
EP 518 ENCORE: Quality Without Guesswork - with Kate Grohall
From The ShiftShapers Podcast by David Saltzman
December 16, 2025 · 27 min
About this episode
Kate Grohall discusses how reducing variation in healthcare can create value and improve quality metrics.
We explore how reducing variation in cost, outcomes, and experience creates real value, and why deep provider metrics and real-time member support outperform box-checking credentialing. Kate Grohal shares a playbook for aligning incentives without repeating the mistakes that soured HMOs. • defining quality as reducing variation across cost, outcomes, experience • Kate’s path from patient escort to quality leader • why NCQA alone falls short for measuring provider performance • additional met...
People in this episode
Host: David Saltzman
Guest: Kate Grohall
Topics covered
- quality measurement
- healthcare outcomes
- provider performance
- cost variation
- member support
- HMO history
Keywords
- quality
- healthcare
- variation
- provider metrics
- member support
- HMO
- credentialing
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: NCQA
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