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| 10/12/26 | WOF 546: Do You Listen to Your Conscience? | Welcome back to the Word on Fire Show. I'm Matthew Petrusek, senior director of the Word on Fire Institute and the host of the Word on Fire Show. Thank you for joining us. What does it mean to listen to your conscience, especially in a culture that scoffs at the existence of moral values? Does the concept of conscience still mean anything today? Or is it a relic of what the secular world would have us believe was a naïve and superstitious past—a time of cartoon crickets and buzz-killing angels perched on our shoulders, scolding us into acting against our desires? Was the atheist Sigmund Freud right that conscience is merely the internalized echo of a tyrannical father, seeking to keep our conduct in check? And even if we grant that conscience has some kind of objective existence, how can we account for the fact that people reach radically incompatible moral conclusions while all claiming to follow it? For example, one person says conscience leads them to support abortion; another says conscience requires them to stand against it. Through all of this, how can we say that the conscience is "free" if its primary function is to impose rules? Here to help us untangle these questions, and to make the case that recovering the biblical conception of the conscience is more important than ever, is Bishop Robert Barron. Topics Covered 00:00 | Introduction 01:24 | Bishop Barron in Nashville: Good News Conference, Dominicans, and Theo Von 02:29 | What is the conscience? 05:21 | Is conscience just a gut feeling? 07:14 | The "angel" and the "devil" on our shoulders 09:57 | Perceiving conscience as an external voice 11:30 | Freud's concept of the internalized voice of authority 16:04 | Both radically individual and universally shared 18:04 | How prudence interacts with the conscience 18:55 | Is the conscience free? 22:04 | What are the duties to the conscience? 24:57 | What about when poor judgment clouds the conscience? 28:02 | "My truth, your truth" 30:24 | Responding to the conflation of evil and good 32:22 | The liberating benefits of rules 34:01 | Listener question: How can I respond to "I'm spiritual but not religious"? 36:14 | Join the Word on Fire Institute Links: Word on Fire Institute: https://institute.wordonfire.org/ NOTE: Do you like this podcast? Become a Word on Fire IGNITE member! Word on Fire is a non-profit ministry that depends on the support of our listeners . . . like you! So become a part of this mission and join IGNITE today to become a Word on Fire insider and receive some special donor gifts for your generosity. | 36m 49s | ||||||
| 9/28/26 | WOF 545: Modern Christian Martyrdom | Pt. 2 | Welcome back to the Word on Fire Show. I'm Matthew Petrusek, senior director of the Word on Fire Institute and the host of the Word on Fire Show. Thank you, as always, for joining us. In this episode, we'll conclude our conversation with Dr. Tod Worner and Bishop Barron on modern Christian persecution. Topics Covered 00:00 | Introduction 00:23 | Lower than God, higher than us 05:58 | What do their deaths demand? 18:08 | No. 1—Pray for the persecuted 18:25 | No. 2—Stay informed 18:50 | No. 3—Persuade government to take action 19:35 | No. 4—Provide aid to the persecuted 19:50 | No. 5—Respect religious liberty at home 20:32 | No. 6—Resist soft religious persecution 22:09 | How the martyrs impacted Bishop Barron 25:03 | Join the Word on Fire Institute Links: Word on Fire Institute: https://institute.wordonfire.org/ NOTE: Do you like this podcast? Become a Word on Fire IGNITE member! Word on Fire is a non-profit ministry that depends on the support of our listeners . . . like you! So become a part of this mission and join IGNITE today to become a Word on Fire insider and receive some special donor gifts for your generosity. | 25m 37s | ||||||
| 9/14/26 | WOF 544: Modern Christian Martyrdom | pt. 1 | Welcome back to the Word on Fire Show. I'm Matthew Petrusek, senior director of the Word on Fire Institute and the host of the Word on Fire Show. Thank you for joining us. Recently, Dr. Tod Worner of The Evangelization & Culture Podcast sat down with Bishop Barron to discuss modern Christian persecution with Bishop Barron's new book, What Do Their Deaths Demand? Now, it's a topic we've explored here on this show, once before. In this new conversation, we'll take a deeper dive into that subject, exploring the specific witness of some of these martyrs, and examining this modern era which has seen more Christian persecution than any other in history. Here to discuss that with Dr. Tod Worner, is Bishop Robert Barron. Topics Covered 00:00 | Introduction 02:18 | The most persecuted religion 15:08 | Why the persecution of Christians? 25:44 | Join the Word on Fire Institute Links: Word on Fire Institute: https://institute.wordonfire.org/ NOTE: Do you like this podcast? Become a Word on Fire IGNITE member! Word on Fire is a non-profit ministry that depends on the support of our listeners . . . like you! So become a part of this mission and join IGNITE today to become a Word on Fire insider and receive some special donor gifts for your generosity. | 26m 18s | ||||||
| 8/31/26 | WOF 543: Christian Charity vs. "Suicidal Empathy" | Welcome back to the Word on Fire Show. I'm Matthew Petrusek, senior director of the Word on Fire Institute and the host of the Word on Fire Show. Thank you for joining us. The evolutionary behavioral scientist and public intellectual Gad Saad recently published an influential book entitled Suicidal Empathy: Dying to Be Kind. In it, Saad argues that much of the West has, unfortunately, come to embrace a perversely deficient understanding of empathy, twisting the natural and otherwise noble human capacity to feel and respond to other peoples' sufferings into a moral license to upend the moral, economic, and political order. According to the dictates of suicidal empathy, for example, society should prioritize criminals over victims, illegal immigrants over citizens, lawbreakers over law abiders, racial identity over competence, adult sexual expression over childhood innocence, and trans women––that is, men pretending to be women––over real women. Suicidal empathy's endgame, Saad warns, is nothing less than societal ruin and the eventual totalitarian eclipse of the individual. How, from a Catholic perspective, should we assess these claims? Is Saad's characterization of suicidal empathy and its dangers accurate? If so, how should we, as Christians, constructively respond? What role, in particular, should the biblical conception of love play in defining what it means to show true compassion and care for those in need? Here to discuss Saad's book and to explain how authentic Christian charity is—and is not—related to empathy, is Bishop Robert Barron. Topics Covered 00:00 | Introduction 01:40 | Bishop Barron interviews JD Vance 02:45 | How Saad defines "empathy" 04:45 | Saad's argument on the exaggeration of empathy 06:31 | Exploring the concept of "forbidden knowledge" 09:30 | "It will destroy the West"? 11:05 | Connecting wokeism and self-destructive empathy 12:33 | Can we square wokeism's moralizing mandates with its amoral claims? 13:40 | Tracing the movement's origins 16:27 | Mistaking empathy for love 22:01 | Recognizing the fallenness of our emotional lives 27:39 | Does love equate to niceness and kindness? 28:50 | What about "love thy neighbor"? 30:42 | Distinguishing a proper preference for the poor from its unhealthy overemphasis 32:46 | Addressing the Christian impulse beneath the wokeist trappings 34:42 | Listener question: Where was God before time? 36:33 | Join the Word on Fire Institute Links: Word on Fire Institute: https://institute.wordonfire.org/ NOTE: Do you like this podcast? Become a Word on Fire IGNITE member! Word on Fire is a non-profit ministry that depends on the support of our listeners . . . like you! So become a part of this mission and join IGNITE today to become a Word on Fire insider and receive some special donor gifts for your generosity. | 37m 08s | ||||||
| 8/17/26 | WOF 542: Why All Catholics Should Pray the Liturgy of the Hours | Welcome back to the Word on Fire Show. I'm Matthew Petrusek, senior director of the Word on Fire Institute and the host of the Word on Fire Show. Thank you for joining us. The Liturgy of the Hours, or the "Divine Office," is often associated exclusively with the spiritual practices of priests, monks, and nuns. To be sure, praying the Hours is an essential part of the lives of those who have formally taken religious vows. However, the prayer of the Church, as the Liturgy of the Hours is also called, is precisely that: a way of sanctifying the day for the whole Church, both laity and clergy alike. With so many forms of prayer already available, however, why should lay Catholics also consider praying the Hours? What, substantively, is distinctive about it? What are its origins? Moreover, given the size and complexity of the Hours—the full liturgy occupies four thick volumes of text with multiple ribbons to mark different sections—how, practically, can we get started? Here to explain the enduring theological and spiritual richness of the Liturgy of the Hours and how it deepens and enriches all Catholics' lives, is Bishop Robert Barron. Topics Covered 00:00 | Introduction 01:11 | Bishop Barron's diocesan travels 02:35 | Why the Liturgy of the Hours matters to Word on Fire 03:57 | Leading with beauty 04:57 | Prayer and the importance of embodiment 08:06 | The origins and practice of praying the Divine Office 12:13 | How the Liturgy of the Hours shapes priests 13:26 | Understanding the Liturgy of the Hours as the Divine Office 14:22 | Relating the Liturgy of the Hours to the liturgy of the Mass 15:11 | What makes a prayer liturgical? 15:52 | Why the Psalms feature so prominently in the Divine Office 20:06 | How the laity benefits from praying the Divine Office 21:46 | "Pray without ceasing" 23:17 | Getting started with the Liturgy of the Hours 27:32 | Persevering through fatigue in prayer 30:51 | The Divine Office and evangelization 31:44 | Listener question: What effect does our prayer have on others? 34:18 | Join the Word on Fire Institute Links: Word on Fire Institute: https://institute.wordonfire.org/ NOTE: Do you like this podcast? Become a Word on Fire IGNITE member! Word on Fire is a non-profit ministry that depends on the support of our listeners . . . like you! So become a part of this mission and join IGNITE today to become a Word on Fire insider and receive some special donor gifts for your generosity. | 34m 52s | ||||||
| 8/3/26 | WOF 541: "Heaven in Stone and Glass"—A New Feature Film by Bishop Barron | Welcome back to the Word on Fire Show. I'm Matthew Petrusek, senior director of the Word on Fire Institute and the host of the Word on Fire Show. Thank you for joining us. We're delighted to announce that a new feature film by Bishop Robert Barron will be hitting theaters—yes, theaters—soon. The full-length documentary, entitled Heaven in Stone and Glass, draws on the collective shock and sadness the world experienced watching Paris's Cathedral of Notre-Dame burn in 2019 to explore the enduring philosophical, theological, aesthetic, moral, and evangelical significance of the great Gothic cathedrals of France. Recognizing the potential destruction of Notre-Dame—happily, it has since been restored—as much more than the loss of a historic building, Bishop Barron personally walks us through Gothicism's soaring architecture and richly detailed symbolism to explain everything from the unity and diversity of creation, the nature of the human person, the objectivity of beauty, the meaning of the incarnation, the living communion of saints, and the hope of the beatific vision, and how all of this matters more than ever for a rapidly secularizing West at risk of losing its Christian civilizational identity. Here to share the story behind the making of the film, and what he hopes audiences will take away from it, is Bishop Robert Barron. Topics Covered 00:00 | Introduction 01:24 | Bishop Barron ordains new priests 02:57 | The role of film in the early days of Word on Fire 06:04 | Connecting Heaven in Stone and Glass to Word on Fire's other films 07:26 | Why a new film on cathedrals? 09:00 | Personal origins of the new film 11:23 | Unpacking the film's title 15:18 | Explaining the full meaning of a church and cathedral 19:20 | Theological reflections within a cathedral 24:11 | Medieval times and the so-called Dark Ages 25:51 | The objective reality of beauty 28:44 | The role of the profane in the Gothic cathedrals 32:33 | Overcoming blindness through appreciation and emulation 33:36 | Evangelical opportunities for Heaven in Stone and Glass 34:56 | Listener question: How can the laity advance beauty today? 36:53 | Join the Word on Fire Institute Links: Word on Fire Institute: https://institute.wordonfire.org/ NOTE: Do you like this podcast? Become a Word on Fire IGNITE member! Word on Fire is a non-profit ministry that depends on the support of our listeners . . . like you! So become a part of this mission and join IGNITE today to become a Word on Fire insider and receive some special donor gifts for your generosity. | 37m 27s | ||||||
| 7/20/26 | online culturevirtues+4 | — | — | — | virtuesonline culture+5 | — | 36m 59s | ||
| 7/6/26 | America's 250th birthdayCatholic perspective on America+5 | Bishop Robert Barron | Declaration of Independence | United StatesNational Mall+1 | AmericaCatholic+6 | — | 38m 19s | ||
| 6/22/26 | religious freedomadvocacy+3 | Bishop Robert Barron | Word on Fire Institutepresidential religious liberty commission+1 | — | religious libertyhuman rights+3 | — | 35m 42s | ||
| 6/8/26 | new conversionsCatholic Church+4 | Bishop Robert Barron | Word on Fire Institute | United StatesAustralia+1 | conversionsCatholicism+5 | — | 34m 44s | ||
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| 5/25/26 | Christian persecutionreligious discrimination+4 | Bishop Robert Barron | What Do Their Deaths Demand? Christian Persecution Today | — | Christianitypersecution+6 | — | 35m 12s | ||
| 5/11/26 | Fulton Sheenevangelization+5 | — | Word on Fire Catholic MinistriesWord on Fire Institute | — | Fulton Sheencanonization+5 | — | 32m 58s | ||
| 4/27/26 | Old TestamentChristianity+4 | Bishop Robert Barron | Word on Fire InstituteChurch+2 | — | Old TestamentChristianity+5 | — | 41m 17s | ||
| 4/13/26 | HollywoodCatholicism+4 | Bishop Robert Barron | Word on Fire InstituteHollywood+2 | — | HollywoodCatholicism+5 | — | 39m 01s | ||
| 3/30/26 | Marxismpolitical culture+4 | — | Word on Fire InstituteCatholic Church | — | Marxismcollectivism+5 | — | 45m 48s | ||
| 3/16/26 | social mediaevangelization+3 | Bishop Robert Barron | Word on Fire InstituteWord on Fire | — | social mediaCatholic Church+5 | — | 28m 32s | ||
| 3/2/26 | Catholic ministrysocial media+3 | Tod WornerFr. Steve Grunow | Word on Fire InstituteWord on Fire | — | Catholic ministrysocial media+3 | — | 22m 20s | ||
| 2/16/26 | communicationevangelization+4 | Dr. Tod WornerFr. Steve Grunow+1 | Word on FireWord on Fire Institute | — | communicationevangelization+6 | — | 28m 26s | ||
| 2/9/26 | evangelizationpatron saints+3 | Fr. Steve Grunow | Word on Fire Institute | — | Bishop BarronFr. Steve Grunow+5 | — | 21m 35s | ||
| 2/2/26 | reasonauthority+5 | — | Word on FireWord on Fire Institute | — | Enlightenmentautonomy+6 | — | 22m 29s | ||
| 1/26/26 | Word on Fire originsCatholic ministry+4 | Fr. Steve Grunow | Word on FireWord on Fire Institute | — | Word on FireBishop Barron+5 | — | 32m 24s | ||
| 1/19/26 | Illative Sensecertainty+3 | — | Word on Fire InstituteThe Illative Sense+4 | — | Illative Sensecertainty+3 | — | 22m 01s | ||
| 1/12/26 | WOF 524: The Dangers of Life Becoming Too Easy | In a recent episode of the Joe Rogan show, evolutionary biologist and public intellectual Bret Weinstein observed that two emerging features of contemporary societies, especially, though not exclusively in the West, are challenging the very meaning and purpose of human life: 1) the decoupling of human sexuality from human reproduction—defining sex primarily as recreational and 2) with the rise of AI and robotics, the real possibility that having a job will become entirely optional in the future. By secular standards, pursuing both of these goals seems entirely rational, if not laudable: raising children and going to work are, indeed, challenging, so why shouldn't we live in a world in which both become increasingly rare? Weinstein, however—who doesn't profess adherence to any religious tradition—suggests that humanity may lose something important, if not essential, if we continue down this path. Is he right to be concerned? Is it, in fact, wise to relegate having children and going to work—which defined how most people spent most of their adult lives throughout history—entirely to the realm of subjective preference? Or, in seeking ever greater freedom from these responsibilities, are we undermining what it means to live a fully human life? A listener asks: How can I respond to "God loves me the way I am"? Topics Covered: 00:00 | Introduction 01:39 | Bishop Barron's Christmas season 02:48 | Examining Bret Weinstein's grim assessment 06:36 | Procreation as a sign of the covenant 09:34 | Why not frame children through the lens of lifestyle choice? 13:23 | The valorization of personal choice 16:31 | What about celibate priests? 17:52 | Work and technology 23:42 | Can AI or robotics truly replace the human genius? 25:48 | Limitations for using AI 28:06 | The necessity of work in giving a gift 30:02 | Why can't technology help us create heaven on earth now? 33:01 | The active dimension of rest 37:03 | Join the Word on Fire Institute Links: Papal Encyclical, Humanae Vitae: Vatican website Word on Fire Institute: https://institute.wordonfire.org/ NOTE: Do you like this podcast? Become a Word on Fire IGNITE member! Word on Fire is a non-profit ministry that depends on the support of our listeners . . . like you! So become a part of this mission and join IGNITE today to become a Word on Fire insider and receive some special donor gifts for your generosity. | 37m 37s | ||||||
| 1/5/26 | WOF 523: The Grammar of Assent (10 of 12) | An Essay in Aid of a Grammar of Assent was Newman's most difficult work. While not a formal epistemology (theory of knowledge), Newman prompted a movement away from modern epistemology, stressing certainty that is best found in logic and mathematics, to common sense epistemology, affirming truth that is not absolutely certain. Bishop Barron explains why this epistemology is proper to religious knowledge, which includes notional and real assent. Topics Covered: Why assent is not certitude Religious Liberalism Notional and Real Assent Conscience Links: Article: A Meditation on the Grammar of Assent Video: Dr. Reinhard Huetter on Newman Word on Fire Institute: https://institute.wordonfire.org/ NOTE: Do you like this podcast? Become a Word on Fire IGNITE member! Word on Fire is a non-profit ministry that depends on the support of our listeners . . . like you! So become a part of this mission and join IGNITE today to become a Word on Fire insider and receive some special donor gifts for your generosity. | 21m 03s | ||||||
| 12/29/25 | WOF 522: What's It Like to Be a Catholic Bishop? | St. Pope John Paul the II memorably observed that the Catholic Church comes from the eucharist and that the eucharist, in turn, comes from priests. As Bishop Barron noted in a recent letter to his diocese, "by an inescapable logic [therefore] no priests, no Church." We should add, however, that priests come from bishops, which expands the ecclesial logic to this: no bishops, no priests; no priests, no eucharist; no eucharist, no church. In other words, bishops not only hold an important administrative position within the Church; tracing their authority back to the apostles and, ultimately, to Jesus Christ himself, they constitute the very sacramental and liturgical foundation of Catholicism itself. That, to say the least, is a weighty responsibility. So what is it like to be a bishop? How does one come to hold this office? What, specifically, do bishops have authority over–and what don't they have authority over? What kind of relationship do they have with each other and with the Holy Father, the pope? What are their day-to-day obligations and activities? And what are some challenges they face that both clergy and laity may not be aware of? A listener asks what made Bishop Barron want to be a priest. Topics Covered: 01:38 | Bishop Barron's Thanksgiving in Chicago 02:45 | The origins of the office of bishop 04:51 | The theological dimension of the bishop's role 06:41 | The liturgical symbols of the office 10:45 | Bishop Barron's coat of arms 12:12 | How does one become a bishop? 16:10 | How are dioceses formed? 17:20 | Relating bishop to archbishop 18:51 | Understanding the bishop's authority 20:03 | What is a chancery? 21:03 | Essential tasks of the bishop 29:38 | Bishop Barron's approach to his official duties 33:01 | The meaning and authority of a conference of bishops 37:19 | Myths about Catholic bishops 40:06 | Listener question: What made you become a priest? 41:41 | Join the Word on Fire Institute Links: United States Conference of Catholic Bishops: https://www.usccb.org/ Word on Fire Institute: https://institute.wordonfire.org/ NOTE: Do you like this podcast? Become a Word on Fire IGNITE member! Word on Fire is a non-profit ministry that depends on the support of our listeners . . . like you! So become a part of this mission and join IGNITE today to become a Word on Fire insider and receive some special donor gifts for your generosity. | 42m 15s | ||||||
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