle Bougeard Exec Producers: Bella Soames and Tom Whiter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 46m 43s | ||||||
| 8/23/26 | 307. The world’s most influential economist: how we can deliver "worker-friendly AI" | How damaging to us is the obsession of Anthropic, Google and Open AI with creating AI super intelligence? How can political leaders set a new path for AI, that would enrich workers rather than replace them? And is the falling birth rate actually good for us? In the second part of Robert’s interview with Nobel prize-winning economist Daron Acemoglu, about his influential new book, “what happened to liberal democracy”, we learn whether AI can be tamed to prevent most of the rewards going to trillionaires. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain’s smart energy pioneer. This episode is brought to you by Accenture. https://Accenture.com/Spotify-UK Buy tickets for The Rest is Fest: https://www.southbankcentre.co.uk/whats-on/the-rest-is-money-live/ Email: the[email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney Advertise with us: [email protected] For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com Video Editor: Dylan Bonham Producer: Isabelle Bougeard Exec Producers: Bella Soames and Tom Whiter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 26m 16s | ||||||
| 8/19/26 | 306. The world’s most influential economist: Tax wealth and break up big tech | How do we revive living standards and restore confidence in liberal democracy? Is the link between productivity and wages permanently broken? What is working-class liberalism? Why should Andy Burnham’s first budget raise taxes on capital while cutting taxes on employment? And why are tech giants like Google and Amazon twice as wealthy as the British Empire at its peak? Robert investigates how to safeguard our way of life with Nobel Prize–winning economist Daron Acemoglu. Together, they discuss whether the prescriptions in Acemoglu's influential new book are practical enough to prevent liberal democracy from eroding further. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain’s smart energy pioneer. This episode is brought to you by Accenture. https://Accenture.com/Spotify-UK Buy tickets for The Rest is Fest: https://www.southbankcentre.co.uk/whats-on/the-rest-is-money-live/ Email: the[email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney Advertise with us: [email protected] For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com Video Editor: Dylan Bonham Producer: Isabelle Bougeard Exec Producers: Bella Soames and Tom Whiter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 32m 13s | ||||||
| 8/16/26 | 305. The Apprentice Unicorn - Euan Blair on rewiring investment and training | Why is it taking so long to get people trained in AI? Should we be devolving education powers to employers instead of Mayors? Is the replacement for the Apprenticeship levy any good? Why is it so hard for companies here to raise money from British investors? Steph talks to Euan Blair, CEO of Multiverse - the UK’s first British EdTech business valued at over a billion - about the future of work. Plus some spicy chat on Multiverse’s Ofsted rating and why Euan’s dad was wrong to push for 50% of young people into university when he was PM. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain’s smart energy pioneer. This episode is brought to you by Accenture. https://Accenture.com/Spotify-UK Email: the[email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney Advertise with us: [email protected] For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com Video Editor: Dylan Bonham Producer: Isabelle Bougeard Exec Producers: Bella Soames and Tom Whiter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 45m 03s | ||||||
| 8/12/26 | 304. Why Burnham’s best economic policy would be “do nothing” | How can the government persuade UK companies and households to invest and spend their record cash holdings? Why is Donald Trump’s unpredictability failing to destroy economic growth? Why is it so difficult to assess whether a lethal AI bubble currently exists? Robert discusses the risks and opportunities in today’s world of extreme financial, technological and political risks with Karen Ward, chief market strategist for JP Morgan in EMEA. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain’s smart energy pioneer. This episode is brought to you by Accenture. https://Accenture.com/Spotify-UK Email: the[email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney Advertise with us: [email protected] For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com Video Editor: Dylan Bonham Producer: Isabelle Bougeard Exec Producers: Bella Soames and Tom Whiter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 49m 55s | ||||||
| 8/9/26 | 303. Why making schools truly comprehensive is vital for our economy | Why do secondary schools fail so many young people? Whose fault is it? What does good vocational education look like? He says the hard hat is just as important as the graduation cap, but does Andy Burnham really get it? With A-Level and GCSE results due out, Steph’s launched a day to celebrate the millions of people getting vocational qualifications. To mark this we take the show to a thriving business in Cornwall to look at how they’re solving their skills problem. Also, Robert and Steph unpick the crisis in British education and come up with bold solutions. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain’s smart energy pioneer. This episode is brought to you by Accenture. https://Accenture.com/Spotify-UK. Email: the[email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney Advertise with us: [email protected] For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com Video Editor: Dylan Bonham Producer: Isabelle Bougeard Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 1h 02m 16s | ||||||
| 8/5/26 | 302. Can the West bridge the gap with China, India and the BRICs+ nations? | How fixable is the schism between the rich developed countries, led by the US, and the faster-growing BRICS+ group, led by China, Russia, and India? Can these emerging powerhouses truly detach themselves from the dollar-dominated financial system? And on which critical issues must we work collaboratively with them to avoid global disaster? Robert and Steph chat with Lord Jim O’Neill, the former Goldman Sachs chief economist who coined the influential BRIC concept 25 years ago. He has recently launched a new strategy platform and think tank, BRICS+ Thinking, designed to encourage pragmatic entente and policy cooperation with these fast-growing, powerful economies. As an influential crossbench peer who also has the ear of Andy Burnham, his views matter. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain’s smart energy pioneer. This episode is brought to you by Accenture. https://Accenture.com/Spotify-UK Email: the[email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney Advertise with us: [email protected] For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com Video Editor: Dylan Bonham Producer: Isabelle Bougeard Exec Producers: Chris Sawyer and Tom Whiter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 38m 23s | ||||||
| 8/2/26 | 301. Why the US won't stop China in the AI race | Are we in an AI bubble? Does it matter that Chinese AI firms are banned from using American chips? How big is the chance of an AI crash? Can an AI business survive without energy generation capabilities? Azeem Azhar – the founder of the leading research platform Exponential View – joins us to tell us about his report on the state of the AI economy. Plus, Robert and Steph find out what Azeem learnt about AI from a visit to a Chinese night club with the Moonshot gang. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain’s smart energy pioneer. This episode is brought to you by Accenture. https://Accenture.com/Spotify-UK Email: the[email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney Advertise with us: [email protected] For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com Video Editor: Dylan Bonham Producer: Isabelle Bougeard Exec Producers: Chris Sawyer and Tom Whiter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 51m 37s | ||||||
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| 7/29/26 |  300. Does Burnham get AI? | What parts of AI does the UK have to control to secure ourselves against enemies? Does Burnham understand how important AI is for growth and security? Are entrepreneurs less welcome in the UK now? Why should the government support a ‘freedom to fail’ funding and business culture? Matt Clifford wrote Starmer’s AI action plan. He is a tech investor and co-founder of the billion dollar business Entrepreneurs First. He talks to Robert and Steph about UK AI policy and chairing the organisation ARIA that hands out government funding for fundamental tech research. Plus find out what re-freezing the arctic has to do with all this. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain’s smart energy pioneer. This episode is brought to you by Accenture. https://Accenture.com/Spotify-UK Email: the[email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney Advertise with us: [email protected] For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com Video Editor: Dylan Bonham Producer: Isabelle Bougeard Exec Producers: Chris Sawyer and Tom Whiter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 42m 53s | ||||||
| 7/27/26 | 299. Trump’s new tariffs - can anyone win a trade war? | How has Donald Trump got away with bringing in new tariffs when the last lot were ruled unlawful? Why is the UK in a worse position than the EU now? Are trade wars always bad? Had anyone ever won one without harming themselves? Are we ever going to get back to free trade? Robert and Steph are joined by economist and FT columnist Soumaya Keynes, self-confessed trade nerd and author of ‘How to win a trade war’ to evaluate the damage from Trump’s new wave of tariffs on 60 countries. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain’s smart energy pioneer. This episode is brought to you by Accenture. https://Accenture.com/Spotify-UK Email: the[email protected]X: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoney Advertise with us: [email protected] For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com Video Editor: Dylan BonhamProducer: Isabelle BougeardExec Producers: Chris Sawyer and Tom Whiter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 46m 46s | ||||||
| 7/21/26 | 298. Why Healey as Chancellor? And can he find the money? | John Healey is the Chancellor to increase defence spending to 3% of GDP, but how will he pay for it? Would war bonds do the trick? Is a cut in electricity VAT and a rise in income tax thresholds helping the right people? What will it take to build enough council houses? With the surprise appointment of former defence secretary John Healey as Burnham's new Chancellor, we look at whether he can revive the UK. Plus Robert and Steph wonder whether the hidden hand of Gordon Brown is behind Healey's appointment. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain’s smart energy pioneer. Email: the[email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney Advertise with us: [email protected] For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com Video Editor: Dylan Bonham Producer: Isabelle Bougeard Exec Producers: Chris Sawyer and Tom Whiter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 41m 54s | ||||||
| 7/19/26 | AI workforcegovernment policy+3 | Simon Johnson | governmentAI Institute | UK | AIworkforce+5 | Octopus Energy | 39m 10s | ||
| 7/15/26 | wealth taxincome inequality+4 | Gary Stevenson | — | — | wealth taxlow income+5 | Octopus Energy | 36m 43s | ||
| 7/12/26 | fiscal devolutionBurnhamomics+4 | Jim O’Neill | Goldman SachsU.K. Treasury | — | Burnhamomicsfiscal devolution+4 | Octopus Energy | 48m 24s | ||
| 7/9/26 | city tradingwealth inequality+3 | Gary Stevenson | How to Get Filthy Rich | BritainChannel 4 | city traderwealth inequality+3 | Octopus Energy | 33m 50s | ||
| 7/5/26 | wealth inequalityeconomics+3 | Simon Johnson | MITIMF | — | wealth inequalityeconomics+5 | Octopus Energy | 38m 12s | ||
| 7/1/26 | economyinvestment+4 | Nigel Wilson | Legal and General | NewcastleManchester+1 | £6 trillioninvestment opportunity+3 | Octopus Energy | 46m 00s | ||
| 6/28/26 | fiscal rulespolitics+3 | Paul Johnson | IFS | — | Burnhamfiscal rules+4 | Octopus Energy | 21m 11s | ||
| 6/24/26 | economysocialism+3 | Paul Johnson | IFS | ManchesterUK+1 | Burnhambusiness friendly socialism+3 | Octopus Energy | 32m 28s | ||
| 6/21/26 | civil servicegovernment efficiency+4 | Stephen Kelly | Sage GroupDavid Cameron’s government | — | civil servantsgovernment+5 | Octopus Energy | 47m 56s | ||
| 6/17/26 | tax dodgingpoliticians+3 | Dan Neidle | — | — | tax returnspoliticians+3 | Octopus Energy | 22m 58s | ||
| 6/14/26 | 287. Dan Neidle: forget wealth taxes, do this instead | Will all the rich people leave if we slap a wealth tax on them? How have plans for a 5% billionaire tax in California gone down? Is tax the best way to redistribute wealth more fairly? Former tax lawyer Dan Neidle is back to tell us why he thinks the theories of influential economists Gabriel Zucman and Thomas Piketty are all pie in the sky. So what would he do instead? Listen to Robert and Steph’s interview with him to find out. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain’s smart energy pioneer. Email: the[email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney Advertise with us: [email protected] For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com Producer: Isabelle Bougeard Video Editor: Dylan Bonham Exec Producers: Chris Sawyer and Tom Whiter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 22m 31s | ||||||
| 6/10/26 | VATbusiness rates+3 | Dan Neidle | Tax Policy AssociatesThe Rest Is Money+1 | — | VAT cutbusiness rates+3 | Octopus Energy | 32m 43s | ||
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Chart history for The Rest Is Money
Peaked at #8 in United Kingdom, top 10 in 2 of 50 tracked markets, currently #8 in United Kingdom.
| Market | Genre | Peak | Current | Trend |
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| United Kingdom | — | #8 | #8 | — |
| HK | — | #8 | #8 | — |
| South Korea | — | #12 | #12 | — |
| Ireland | — | #17 | #17 | — |
| United Kingdom | — | #18 | #18 | — |
| TR | — | #23 | #23 | — |
| Norway | — | #25 | #25 | — |
| AE | — | #25 | #25 | — |
| MY | — | #30 | #30 | — |
| SG | — | #31 | #31 | — |
| TW | — | #39 | #39 | — |
| KE | — | #39 | #39 | — |
| Australia | — | #41 | #41 | — |
| India | — | #47 | #47 | — |
| South Africa | — | #47 | #47 | — |
| New Zealand | — | #50 | #50 | — |
| PT | — | #50 | #50 | — |
| Ireland | — | #59 | #59 | — |
| HK | — | #63 | #63 | — |
| IS | — | #72 | #72 | — |
Chart Positions
50 placements across 36 markets.
Chart Positions
50 placements across 36 markets.