Anthropic Beat OpenAI to the IPO

Anthropic Beat OpenAI to the IPO

From They Might Be Self-Aware by Daniel Bishop, Hunter Powers

June 12, 2026 · 44 min · Episode 189

About this episode

The episode discusses Anthropic's IPO filing and the implications for the AI industry amidst various financial considerations.

Anthropic beat OpenAI to the IPO. Step one of going public: write down everything wrong with you and file it with the government. Anthropic confidentially filed its S-1 with the SEC, SpaceX is pricing in the trillions, and the pension funds are along for the ride. Hunter Powers and Daniel Bishop explain what an S-1 actually discloses, then ask whether this is the AI bubble's cash-out moment or the industry growing up. They weigh ChatGPT's claimed billion users against Claude's 56 million, free local models like Google's Gemma 4 against the $200-a-month frontier plans, and DeepSeek V4 at one-hundredth the cost. Plus enterprise AI bills failing the ROI math, the quiet walkback of AI job-loss predictions, and why an AI employee still costs more than the human it would replace.

People in this episode

Hosts: Hunter Powers, Daniel Bishop

Topics covered

  • IPO
  • AI industry
  • investment
  • technology
  • job market
  • financial disclosures

Keywords

  • IPO
  • Anthropic
  • OpenAI
  • AI bubble
  • investment
  • ChatGPT
  • Claude
  • DeepSeek V4
  • financial disclosures

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Anthropic, OpenAI, SEC, SpaceX

Products: ChatGPT, Claude, Google's Gemma 4, DeepSeek V4

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