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One of our favourite global fashion icons is making headlines for her "robotic" morning habits, and we need to discuss whether her 6am espresso-and-emails vibe is aspirational or just plain exhausting.We’re also spiralling over a major security breach on a North Carolina film set that has led to "privacy please" being literally written in the sand.Finally, if you're looking for a guilty new pleasure we luxuriate in the rise of a new "sexy stories" platform that is completely flipping the business model for romance and adult entertainment.Love binge-watching TV? The Spill has launched a new podcast called Watch Party where we deep dive into the shows everyone’s talking about. Follow the feed on Apple or Spotify now. Plus remember The Spill drops the tea twice a day in this feed so follow us for all the latest entertainment news… OR you can WATCH our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and enjoy the watch! Link here. 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Executive Producer: Monisha Iswaran Audio & Video Producer: Michael Kean Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast.                                                                                                                   From Mom and Mia. 00:02Speaker 2 Welcome to the Spill your daily pop culture fix. 00:05Speaker 1 I'm m Vernon and. 00:06Speaker 3 I'm Brief Player, executive producer of MoMA MIA's interview podcast No Filter, and former magazine editor. 00:12Speaker 1 We had a full intro. That's that's my intro. That's what I'm told to say. I love that. Well. I know yours is just your name, but you. 00:20Speaker 2 Know what that's because I don't know what's going on for me. 00:23Speaker 3 That is, it's because you are a name. It's because your talented girl too. Oh okay, well player. 00:28Speaker 1 Does stand out. 00:29Speaker 4 Well. 00:29Speaker 2 A name that is missing is LB Laura Brodney. It is she is having some fun with her family and we are holding down the fort LB. 00:38Speaker 1 If you're listening, no you're not. It's fun. We've got this. 00:42Speaker 2 Today on the show, we are going to be talking about a very firm statement a production company has put out towards its fan base of a very cult favorite show and what this means, I guess, for the future of film sets. We're also talking about how a lot of hot men doing a bit of. 01:00Speaker 1 A career turn. We're not complaining, we are, no, we are quite the opposite. 01:06Speaker 2 Really, But first I need to talk about our friend Victoria Beckham, so friend of the show, friend of the show, show of the podcast. So she recently went on Emma Gred's podcast. It's like over an hour long interview. Emma Greed, if you don't know, has developed so many of the Kardashian brands. She's like CEO of Chloe's Jean's brand, she was co founder of Skims. She's very very well known in the girl boss industry. 01:32Speaker 3 The girl is actually such an apt description. 01:36Speaker 1 I love it. 01:37Speaker 2 So Vibi did this interview with her, and there's so many juicy things in it. If you haven't watched her documentary on Netflix, you now don't need to. You just need to listen to this interview because she pretty much covers everything she says in the documentary. 01:51Speaker 1 She talks about her kids. 01:54Speaker 2 You know, when you're watching a YouTube interview and it like has the most replay, it shows you the most replayed moments literally about her talking about her kids and the differences between parenting children versus parenting adults. We've talked about bestie Brooklyn Beckham and everything that's going on between him and his mom. Best friend of the show, best friend of the show. She also talked about the alleged affair. She talked about her company making money, losing money, making money again. 02:20Speaker 3 It's super unusual for Victoria to give a like a big deep dive interview as well, so I think. 02:26Speaker 2 Like girl Boss to girl Boss, felt like it was environment Yeah, but like to be fair, a lot of the stuff she talks about with her company and her both her fashion brand and beauty brand is like really really interesting where she talks about She covered it in the documentary as well, but I guess emm agreed asks those really like kind of personal business se questions where she mixes business questions with lifestyle questions. There is one part of the podcast so that I really want to discuss, yes, and it's the part that no one's really talking about. It's her day in the live. 03:01Speaker 1 It's the highlight of the podcast for me. I just love to know. 03:05Speaker 2 What celebrity millionaires and billionaires are doing every day so I can try to replicate it in my sad little life. 03:12Speaker 3 On weekends, because we have jobs. 03:16Speaker 1 Because we have real jobs, real jobs. Should I take you through it? Yes? Oh please please? Okay, she's almost the weekend. I need to know, we need to. 03:23Speaker 2 Know okay, So she says, we get up every morning, thank God, off to a strong style. 03:31Speaker 1 We get up every single morning. That's crazy. 03:34Speaker 2 We get up every morning and we make Harper breakfast. What I've noticed in this day in the live, she doesn't mention about her own eating habits, because we all know she eats steamed fish and veggies every single day. And I don't think she wants to keep marketing that because I don't think she really wants a fish dealer. 03:49Speaker 1 She doesn't need it, doesn't need, she doesn't need, doesn't need a fish finger. 03:53Speaker 2 So they both make Harper breakfast. She says, if he's not traveling, David does the school run, she goes down to the gym. When she says down to the gym, I'm assuming downstairs. 04:03Speaker 3 And the like, Yeah, I don't think she's like popping going down the road, you know, the local like fitness first, no, non equivalent. 04:09Speaker 2 She's going down to the gym, and she does. Wait for forty five minutes. Then David comes back home, joins her, and then they work out together for another hour. 04:21Speaker 1 Oh, I know they're that couple. 04:23Speaker 2 An hour and forty five minutes every single morning in the gym that's a lot, girl, it's a lot. But she loves doing things with him. 04:29Speaker 1 Yeah, but like there are other things to do. Okay. 04:32Speaker 2 Then she says she goes to the office, which is ten minutes away from where she lives. 04:36Speaker 1 So I'm assuming the same time stamped this, Like, do we know, like when is she rolling into the now? 04:41Speaker 3 She kind of like, so it could be midday because if she's got up, we don't know when she gets up, made Harper breakfast or you know, being present for the breakfast making. 04:51Speaker 1 I can't see. I feel like it's David hands on not. 04:53Speaker 2 I feel like she'll make Harper like a juice and David makes the breakfast. 04:57Speaker 1 We know he cooks. He loves to cook. 04:58Speaker 3 And then like she's an arrow and forty five in the gym, has to shower, get I'm sure like that, you. 05:04Speaker 1 Know, becoming becoming BB. 05:06Speaker 3 Yeah, the day is not a quick time office mid day probably yeah, probably. 05:12Speaker 2 So she says it's only ten minutes away, so I'm assuming, like the same estate. 05:17Speaker 1 I'm assuming it's. 05:18Speaker 2 Like it's just next door, next door, a second home. Yeah, she says she goes in five days a week. Oh, what do we feel about that? Well, she says, I have to be there. It's where like all the ideas get made. There's something about going in every day, and I'm like, this sounds like a CEO who had hybrid working conditions and I told everyone. 05:40Speaker 1 To come here, to come back. 05:41Speaker 3 It's like, yeah, VB at the front line of pushing people back in the office's like, I. 05:45Speaker 1 Love being here all the time. Don't shut up, Phoebe. It's because you get to roll in a mid day. 05:50Speaker 2 Yes, And she says she doesn't travel that much. She only ever goes to New York because beauty. Her beauty brands in New York and her fashion brands in between London and Paris must be nice. 06:00Speaker 3 She has a lot of social engagements too, Like, I don't what she's doing this interview. 06:06Speaker 1 Yeah, on the weekend, probably. 06:09Speaker 2 Probably she's in the office five days with family time, Okay, I guess. 06:13Speaker 1 So. 06:13Speaker 2 She also says at six pm, they are all at home and they all have dinner together, no phones, they just talk about their days. 06:22Speaker 1 I love that. 06:22Speaker 2 Yeah, And she says that we are quite a traditional family. Most people won't believe that, but they are. 06:28Speaker 1 I believe that, but I think that it's ordained, like. 06:34Speaker 3 I don't know if it's well, we actually know for a fact it's not every child's choice to be part of that environment. But I can imagine they have strict rules about dinner together and no phones and yeah, well. 06:46Speaker 2 After everything that happened with like Brooklyn Beckham, I'm sure they are like quite strict parents. She also talked about how her daughter Harper is launching a skincare brand because she says that like her daughter used all of these like different skin cares and ruined her skin, and she wanted to create a really nice collection of like clean skin care for young girls to use, like sure, And I was like sure. I mean, like I'm kids meant to get acne. 07:17Speaker 1 Yeah, it's inevitable. Yeah, but it's good for them. 07:19Speaker 2 It's good for them. But as you know, I didn't really listen to any of that stuff. I was just like, let me know the day in the life. Yea other day in the life, and now we got it. So if you want to know what to do for to be Victoria Beckham, an hour and forty five minutes in the gym every morning. 07:31Speaker 1 That is in your house. Yeah, that's in your house. You have to have the gym in your house, and if. 07:35Speaker 3 You do go to work, it's down the road ten minutes. Yeah, and you're not really doing a commute. You're certainly not on the train. 07:40Speaker 1 You're fine, you'll do it. It's probably in you. I would say it's pretty easy to be VB. 07:44Speaker 3 But I don't know about an hour and forty five minutes in the gym every morning. 07:47Speaker 1 I'll give it a go tomorrow, I'm definitely not. No, I stop at waking up every day. We've got that down. I've got it down. Only five more steps to go. 07:58Speaker 2 So the summer turned pretty You might have heard of it. Yeah, she'll have a little old show. They're currently in the production of making the movie, which is meant to act as like the actual actual series finale. 08:11Speaker 1 Yes, this is it. 08:12Speaker 2 Yes, and they're currently filming. Recently, the production company that's doing so, on my Return, Pretty Amazon. 08:19Speaker 1 Tweeted this. 08:20Speaker 2 They said, we love the excitement, but sharing locations and visiting sets disrupts filming and creates real safety concerns for our cast and crew. We're working hard to create a protective bubble to make the best movie possible. Please help us protect the magic of Cousins. That's the place where it's set, not cousins in general, until it's ready to be shared after that. Jenny Hahn, who wrote the book and is also a big writer of the movie and the show, she also posted when people come to set, film and share videos, it disrupts the work and makes it harder for actors to get into character and causes unnecessary anxiety for them. 08:57Speaker 1 We often have to stop. 08:58Speaker 2 Production to clear crowds from the show, which breaks the crew's focus. This story means a lot to me, and I know it means a lot to you too. I want to give you the best version of this movie. Please help protect our process, right. 09:11Speaker 3 Oh, Look, like fervent fandoms are a double edged sword because like they need that. That's why they have had a successful series. It's why they've got this movie coming out. They wouldn't have that without the fans. And the fans are so so so passionate, and like in my heart, I'm a fangirl, I always will be, and I have so much love for fangirls and boys. 09:32Speaker 1 Yeah, and I just think like. 09:34Speaker 3 The reason why, like they're showing up because they love it so much. They want to be part of that world. And it's like it's super endearing, but I do understand why. You know, it's not necessarily conducive to a good set. 09:47Speaker 2 I think they've also like this set and crew in particular, I've had such like bad luck when it comes to like fans being so intense about the show. Because when I first read this, I was kind of like, I was a bit like boohoo. 09:59Speaker 1 Like, yeah, everyone loves the show. Nice, just be nice. 10:03Speaker 2 But then I remembered when they were filming the series finale of the last season of the summer I turned pretty where Belly goes to Paris, and a lot of it was filmed in Paris. They had to fly Gavin over also who played Jeremiah, even though Jeremiah had no scenes in Paris, because everyone was just so intense and guessing who she would choose, Conrad or Jeremiah. And then around the same time, they were putting out Statesmen saying please stop bullying our cast. 10:29Speaker 1 They're not their characters. 10:31Speaker 2 So they've really been through a lot with their fan base. But it's the same exactly what you said. I feel like if I was like walking around the US or in Europe and I saw that they were filming close to me, I wouldn't want to go. 10:45Speaker 1 Of course, I would want to have a look see. Of course I would take a couple of picks. 10:48Speaker 3 I don't know if I would necessarily share them on social media because that's just not my bag. 10:52Speaker 1 But I would show my friends. Yeah, I'd sit here and talk about it. I would literally talk about it like. 11:00Speaker 3 Yeah, like it's it's even if it's not your absolute favorite show. Like obviously there are people that are going, oh my god, I want to see them up close. Let's plan a trip, and like, you know that is happening. I know that happened a bit on the set of people we meet on vacation. 11:14Speaker 1 Yeah, but the. 11:15Speaker 3 Interactions were actually all really lovely and all the reports were fine, and there wasn't kind of a messaging sent out that I'm aware of that was like, don't do this. 11:23Speaker 1 But you know, fandoms are why a. 11:26Speaker 3 Lot of these projects get off the ground in the first place, especially if they're you know, they're based on a book or whatever, so they come with an inbuilt fan base, and so with that comes like this experience. 11:38Speaker 2 And I do think it's changed a lot as technology has changed. Very true to it, Jenny Hahn said, in her statement that it really disrupts the cast and the crew. Like imagine thinking you're filming a show and now you have like a live studio audience who're just like reacting to everything. Plus with the fans filming stuff and posting it online, it just creates like this bigger, bigger thing where was before It used to be like, oh my god, I was in the background of parks and recreation, did you see me? 12:06Speaker 3 I think, like, I find it frustrating when there's too many clips shared on my like for you page. For you that's it where you're like, I don't want to see it, and it's like, oh, like the way I was tapping interested on stuff when The Devil Wears Prata, like stuff was all coming. 12:22Speaker 2 That literally happened to me when I watched the second movie because I watched it in cinemas after you guys went to the big premiere and I was seeing scenes that I'd already seen on my TikTok. It's annoying, right because everyone was just filming them, yeah. 12:34Speaker 1 Filming the way, walking on the streets and everything. 12:36Speaker 3 But then it's also funny as well because we saw so many stills and footage from that film of Anne Hathaway and Patrick Brammel on the Street. It was so gorgeous and so romantic, and then like that was totally missing from the film. So that's a funny experience as well, because we've all been primed and it's almost like part of the promo. And that's actually really interesting because some productions, yeah, are like if you can't beat them, join them, and they're using it as an opportunity for promo. So we've seen that a lot with like they've been filming and they've wrapped filming now on Sunrise on the Reaping, which is like the next installment of the Hunger Games franchise. It's like the cast were encouraged to show stuff on their own like social media, like let's do it first. Yeah, yeah, so they're like McKenna grace was like all over it, and you know, she's so great on social media anyway. But we got a lot of behind the scenes stuff from that production and the movie doesn't come out till November, but they like really leaned into it and like knew that they had this really really really passionate fan base and so they were like feeding people from the start. 13:41Speaker 1 That's really smart. 13:42Speaker 2 I have a feeling Marvel kind of did the same for the New Spider Man movie because Tom Holland does a lot of his own stunts where they got like fans filming him, like jumping over cars and stuff in New York, and they were sharing those own videos on their own socials. It also really interesting, like can work way that kind of helps the production company or give them ideas. Do you remember when the first stills of It Ends with Us came out? Oh, and we were seeing lively in like those costs, like the most horrendous wardrobe choices, the most mirandous wardrobe choices. 14:19Speaker 3 And then it was just like mass trolling of like this she wearing? 14:25Speaker 1 What is this? 14:25Speaker 2 And then we still saw some quiet questionable efforts in that movie, but like the ones that we saw on des Moir were like not in the movie at all, very similarly love story. What they had as like the dress for Carolyne Bassett, the first. 14:39Speaker 3 First glimpse at both of them, both of them, it was like, that's not how they looked like they were wearing like h and M pieces like it just it wasn't reflective. 14:48Speaker 1 And that's so important, particularly for that story. 14:50Speaker 3 Because they're like, firstly, yeah, he had a lot of money, he dressed really well. He was like stylish and gorgeous and you know, but she was known FIRS style. That was a trademark, so to miss that and even like it was right down to the hair, like that's not what Carolyn's hair looked like, and then they started to change. When the show dropped, it was like it had been absolutely coarse corrected and then they nailed it. 15:14Speaker 1 So it is interesting to see and it must be helpful for them. 15:17Speaker 2 They're getting that live feedback as a film versus when a trailer goes out and then they see all the. 15:22Speaker 3 Feed test audience at the end, so like you can't then go await the wardrobe sucks, Like you can't go and reshoot the entire thing. So that's really yeah, that's been really beneficial for them. I've noticed as well. The next series of AHS has been like teasing so much from behind the scenes they've been doing. So they've got the core cast of Coven back, which is really exciting because like in my be in many people's opinion, Coven was the best season three, right, it was season three, that's like the Witch season that was set in Your Orleans absolutely incredible and like the cast so so stellar. Now, if you remember Jessica Lang, who was in the first maybe I think. 16:04Speaker 1 Five seasons, yes, I think. 16:06Speaker 3 So Dan left and when I said no, I'm done, I'm never going back, right, she was like adamant, like no, no, no, no. 16:14Speaker 1 No, guess who's back? 16:15Speaker 5 Shut up? 16:16Speaker 3 Yes, And it was announced on set like they had her in costume and they were like playing into it and they've been dropping in on st same. 16:24Speaker 1 As Emma Roberts is back. And of course her famous line is, hey, bitch, I bet you thought you saw the last of me. 16:30Speaker 3 So that's how she promo that she was back, which was so cool. 16:34Speaker 1 Oh my god, I love so. 16:36Speaker 3 Fun and like, as a fan of that series, I was so excited to like, it's like playing along from home from the start. 16:42Speaker 1 It also extends their run. It gets people excited from the start. That's so true. 16:46Speaker 2 I was thinking of massive cult shows where everyone's been obsessed with and movies where they had to like go through extra lengths just to make sure nothing's link. And I found this really interesting. Fun facts, fun facts for the girls in Sex and the City. The last episode, Sarah Jessica Parker said, they filmed. 17:05Speaker 1 Three this is traditional tragicity not and just like that. Yeah, okay, great, I'm a purist. I'm glad that we're talking about it. 17:12Speaker 2 So three different ending. So the first ending that we all saw on our screens is she ends up with Big. The second fake ending that they filmed was her coming back to New York alone, and the third one can guess, oh, her ending up with Alexander Petrov's no. No, And she was like, yeah, it was so obvious because they were such bad end. 17:38Speaker 3 Look, the one of her coming back to New York alone would have been nice, would have been like it would proper. Yes, I actually think maybe if the show was set today that she re that's so true. Back then everyone wanted a happy ending and we weren't. You know, the show was already revolutionary enough. 17:54Speaker 1 The people weren't. Back then, everyone was like, what would you do with that? And then yes, we don't understand. I don't understand, but now we know, we now we know. 18:03Speaker 2 Kit Harrington on Game of Throw Yeah said that because all of their scenes were filmed in like rural areas, like in forests and like snowy mountains. 18:12Speaker 1 You're a fan and you tricked out that you know what you deserved exactly? Do you take that video? You tell us what's going on. 18:19Speaker 2 But they said they had paparazzi were coming camouflage with these big with these big lenses, filming them like walking up like because everything in Game of Thrones would have been a leak, because even just seeing two characters together and Game of Thrones would have been a huge league, even seeing a character still alive, a character still alive, like a character who's like never met another character together. So everything was like really high stakes. So he said that they all had to film a certain number of fake scenes, like proper fake scenes that they knew would never I. 18:51Speaker 1 Just think of the money that's being spent, so much. 18:53Speaker 2 Money on production on actors with Game of Thrones. 18:58Speaker 1 What a waste of money because any name, you know what. 19:07Speaker 3 Us, choose your own adventure, release them all and the people can decide how it should have ended. 19:12Speaker 1 Agree. 19:12Speaker 2 Okay, And this is my favorite one in Avengers end Game. So if you haven't watched Endgame, this is going to be a spoiler. 19:20Speaker 1 But come on, it's been years and years. I haven't watched it. I probably never will. 19:24Speaker 2 Okay, well this is not going to be a huge, huge spoiler, but there's a scene where there's a funeral. So, like one of the characters dies and they all go to a funeral. They told Tom Holland and Mark Ruffalo, who are the two cast members known for accidentally leaking stuff. 19:39Speaker 1 Yeah, Tom Holland. 19:41Speaker 2 Tom Holland has given everyone Avenger plots. Yeah, his whole life, that's all he does, Avengers plots. They told the two of them that it was a wedding scene, and then they came dressed thinking they were filming a wedding scene and didn't realize. 19:54Speaker 1 Until they were there that it was a funeral. 19:56Speaker 2 And they still didn't tell them until the movie was released. Oh it was so only Robert Downey Jr. Was the only actor in that whole franchise to get the full script? 20:08Speaker 3 Is that because he was dead, because he whispered into a microphone. 20:13Speaker 1 Because he was dead, because he was don't tell anyone. 20:15Speaker 2 Yeah, so he was the only one. No one else everyone knew like bits and pieces. But Tom Holland literally thought the funeral scene he was filming for did. 20:23Speaker 1 The rest of the cart not realized when he was not there Robert because he also came there. He had to come. 20:32Speaker 3 That's so funny because that's not so much keeping it a secret from the fans. 20:38Speaker 2 Secret from the car so they don't accidentally. So Tom Holland couldn't actually like leak anything because he didn't know. 20:44Speaker 3 I want to know what film or TV set you would cross international date lines to go on stalk if it. 20:51Speaker 2 Was still filming, or if they did like another season or like brought it back to our screens. The Mindy Project, Oh I would, Oh my god, I would honestly get because like her whole thing was like she was a gynocologist, and I would literally get a doctorate and pretend that I'm a guyano and just to get on that set and be like I'm here to advise. I'm here to like, yeah, I'm here to see Mindy Kayling, here for miss Kayling. 21:19Speaker 1 Here for miss Kayling. 21:20Speaker 2 I'm here to advise as the doctor on set. Oh my god, I'd love that. 21:24Speaker 1 What would be yours? 21:25Speaker 6 Oh? 21:25Speaker 1 Look, if I'm looking backwards, it would be fleaback. That's such a good one. I feel like it would be fairly easy as well. 21:32Speaker 3 Yeah, I think so too. That would be pretty easy. Also, I feel like you're like. 21:36Speaker 1 Phoebe bit chill. 21:37Speaker 2 You know, she'd be so be excited to see you, would be I think she'dn't brite you on As a writer, I think so too. 21:42Speaker 1 Yeah, oh my god. And like looking forwards, I reckon that they'll have a bit of travel with the Hated Rivalry set next time. Oh yeah, they are going to have trouble. 21:52Speaker 3 Because if the summer I turned pretty is pulling out the fans for those two boys, imagine. 21:57Speaker 1 Taking it up a notch the Heated rivalry. 21:59Speaker 2 Will you give them so many points? Just film fake scenes, but make sure you release those ones to that. 22:04Speaker 1 Secluded cabin is suddenly going to look like it's got. 22:07Speaker 2 A great It's like, can you just remove the Airbnb signed from the lawn? 22:11Speaker 1 That'd be great. 22:13Speaker 3 Okay, And we have to talk about something that is joked around the Spill team that I have a doctrine in which she's Quinn. 22:20Speaker 1 Are you across Quinn? The app Quinn? 22:23Speaker 4 Oh? 22:23Speaker 1 When you say. 22:24Speaker 2 App Quinn, I am across it. When you just say Quinn general, I'm like, I don't think I met her. 22:30Speaker 1 The app quick Quinn. Yes. It is like audio erotica It is an app. 22:35Speaker 3 I came across it back at my last job when I was at Murray Claire and I was interviewing Thomas Dougherty. So Thomas Doherty you might remember from the reboot of Gossip Girls, and he's more recently and tell me lies. 22:48Speaker 1 Yes, he has a very chiseled jaw. He has a very chiseled jaw. 22:52Speaker 3 And despite the accent that he often sports in his shows, he's not American. 22:57Speaker 1 He's Scottish. So he's got a beautiful, beauty Scottish face. I couldn't get any better. He's got it. 23:03Speaker 3 And so Quinn is an app like you subscribe to. There's audio erotica on there, done by contributors, creators like normal guys out there. 23:13Speaker 1 It's like a sexy, calm app. It is, Yes, it's calm, but instead of falling asleep, you're getting horny. You're getting horned. Yeah, yeah, I like it because I. 23:22Speaker 2 Heard that women are more likely to get off on like audible sound versus visual. 23:30Speaker 3 Well it would seem so, and like I think, you know, that's the problem. A lot of like visual porn is not made for women, it's made for men. So this app, which was actually created by Caroline Spiegel, And if that name sounds familiar, it's because she's the sister of Snapchat creator Evan. 23:45Speaker 1 Oh my gosh, she's like and they're both sibling. 23:49Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, Nepo's sibling. But she's like cooler chica and has created something that's like way better for the. 23:54Speaker 1 Girlies and fun sibling duo. Yeah, which also means that she's sister in law. 24:01Speaker 2 They should do a collab time Snapchat. 24:06Speaker 7 They made share a video. 24:07Speaker 6 I don't know. 24:09Speaker 1 So she's created this space where it is like about women's pleasure, much needed, much needed space where it's the focus. It's like female run, female staffed business. Predominantly most of the background creators on it are female. The voices are predominantly male. There are some female voices on it too, because it's like male for female and female for female. Correct. 24:31Speaker 3 Something that they started doing, as I mentioned with Thomas Doherty, was doing these things they call quinn originals with famous men narrating audio erotica. 24:42Speaker 1 I love that. 24:43Speaker 3 So Thomas Doherty came first, so we have to like thank him because he. 24:52Speaker 1 Led the way. 24:53Speaker 3 And what has followed has been like the most astounding lineup of top tier a War winning, and I'm like, when I say award winning, I mean like, like, these are guys that are like Emmy Golden Globe like nominade winners. So I'm going to run you through the stuff, right, Okay. So there's been Jesse Williams, who, of course like, oh my god, those eyes plays Jackson Avery in Ray's Anatomy speaking of Flea Bag, which we just did Andrew. 25:21Speaker 1 The actors at which is like normal accent, yeah, with his Irish accent. Tom blythe tom blythe Beautiful tom Bly God, so many that we already talked about today. There is is like promo for Sunrise on the Things. 25:36Speaker 3 Yeah, well he's not in that unfortunately, no, because it's set so yeah, so Ray Fines actually plays Snow in that one. Okay, Yeah, so it's it's a bit less sexy because tom blythe isn't in it, but Beautiful tom blythe Chris Brinney from the Summer Return pretty again another thing, yes, so okay, but also not only are they getting these men to do it, they're really explicit like they're not tame, right, They're not. So they're getting them to say yes to it. They're getting them to do it. There's sound effects and everything, and they're. 26:09Speaker 1 Getting them to do it at the exact. 26:11Speaker 3 Time that like their major project is. So when the summertime Pretty season three came out, that's when. 26:18Speaker 1 Chris's episode dropped. Wow, same as like okay, that's smart dropped. Like They're so amazing the way they're able to get them. 26:26Speaker 3 And as someone who like books talent, right, that's my job here, that's what I do for No Filter, I book the talent and when I worked in magazines, I booked the cover star talent. 26:36Speaker 1 Right. 26:36Speaker 3 It is hard, like there is like they have not much time to spare. It is hard to get someone like everyone's chasing them, especially when they're on for like those projects. So it is amazing to me how they've managed to get these guys to do this, which is like quite a hard sell I would imagine at the start. But I think that because of the lineup they've had, it's getting easier and easier because when you look at that roster, if you're like a talent manager and you look and you go, oh Andrew Scott, like wow, he's done this, like you know all of these like amazing actors, then you get more likely to show it and say hey, like. 27:11Speaker 1 Yeah, that's chat you. 27:12Speaker 2 And I also wonder because like Romanticy is like killing it in the genre game right now. 27:19Speaker 3 Funny you mention that because Jesse Williams, yeah, his one is themed around Romanticy still like a. 27:25Speaker 1 Very porn vie. I like that. 27:28Speaker 3 The other guys that have done it who we also just talked about was Connor Story and Hudson Williams stuff. 27:33Speaker 1 They did a series together. Of course they did. Of course they did, because that's. 27:36Speaker 3 What they can't do anything and they can yeah, they can never not do anything together. And there's plays into that same vibe as well. 27:42Speaker 2 Yeah, because it's like every like I mean, I'm a huge Romanticy reader, and like I know that a lot of production companies are thinking about taking these like books that everyone loves to the big screen. Like we know Michael B. Jordan's bought rights of a series that was like the whole room of him, like talking to Yarnha on the red carpet, everyone thinking she's going to be starring in one of his upcoming productions. 28:04Speaker 1 And I think this. 28:05Speaker 2 Is such a good opportunity for these men to like jump on this platform because you're obviously, if you're gonna listen, you're gonna visualize them. 28:13Speaker 1 Absolutely. It's not like an anonymous no, exactly what they like. And they all have like massive fan. 28:19Speaker 3 Bases and girls and the way that the Queen Girls tease the next celebrity on their TikTok and Instagram. You'll see like an arm or you'll. 28:26Speaker 1 See like I know that arm, well you do, because you're like I recognize those tattoos, I recognize those backsteps. 28:33Speaker 3 Well indeed, because the latest one to drop, the latest series was narrated by Sean Hattersey of The Pit. 28:42Speaker 1 Oh, he is such a good looking guy. He is such but everyone on the Pit is very good looking. Yeah, but especially those two sad, sad, sexy old doctors. 28:53Speaker 2 Right, oh my god, Okay, I'm really really you know now. 28:57Speaker 3 Okay, So when I hadn't watched The Pit because like, I don't. 29:00Speaker 1 Want to get around a medical drama. You know, you're very much like LB, like it's too real. 29:05Speaker 3 Yes, But then when I started seeing Sean hat to see on the Quinn's feed, I was like, he's really hot. And I've since watched The Pit now I love it, which is so I love that so they're very good, like Quinn seem very good at picking men who aren't just like super attractive and are doing really well in that. 29:21Speaker 1 Space, but also very like Zygeist. Yeah, like everyone's already talking about that. They absolutely nail it. 29:26Speaker 3 I'm going to give a shout out to the two girls at Quinn that run the social media, Brooke and Michayla. 29:32Speaker 1 You're doing guard's work. Girls. 29:33Speaker 3 Absolutely, they're like world class girls, girls what we want. They are both gorgeous, they're always on there, they're primoing, they're so funny. Yeah, you've got to get around on this great and they have really good taste in men because I can see like who they're tapping, you can you can see who that they picked. 29:52Speaker 1 But do you want to hear some? I definitely want to hear some? Okay, how do we want to do that? Shall I play you some and you can kind of guess who you think it is? Okay? 30:00Speaker 7 Yeah? 30:00Speaker 1 I like that, you like that? Okay, I'm nervous. Spillers. 30:05Speaker 2 If you're watching this on Apple podcasts or YouTube, close your eyes, don't look at me. 30:08Speaker 1 Do this. 30:11Speaker 5 I would take your clothes off until you were nothing, but you're underwear. I will get that sound out of you again, the one you made when you press your body into mind. 30:25Speaker 6 Oh, the pushing noises, breathless, desperate for some relief, and the pressure building inside you. 30:38Speaker 1 Oh my god, who do you think that is? Was that Chris Briny? No? Older? Older, much older? 30:47Speaker 3 Ah, I'm gonna read you the tags that were under the audio for that older man. 30:55Speaker 1 Forbidden romance, forbidden romance, mutual pining, sexting, nude picture, jealousy, personal backstory, consent, very important, it is important. M dom oh male dominant watching instructing you. Oh, it's my pit man. Sean had to see it is he sounds so young in. 31:18Speaker 3 That well they make so much feel like the breathy voice must be the breathiness. 31:22Speaker 1 I don't know. Maybe he just feels young because he's very exciting. 31:27Speaker 7 You like that? 31:28Speaker 1 All right, Let's try another one and say if you can guess who this is. 31:34Speaker 7 And you never even said a word about any of it to me. I thought you trusted me and we trusted each other, but you betrayed. 31:48Speaker 4 Me and no, no, I am Oh you're sorry. 32:01Speaker 7 Now you're sorry. Here, we've been sorry. We all that's your chance, prove it to me. 32:19Speaker 4 Beg. You heard me. 32:28Speaker 7 Beg. 32:33Speaker 4 Sorry isn't good enough? 32:36Speaker 7 Not for the anguish I should when you left me? 32:38Speaker 2 Oh my god, this could easily be Flee Back season three, Andrew, You're so right. 32:44Speaker 1 Yeah, So what's really funny is that not only do they like get these guys, and they get them when they're doing a major project. The story kind of weaves in a little instead of like Neil, he's saying, beg, beg, and he says it so well, and he says it so so well. 33:04Speaker 2 I wish I had like a transcript to reply to what are you saying? Because I was like, Oh, I didn't say sorry, but maybe I should have. 33:10Speaker 1 Maybe I should have. 33:11Speaker 3 Okay, and I'm going to play you one more Okay, this one I've chosen to show you just how explicit it can go. 33:20Speaker 1 Oh god, we're gonna have to beat that so much. 33:24Speaker 8 Do you want me to fill you up? 33:26Speaker 4 Darling? 33:28Speaker 1 And I will, but first the bed moving. 33:33Speaker 8 I need you to get me ready for you come here and Niel, whoa that? 33:41Speaker 1 And your leg's still working after that? 33:42Speaker 4 Darling? 33:44Speaker 8 Yeah, let me help you. You're so pretty like this so hazy from Climax on your knees for me. Do you see how hard do you make me? How much I love making you feel good? I need you to spit on it. 34:05Speaker 1 For me, please, my god. Someone British, right, someone British is a tom BLI. No, I don't know any British men. Okay, that one was Jamie Campbell Bauer. Oh my god, stranger things, Stranger things. That's guys, Oh my god. Just if you're like imagining, he is really hot in real life. He's really really beautiful in realize. 34:36Speaker 2 And this is actually a good strategy for him because a lot of people he played Bena's so good. 34:41Speaker 3 Yeah, he's very good at being scary that a lot of people just hated him. But he really just came out and this was actually he's done two series on Quicks. 34:49Speaker 1 He loves it, he loves it. 34:51Speaker 3 He's come back for more, and whenever he's asked about it in the interviews, he can't speak highly enough of it. He's like, my god, I love that it's a female led company. I love that it prioritizes women's pleasure. He's all over it, like dream man. I can talk about other days like he's love of my life. Right, So he's done two series of it, which is great news for all the fans of like ones that have been in the past thing like we want more, we want more. Jamie has like come back and done another one, so you never know what could happen. But the reason why I wanted to talk about this today is because this morning I woke up and did my morning scroll. I don't do it an hour and forty five minutes. 35:34Speaker 1 It's getting I scroll instare in TikTok instead. 35:37Speaker 3 And they're also very healthy habits, very healthy habits. They have started teasing their next Quinn original with a famous person. 35:49Speaker 1 Who is it. It would appear to be Sam Hewan from Outlander. 35:55Speaker 7 Stop. 35:56Speaker 1 They are so smart, good, are so blad, They so know what the girls want. 36:03Speaker 9 Oh, it's always hot men as well. They're always the hottest I know. And they also do you know what, they're all really good guys too. Yeah, there's no one on their rostar that you're like, oh, he's like there's complaints about him or there's something weird, Like they just they're good guys. 36:18Speaker 1 They do their background racent. 36:20Speaker 2 And it's also like this new wave of famous men and it's like I feel like it's a generational thing. Where like all the Hollywood men are kind of like aicked out by the like girl fan base because they. 36:30Speaker 1 Don't want to make movies for girls. 36:31Speaker 2 Yeshe was like, these men are leaning right in because we're the ones who are spending money to watch them exactly in our movies. Yeah, and they're like doing how I don't know, I feel like their career path, we're doing this is the absolute correct choice for them as well as like the Quinn girls, like I feel like it would have been so hard to develop like pretty much a pawn app for women, but also wanting it to be as like socially out there, like I feel like for women, firstly, no porn is ever made for women, and then for women. 37:02Speaker 1 To watch porn, we have to pretend we don't. 37:04Speaker 2 Yeah, and like with Quinn, it's like giving us a safe space to like share these videos with friends, to show them off and be like, yes, this is exactly what we want. 37:13Speaker 1 Well, that is so that it's so true. 37:15Speaker 3 And you know where one of the best places on the internet is the comments section, Yeah, Quinn's TikTok and Instagram, particularly TikTok because people are just funnier on there anyway. 37:25Speaker 1 But like I have this. 37:26Speaker 3 Theory that I know where all the hardcore directioners have grown up and gone, because no fan base was funnier, hornier, smarter the directions. 37:38Speaker 1 Now they're all Quin listeners. 37:40Speaker 2 They're all Queen listeners and probably Quinn writers. Yeah, Quinn, they're writing them scripts. 37:44Speaker 3 Yeah, but you know what they do tap really great writers to write these stories. 37:48Speaker 1 Well, it's like a proper like story. It's not like you're suddenly in the middle of it. No, no, no, It's it's like a beginning middle story. 37:58Speaker 3 So Jamie's story is like kind of a bit Draco Hermione coded. 38:02Speaker 1 It's one of those like Drake really good at. 38:04Speaker 3 Finding like the zeitgeisty things that the girlies are reading that's on platforms like AO three, which is like where all the. 38:10Speaker 1 Fan fit goes. 38:11Speaker 3 Speaking of I discovered on x there is so much AO three smart stories about the Pit. 38:19Speaker 1 It hasn't ever been going that long. 38:21Speaker 3 But the girls are at home like girls away, right, So I created the most like full on stories about the Pit. Okay, I need to know who you want to see next on Quinn. 38:31Speaker 1 Let me think who would be great? Can I tell you mine? 38:34Speaker 5 Yeah? 38:34Speaker 1 Can you tell me you tell me yours. 38:35Speaker 2 Well, I think I was thinking of this while we were just listening to those Donald Glover as childish Gambino. He was meant to come to send me to do a concert in like I think, I want to say, twenty eighteen nineteen, and he broke his foot and he couldn't perform, and I had bought VIP tickets for me and my sister and I wasn't even working then, and I sent him along Instagram message. I was disappointed that he didn't come. 39:02Speaker 1 And he didn't make it up to you by doing a Quinn. Yeah, he can make it up to me doing Quinn. 39:06Speaker 2 But I think, like I want my story to be him replying to me and going, okay, I'll do a private concept for you at my house. 39:13Speaker 1 Oh my god, I love this and that can be our whole queen story. 39:16Speaker 6 But actually went. 39:17Speaker 1 Out because you've put yourself in the narrative. I don't know what. 39:20Speaker 3 You're not wrong to do it, because that is actually the way that the stories are written. Like when you listen to them in the story, they're the partner in the story. 39:29Speaker 1 I like that. 39:30Speaker 3 Yeah, okay, I do have mine. Okay, it's Joseph Morgan. 39:35Speaker 1 It's Joseph. 39:36Speaker 3 He played Klaus in The Vampire Diaries and the Originals. 39:40Speaker 1 I need to look this up. I need to look this he makes look it up. He was like the really bad one. 39:45Speaker 3 He was like a really bad He's so sexy. He also has not aged, so I think he might. 39:50Speaker 1 Actually he's an English actor. He is an English actor. 39:54Speaker 3 He was so sexy as Klaus. I'd love him to just like can he as a vampire? 40:00Speaker 1 Yeah? Well a vampire. 40:01Speaker 3 He was a vampire werewolf highbrid because he was like way too powerful. 40:05Speaker 1 Oh, the most powerful and the bad guy. 40:07Speaker 3 Yeah, the most powerful and the bad guy. And I think he'd nail it, but I want him to do it as Klaus. 40:13Speaker 1 Yes, he would nail it. Yeah, canail You amen to that. Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. 40:22Speaker 3 If you enjoyed this episode, the best way you can support it is to give us a five star rating wherever you listen. It goes a long way in helping us continue to bring you the very best content. And don't forget weekend watch drops at six tomorrow. The Spill is produced by Manisha it Is Warren, with video production by Michael Keene, Bye, bye,Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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My name is manishaus Warren, producer of The Spell, but filling in today, and I'm joined by Pena provis And today We've got so much to get into. We're unpacking the blue dot phenomenon that's kind of destroying the music industry. Plus one of Hollywood's cutest couples has some exciting news, and we're bringing you on a bit of a walk down memory lane, a bit of a history lesson on how they met and fell in love. But first, a new trailer has dropped for a movie that I really couldn't be more excited about, and I think a lot of people feel the same way. Tina, Are you excited about the Odyssey? 00:36Speaker 3 I'm so excited because the cast looks insane and it just looks like it's going to be the biggest blockbuster. 00:43Speaker 2 Tell me where you remember my wife? As sorry, n. 00:51Speaker 1 Want more? 00:53Speaker 2 Help me go? 00:55Speaker 1 What do you do if he came back here and find all these shoots in his house. 00:59Speaker 2 Were plying you didn't even know? 01:02Speaker 1 Like I'm snaggling past looking after your wife, and so. 01:08Speaker 2 Do you see my dad is coming out when I watched it, I got a similar vibe to watching Dune, which I know you hadn't watched until recently. 01:20Speaker 1 I watched it now. 01:21Speaker 2 Yes, everyone, roll Across said, so, this is the first full length trailer that we've gotten the huge Christopher Nolan adaptation that's dropping in July. And it's based on the Odyssey, which is a classic Greek poem by Homer. It's one of the oldest surviving works of literature and one of the sort of foundational texts of Western literature. But there's been different variations along the way, like there's a retelling that's been done by Stephen Fry and now this big movie is coming out in July. How much do you know about the plot of the Odyssey. I don't know a lot about the plot. Okay, well I learned a lot about it today the trailer. I was like, I feel like I get a picture of what it is. So it's the story of Ody, who is the hero of this plot, and he is a legendary king of Ithaca and a war hero in Greek mythology, and he's trying to get back home after the Trojan War. 02:11Speaker 1 He's sort of like the original road Trip protagonist back home. 02:15Speaker 2 He's in a race against time to get home to his family, and the reason for that is basically because while he was away, a lot of new suitors have popped up who are trying to get with his wife, who's played by Anne Hathaway. 02:27Speaker 1 I love how you're describing it. Yeah, like, here's at a road troop. Everyone's trying to get with his wife. Think about it, Tina, It's a lot like LOI. 02:33Speaker 2 Yeah, the crazy way there's all these men, she's got to couple up with someone. She's got to get home before she couples up with someone else. And watching the trailer, it just really dawned on me how epic this is going to be, because, as you said, the cast is amazing. 02:46Speaker 1 It's that typical Christopher. 02:47Speaker 2 Nolan film where he loves to put a whole bunch of high profile people, even in the supporting roles, to really bring those to life. 02:54Speaker 1 Who are you most excited about in the cast? Liner Browert Patterson. Yeah, I'm just obsessed with him. 02:59Speaker 3 I feel like he's making such a comeback and I love seeing him back on our screens. And I'm excited for like the press run that they'll do because I just love him in all the interviews that he's been doing over the past year. 03:09Speaker 1 He also got a lot of airtime in the trailer. 03:12Speaker 3 Yeah, which I'm surprised because his character isn't the key lead, so I was surprised to see so. 03:17Speaker 1 Much of him in it. Yeah. 03:18Speaker 2 So he plays Antons, who's one of the main suitors who is competing for Penelope's affections, who's played by Anne Hathaway, And Yeah, I. 03:27Speaker 1 Just I thought I felt like I saw more of him than Matt Day. 03:29Speaker 3 Same same when I was kind of reading over like what had come out on the news, I was surprised, like and then getting a little bit of the gist of the plot, I actually thought. 03:37Speaker 1 Rob was going to be the lead. 03:39Speaker 2 Also, what to think of the kind of accent he was doing because he was giving Edward Collin. 03:43Speaker 1 Do you think it was a bit of a nix? I was like, is it a marriage? Do we just see him like that forever? He's just always going to be Edward Collin. 03:49Speaker 2 He can't break out of it. Zendaya is also in it. She plays Athena, but she wasn't in the trailer, but she's going to play the goddess of Wisdom and War who protects and guides Matt Damon on his journey home. I think the main thing I thought watching the trailer was they captured the urgency and the high stakes really well, like I was stressed. I was like, is he going to get back? Is he going to get back to his wife and son? They're going to be okay. So Tom Holland plays Telemachus, who is the son of the main character who's played by Matt Damon. So it'll be quite cute to see Tom Holland and Zendea both in this film. 04:20Speaker 1 I mean, what do you think of his name? 04:22Speaker 2 I think it sounds like a techno festival, but I just can't imagine someone saying that conversationally. 04:28Speaker 1 No, what's his nickname going to be? Telly? Kelly? Yeah, Kelly. 04:32Speaker 2 But he is also quite under threat in this because all the suitors who are going after his mum trying to get Penelope's affections just sort of kind of want him out of the picture. They want to clean slate to get in there enough. So of course the half of haters can't be stopped. So there's a scene of Anne Hathaway in the trailer and everyone's talking about this one second where she's doing really great acting. She's in the fields of it, but her facial expressions are rather which people are attributing to work being done. So there's just been a lot of common treas no one in Hollywood gets work done. I know, everyone's so unfairly mean to her. There's all these comments saying, you know, her eyebrows and her forehead aren't moving. They didn't have, you know, botox in twelve hundred BCE, so she's getting a little bit of flack for that. But it does look like she's going to be amazing in this movie, and she's having a huge year. So the movie is out July seventeenth. It's going to be a huge theatrical event. And if you want to watch the trailer, it looks visually stunning. So if you want to watch the full thing, there's a link to that in our show notes. 05:28Speaker 1 And yeah, just a few months to go. 05:30Speaker 3 So The Pussycat Dolls are the latest musical app to be struck down by Blue Dot Fever. Now I hadn't heard about this before, but it's basically like when you go on a ticket Master website and you have a look at like the seating map and all of the blue dots are all of the unsold seats. 05:46Speaker 1 So they've actually just had to cancel their tour. 05:49Speaker 3 They've come out with a statement saying that they've had to have a really honest look at the North American run and because of that, they've made the heartbreaking decision to cancel all the tour dates. Now, when I saw they announce their tour from Australia, I was excited for I was like, what a throwback. 06:03Speaker 1 I was excited too. 06:04Speaker 2 I just associate all their songs with you know when I grow up. Yes, like I'm eight years old and I'm like shaking my ass to this song that I don't appropriate. 06:14Speaker 3 Yeah, So it's really disappointing to hear that it has been called off. But they're not the only musical act in the past couple of weeks that have had to pause or you know, cancel their shows. So this follows post Malone. He's had to shift the dates to his tour. Megan Trainer has also canceled, and Zane Now, they all have various reasons for why they've had to cancel their top At the end of the day, they weren't really sold out, and the Pussycat Dolls are the only ones who've kind of acknowledged this. 06:42Speaker 1 In their statements. 06:43Speaker 3 But it really shows a little bit of a shift in how these concerts are coming to life and where people are choosing to spend their money. And it just seems like it's no longer viable to have these big stadium shows because these aren't like small acts. 06:56Speaker 2 These are like big headliners. They should be selling out these stadiums. Yeah, and it's interesting to see which of them acknowledge that as the reason that they're canceling and which don't, because I guess it is a bit of taking a piece of humble pie to be like, we're calling it off because we couldn't fill the seeds. 07:11Speaker 3 I've really making up some other reasons. And in China was like, I've got to look after my kid. I'm like, that's not a new thing. Yeah, you already had. 07:17Speaker 1 You the kid was there. You already had your kid. 07:19Speaker 2 And didn't post Malone say he needed to release more music. 07:22Speaker 1 He needs taking time. 07:23Speaker 3 See he's only shifted his by like three weeks. But I'm assuming that leg of the tour. I was just like, wasn't doing that well, so, I guess it's an interesting look at people's willingness when it comes to investing in these big shows and festivals and things like that, alongside these like surging ticket prices, like how many acts can you go to in one year? So your favorite artist is coming that year, are you going to be able to go to three shows? 07:48Speaker 1 Probably? Not, Like the cost of tickets is so expensive now. Yeah, And I don't know. 07:52Speaker 2 If you've sort of found this in your group chats and in your circles that it used to be someone's coming, when are we going? That was more the vibe, whereas I think now people are really realpliers. 08:02Speaker 1 It wants to go. 08:05Speaker 2 Yeah, but you just kind of now have to save that for when you know your top few favorite artists come, and you know, most people are only probably going to one or two a year totally. 08:16Speaker 3 And I guess in Australia we get so many less acts coming over because of the supply and demand and like the physical logistics to make it all the way over here, it just isn't viable to do those big stadium shows. So for us, when acts do come over, we're met with those really high costs. And again, yeah, for the group chat. No, not everybody can go. 08:36Speaker 1 You're just picturing. 08:37Speaker 2 When they're sitting around planning out their tour dates, they must be like do we do Australia? 08:40Speaker 1 Like it's just so far away? 08:42Speaker 2 And when you think about something like the Ears tour or those huge sets that they then have to transport everywhere, that's a huge cost for them. 08:49Speaker 3 So in Australia it really impacts how artists are touring locally. For a lot of those major international tours, you know, they are higher logistic costs involved, and you know when you come out of a concert you see those trucks outside they're packing up the stage. They're getting everything from production into those trucks and then going from Sydney to Melbourne and there's a huge cost involved. So they're often putting a lot of attention into the places that they're going to be able to quickly roll out when they're in Australia. So you can understand if you were going to add you know, an Adelaide and a Perth leg on top of Sydney and Melbourne, you would be driving, you'd be on the road for days. So it's not like in the States we can kind of pack up and like, do your shows. Australia has so much ground to cover, so it does make sense that, you know, they do focus their time on a Sydney or a Melbourne, but it's such a shame because so many other states and so many people are missing out. 09:42Speaker 2 I know, and the other states do really get up in arms about it, Like if you speak to someone from Perple, Britain during. 09:48Speaker 1 The ears to it, oh my god, because they have to factor in so much more to be able to come to something like that. Yeah, totally. 09:53Speaker 3 And there obviously are exceptions the rule of food fighters who have historically loved coming to Australia. You know, they've done one noto shows in Tasmania, they've done Geelong. 10:02Speaker 1 Before, but that is like not the noll. 10:04Speaker 2 I know. I was living in Melbourne when they did the Geelong tour and I still remember everyone being like, oh, I'm going to the few Fighters this weekend hour and a half drive there. 10:11Speaker 1 I was like what, Yeah, where are they doing it? And there are obviously acts. 10:15Speaker 3 That come over, like Bad Bunny came over and he did two Sydney shows and they were obviously massive sellout shows, but because he was only in Sydney. You've obviously got people flying in from all over the country just in order to be there and see him. So it's kind of the people at the top. You know, you have Taylor Swift, people are fighting for those tickets, like there are like hundreds of thousands of people waiting in a queue to buy those tickets when she announces a tour. But there's like that middle ground where your acts, like the Pussycat Dolls are just like not able to get it across the line anymore. 10:45Speaker 2 I know. It is interesting to think about because when we were initially chatting about them, we were both like, Oh, it's so exciting that they're coming here. And then you were like, would you actually get a ticket to go and see the pussy Cat Dolls, And. 10:55Speaker 1 I was like, I don't know. 10:56Speaker 2 I do like some of their old songs, but also the reunion isn't all of the area original members as well? 11:01Speaker 1 I believe it's three of the original band, and isn't there like twenty four of them? Yeah? True, they can't get them all. Yeah, it goes on tour. 11:08Speaker 3 I don't know if I would actually be putting money into seeing the Pussycat Dolls. 11:11Speaker 2 I know, it is sort of the girl math of you know, do I put it into this year's budget even though it's so far away. And I think the problem is these days, the cost of living is so high, so you're really focusing what you can spend on a few key performers that maybe you're really passionate about. And we sort of saw the knock on effect of someone like Adele coming to Australia a while ago, and how people are such big fans of hers that they spent so much money didn't they on going to their concerts. 11:36Speaker 1 Which left less for other smaller artists coming. Yeah. 11:38Speaker 3 So she last toured Australia in twenty seventeen, and she notoriously hates flying. So I think a lot of people knew like, if we're going to see Adele, this is going to be when we see her. She played in Perth, Brisbane, Sydney, Adelaide and Melbourne. She sold over six hundred thousand tickets, so it doesn't really free up much like disposable income for other artists who may be touring in that time. Yeah, you've really either got to be in that a group category where your fans are so hardcore but also so widespread, like you have such wide appeal or it's really hard to make a dent at the moment. 12:08Speaker 2 And I think we see that in a lot of like Australian festivals as well, like we've lost so many we lost falls festivals, splendor in the Grass and like I think you and I were having a conversation earlier about like that's how we found so many artists. 12:19Speaker 1 Like smaller artists, and. 12:20Speaker 3 That's where you would first like get a taste of them before they get big enough. 12:24Speaker 1 To sell their own stadium shows. 12:25Speaker 2 Yes, I remember seeing Billie Eilish at twenty eighteen. 12:29Speaker 1 She's crazy, even the move which is really now. She headlined groove in Them. 12:33Speaker 2 I believe it was twenty nineteen, which doesn't even feel that long ago, and it is. I know, it really is a bad reality, but it's crazy to think now there are so few of those platforms that people can make that real headway in terms of gathering fans and getting momentum going that it is hard to imagine someone now going from a festival stage two sold out stadium tours, even though I'm sure it will happen on occasion. 12:55Speaker 3 That actually reminds me of when I saw Taylor Swift and she had Sabrina Carpter as her supporting artists. Now, at this time, I actually didn't know a whole lot about Saprina Carpenter and actually rained so much on the night we went, so we didn't see the opening act and I didn't actually think twice about it because I hadn't really known much about her. And then Taylor actually ended up bringing her out later and they did a song together. It was really cute, and then lo and behold six months later, she's one of the biggest names in the music industry. 13:22Speaker 1 That's one of the few. 13:22Speaker 2 Inns we have left, Like one of the biggest artists in a world has to give a formal introduction from world Yeah, to put you on the map. 13:29Speaker 1 It's hard to see the impact on the music industry. 13:31Speaker 3 And I am such a big advocate for like live music and gigs, like I'm still out here shelling. 13:36Speaker 1 Out my Dallas. So I just think it'd be really. 13:39Speaker 3 Great if you know, it's hard out here and maybe you don't have money for like those bigger ticket acts, but there are so many more smaller artists, you know in Australia who were touring and it's live music. 13:49Speaker 1 Let's get out there and go see them. 13:51Speaker 2 Guys, and you can save money pre at home and then you know, have a really good night out of it. It's so much expensive than going to the stadium two a half the time. Ok So earlier this week there were some exciting baby news from one of the biggest stars. Cameron Diaz Her and Benji Madden announced on Instagram that they've welcomed their third child, Nortus. 14:10Speaker 1 Madden thoughts on the name, I don't know about that one. 14:14Speaker 2 It feels a little ship themes like nautical, doesn't it it does they already have they should be in the Odyssey. 14:21Speaker 1 Maybe this is how they're out there. 14:22Speaker 2 So they already have a six year old daughter called Radix and a two year old son called Cardinal. 14:28Speaker 1 So oh, I think there's not even really a theme. No, I think the theme is out there. Maybe. Well they're nailing that. 14:36Speaker 2 So in their Instagram caption they said, well, actually, Benji post it and said Cameron and I are happy, excited and feeling so blessed. Blessed is in capitals to announce the birth of our third child, Naughtous Madden. Welcome to the world, son and Cameron is fifty three years old, and she's spoken before about sort of her long journey to motherhood and feeling super lucky to be able to become a mum later in life. So I think the blessed in capital letters just look a little bit of a nod to that. But it did make me go on a bit of a journey down memory lane because I don't know about you, but I didn't actually know a lot about Cameron and met you. 15:11Speaker 1 No, So I'm ready for this deep dive. I'm ready to learn. 15:13Speaker 2 Yeah, it turns out they had quite a cute little meet you, which I'm going to tell you all about. But before Cameron met Benji, she had a little bit of a type when it came to who she was dating. So she definitely loved her Hollywood bad boys and pop stars. 15:28Speaker 1 So fair So do you think can why not? I mean, we'd all love it if the option was presented to us. 15:34Speaker 2 So from nineteen ninety six to nineteen ninety eight, she dated Matt Dillon. They were co stars together in There Something About Mary, and apparently they broke up. 15:43Speaker 1 Because of long distance. He was in New York, she. 15:45Speaker 2 Was in La Then a couple years later, she was with Jared Leto for about four years. There was a rumored engagement, and then that didn't work out, apparently because you know, both very busy careers, scheduling conflicts. 15:57Speaker 1 He's got to focus on thirty seconds commas. He's working on himself. He's working on himself. You know, we all we've all heard that light. 16:05Speaker 2 Then of course she was with Justin Timberlake as well in the early two thousands. That was really high profile and it ended amid cheating rumors from a Playboy bunny. 16:14Speaker 1 So oh, a bit of a scandal there. 16:16Speaker 2 There was a former Playboy model called Zoe Gregory and she was out there claiming her and Justin Timberlake had a fling while he was dating Cameron and that they quote unquote fooled around at the Playboy mansion. 16:26Speaker 1 Interesting, maybe it was the world tour. This is going to ruin the door. 16:31Speaker 2 So she had this real pattern of high profile actors and musicians and these quite intense public relationships that then didn't work out, which I think makes it all the sweeter when it does work out right in the end. So getting to her and Benji, they met in May twenty fourteen at Well I think inflicting reports of a dinner party or a house party. But it was a gathering of sorts that Cameron was hosting, and they met via Nicole Ritchie, who is Benji's sister in law. She's married to his twin, Joel Madden, and so they were invited to this party, and I guess he was invited by association. They actually hadn't met before, despite running in quite stiless me cute, I know, I love her, meet cute, And what Cameron has said about it is she said, well, firstly, speaking about whether or not Nicole Ritchie specifically set them up, she said, I met them first, them being Nicole and Joel, and they didn't set us up, but we were in the same room because of them, and then we found each other. But Nicole Ritchie is taking credit for setting them up, because she told Andy Cohen on Watch What Happens Live this was right after they met. I'm going to take responsibility for everything I approve of anything that's going to make Benji happy. 17:35Speaker 3 She's probably working behind the scenes to make it happen. Cameron didn't even know. 17:39Speaker 2 I know. And also, if I'm even in the room where a couple meets and then they hit it off. 17:43Speaker 1 I'm taking responsibility for this as you should. Yeah, if I made that invite happen. 17:47Speaker 2 So in terms of first impressions, Cameron said she recalled her first reaction to seeing Benji at the party as he's hot and I was surprised that they hadn't cross paths sooner, and basically very much like you know you're the one. 17:58Speaker 1 They obviously hit it off the beginning. We're all about each other. 18:02Speaker 2 They started dating in secret over that summer in twenty fourteen, and then they went public after these yacht vacation photos were leaked, and that's how everyone found out about it. I mean that that's how you want people to find out, right, Yeah on a yacht, Like imagine all your other exes. You're like, well, I'm on a yacht now with this guy. 18:17Speaker 1 So yeah. 18:17Speaker 2 Snucky and one of Benji's friends sort of spoke to the press and was like, Benji always falls in love easily, but this time it's for real. They make each other incredibly happy. 18:27Speaker 1 Which I thought. 18:28Speaker 2 I think if I was getting my friend to the press, I don't know, if he signed off with this, I'd be like, could you drop the always falls in love easily. 18:34Speaker 1 Bit I'd feel like, why did you add that? Who says that? Who is the source? Like this one's real. They're like, we're not friends anymore. 18:39Speaker 2 Yeah. So later that year, Benji spoke to people about it and he confirmed the relationship and he talked about how much being with Cameron was impacting his music and he was feeling so driven and they had this whole whirlwind romance throughout that year, and then after just seven months they got engaged. 18:53Speaker 1 My god, that's fuss well they say, like when you're older. Yeah, that's so fair. I love that for them. 18:59Speaker 2 You and then planned the wedding insanely fast. So they got engaged December twenty fourteen and then had the wedding January twenty fifteen. 19:07Speaker 1 Oh my god, that's a quick turnaround for a wedding. I know, I don't know how they pulled it together. 19:10Speaker 2 I mean they did throw it at they had some help, probably probably, yeah, probably. 19:14Speaker 1 A forty plant. Yeah. 19:16Speaker 2 So they had a very intimate wedding, was a backyard wedding at their house in Beverly Hills. I mean, I imagine it's not a little shack. It's probably yeah, I don't think Sotly probably got some space and Drew Barrymore was there in Gwyneth Paltrow and they got married in this giant backyard tent with all these beautiful flowers and candles, and then all sounded amazing. 19:34Speaker 1 But I think what's really lovely about them. 19:36Speaker 2 Is obviously they've been married now for about eleven years, but they've said really cute things about each other along the way. I don't know if you've ever seen any of the quotes where they talk about each other. 19:45Speaker 1 What do they say? So I hope they're saying nice things about each other. They're just airing what they find out. 19:51Speaker 2 So in twenty seventeen, so this is like a few years after Cameron gave this interview where she sort of explained why she waited until she was forty two. 19:58Speaker 1 To get married, and I thought, what a big she said? That was cute? 20:00Speaker 2 Was I think it's a matter of I just hadn't met my husband. I had boyfriends before, and there's a really really distinct difference between husbands and boyfriends. What do you think about, Teach, she's real for that. She gives me hope because I'm probably gonna be single time like forty, you're like, I'm currently seeing the boyfriends. I need to see the husband. Bring me the husband. And then She is also gushed about him on a few podcasts, even recently, like you Know twenty twenty one onwards, saying when I saw him from the get go, I knew he was special. 20:26Speaker 1 I was like, you're the guy, You're the hidden gem in my life. 20:28Speaker 2 Oh. 20:29Speaker 3 I love like share this insight into it because you just remember, like they're real people and there's like this real love between them. 20:35Speaker 2 I know. And as much as we all talk about, oh, it's so nice when you just meet someone and it's a slow burn, I think it's really cute when they. 20:41Speaker 1 Actually are saying it's love at first sight. 20:43Speaker 3 I know. And I feel like we hear so much about like the breakups and like the scandal, so it is nice to like hear like the success stories. 20:49Speaker 1 Worked out as aspirational. 20:51Speaker 2 She's also talked a lot about how Benji was the first person to really teach her to value herself and before that she just felt like she was always seeking validation in her partners. That she said, Oh my god, imagine being Cameron Diaz and you're seeking validation. 21:03Speaker 1 Oh, my god. 21:04Speaker 2 This is exactly how I felt when we covered on the podcast how Meryl Streep talked about, you know, feeling it'scure with roles and things like that, and hearing Cameron Diaz saying like, you know, not valuing herself. 21:13Speaker 3 You're like, so everyone's the second. Oh my god, I know, I cannot imagine that. I'm like, surely you're like the most confident person in the world. 21:19Speaker 1 I know you would think. I mean, you're a Charlie's Angel. I think some other cute fun things about them. Is they actually got I don't know. 21:25Speaker 2 Actually, I don't know if this is cutter if I disapprove of this, but I guess in their situation, it's cute. They got matching tattoos on their wedding day. Oh I don't mind that. 21:32Speaker 1 You don't mind that. 21:33Speaker 2 I mean, you're already starting a legally binding contract. 21:36Speaker 1 Is it a fun tattoo? 21:37Speaker 2 Cameron got Benji's name and Hebrew on her finger, and he got the same. I don't know if name I would like like maybe like something fun. I'd like something I could repurpose if it didn't work out, Like, oh, I got this turtle, not because it's our favorite animal. But I don't know if like turtle wedding day works, but like maybe we can workshop that with your wedding. 21:53Speaker 1 Just get apart. That can apply no matter what happens. 21:56Speaker 2 I think it's also cute how they're both talking about how they ran in the same celebrities circles for years, but they never crossed paths until Nicole Richie brought Benji to that event. 22:05Speaker 1 So I'm surprised by that. I know Cameron was too. 22:08Speaker 2 She said, how come I never saw this guy before. 22:10Speaker 1 It's kind of one of those things. 22:11Speaker 2 Where it feels like the universe waits till you're ready. Because if she met him when she was with Justin Timberlay, exactly why would we be Maybe she was manifested, is exactly ready. They're both really private as well, so they don't put out any photos of their kids. They've actually sued paparazzi before over releasing pics of Radix. I keep wanting to say Radish, but it's Radis, he says. 22:34Speaker 1 Child. 22:35Speaker 2 And after they sort of got together and settled down and had a family, Cameron went on quite a career pause. So in twenty eighteen, she quit acting to focus on the family. 22:44Speaker 1 She was quite open about it. 22:46Speaker 2 She said she was retiring, taking a step back, focusing on her marriage and kids, and she actually launched a wine brand. 22:51Speaker 1 In that time. 22:51Speaker 2 In twenty twenty, she released Avaline, her wine brand. Apparently he was very supportive in that process. And then now, obviously she has had a bit of a return to acting because in the life last couple of years she was in the Netflix film Back to Action with Jamie Fox that came out last year, and now she's filming a romantic comedy directed by Stephen Merchant, which we don't know. 23:08Speaker 1 The title of You I Love. That should be great, I know, So she's getting back into the swing of things. 23:13Speaker 2 But I think for that period had, you know, a lot of focus on family because they had their first kid twenty nineteen, and then they've now got a two year old and now the new baby. So yeah, that is a little bit of a you know, walk down memory lane history lesson on. I think one of Hollywood's cutest couples, but weirdly under the radar, like I knew nothing about their whole love story. 23:29Speaker 1 Maybe I was just living under a rock. So cute. I hope that kind of love finds me. 23:34Speaker 3 Thanks so much for listening to the Spill today, and if you want to watch as well as listen, you can now watch us on Apple Podcasts. Just make sure that your iPhone is up to date and switch over to video to see our beautiful faces, or head on over to the YouTube channel to catch more of our video content, including celeb interviews. 23:51Speaker 1 The Spill is produced. 23:52Speaker 2 By Minishi Izworn with video production by Michael Keane. 23:55Speaker 1 We'll see you next time. Bye bye, Lana.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.