How can you test your code when you don’t know what’s in it?

How can you test your code when you don’t know what’s in it?

From The Stack Overflow Podcast by The Stack Overflow Podcast

March 31, 2026 · 30 min · Episode 932

About this episode

Ryan hosts Fitz Nowlan to discuss challenges in software testing amidst evolving AI technologies.

Ryan hosts SmartBear’s VP of AI and Architecture Fitz Nowlan to explore how we’re moving away from old assumptions about software development, the challenges of testing MCP servers as LLM-driven agents introduce non-determinism that breaks tradition, and how data locality and data construction are becoming more valuable when source code is so easy to generate. Episode notes:   SmartBear gives devs tools for application performance monitoring, software development, software testing, and API management—all at AI speed and scale. Connect with Fitz on LinkedIn and email him at FitzNowlan@SmartBear.com   Congrats to Great Answer winner Alexander for winning the badge for their answer to Is there a way to make Runnable's run() throw an exception? . TRANSCRIPT See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

People in this episode

Host: Ryan

Guest: Fitz Nowlan

Topics covered

  • software development
  • code testing
  • AI
  • non-determinism
  • data locality

Keywords

  • code testing
  • software development
  • AI
  • MCP servers
  • data construction

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Organizations: SmartBear

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