
EP 516 ENCORE: Rethinking Provider Networks - with Scott Smith
From The ShiftShapers Podcast by David Saltzman
December 23, 2025 · 26 min
About this episode
Scott Smith discusses the importance of total value over sticker price in provider networks.
We revisit how PPOs got built on discounts and show why total value beats sticker price. Scott Smith joins us to explain nationally curated high-performance networks that rank providers on effectiveness, appropriateness, and cost, and how that changes renewals, member experience, and fiduciary risk. • why traditional PPO discounts miss total cost of care • how consolidation and narrow networks increase abrasion • claims-based scoring at the provider NPI level • quality metrics that matter: e...
People in this episode
Host: David Saltzman
Guest: Scott Smith
Topics covered
- provider networks
- PPO discounts
- total cost of care
- member experience
- fiduciary risk
Keywords
- PPO
- provider networks
- cost of care
- member experience
- fiduciary risk
- quality metrics
- claims-based scoring
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: PPOs, high-performance networks
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