How we evaluate traction

How we evaluate traction

From Traction Lab Podcast by JDM and Cameron Law

May 2, 2026 · 39 min

About this episode

The episode discusses the Strength of Evidence Matrix and how it evaluates traction through various business scenarios.

Hey friends 👋 Six paying customers. $4,800 MRR. The founder already knows which two to discount. Same evidence. Cameron gives it an 8. JDM gives it a 6. That’s the conversation the Strength of Evidence Matrix is built for. This week, we dig into the Strength of Evidence Matrix — one of the core Traction Lab tools. It evaluates your traction on two axes: how robust is the signal (from interest to intent), and how independent is the source (from affiliated to cold). Most founders count their evidence. This framework grades it — and most of the time, the grade is a lot worse than it looks. From a pet emergency app drowning in warm surveys, to a background check SaaS with real revenue but one cold customer keeping the whole signal honest, to a B2B platform that made it from their rolodex all the way to a cold annual contract — we run three scenarios through the matrix and rate each on the conviction scale. There’s even a JDM-Cameron split on the last one. JDM’s three-year Lord of the Rings marathon is almost over. Cameron just watched the GuLP team take fifth place and $10K in Minneapolis. As always, thanks for listening. —Cameron and JDM Resources: * High Conviction Happy Hour…

People in this episode

Hosts: Cameron, JDM

Topics covered

  • traction evaluation
  • Strength of Evidence Matrix
  • founder insights
  • business scenarios
  • conviction scale

Keywords

  • traction
  • evidence matrix
  • business evaluation
  • founder insights
  • conviction scale

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Traction Lab Venture School, GuLP

Books & works: Lord of the Rings

Places: Minneapolis

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