Two Plus Two: The Swinger Podcast for Couples

For the first time, Zack and Josie recorded an episode of Two Plus Two entirely on their own—and they had plenty to talk about. They share the highs and lows of their first Naughty N’awlins experience, an event they had heard only positive things about.In a little nod to their previous conversation about taboo, they stepped well outside their normal routine and had five back-to-back play experiences, playing every day they were there. They discuss the positives and negatives of doing that and share some unexpected consequences. They each weigh in on whether they would repeat five days of consecutive play and what they may do differently.They attended workshops for the first time and experienced a dungeon tasting, where Josie was introduced to e-stim and the violet wand. She enjoyed the experience enough to purchase a violet wand of her own from The Dungeon Store.And then there’s the secret Brad repeatedly teased them about: How can you tell whether a play session is going to be good before you actually play? Zack and Josie finally reveal what they believe is the answer and discuss whether they would still play if they suspected the experience might not be great—or simply walk away and have sex with each other instead.Josie also reveals a shift in her mindset from “give me reasons to say yes” to “give me reasons to say no,” leading to a conversation about how their approach to play has evolved. They briefly share their experience at Colette and invite listeners to weigh in on whether they prioritize quantity or quality in their own experiences by joining the conversation on Peaches’nCream.Support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Overall vibe of Naughty N’awlins and host hotels(00:06:27) Our first ever workshops(00:14:42) Dungeon tasting and the violet wand(00:19:50) We made connections prior to the event(00:26:31) We were naughty at Naughty(00:28:04) Our experience of Colette(00:31:56) Back to back play experiences(00:37:58) Quality over quantity(00:40:28) The negatives at Naughty(00:42:51) The health related negatives after Naughty(00:47:27) What we’ll do differently next timeWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!INVITE CODE: 2PLUS2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://web.peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠[email protected]⁠Want to be a guest? Start with our guest application and tell us all about yourselves!https://twoplustwopodcast.com/guest/ResourcesBook a Cruise or Your Trip to Temptation or Desirehttps://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/The Dungeon Storewww.TheDungeonStore.com

Zack and Josie welcome new guests Rick and Gwen for a conversation about their unique journey navigating the lifestyle together. After meeting a little over a year ago, the two began building their connection while exploring how the lifestyle would fit into their relationship.When they met, Gwen was already a unicorn in the lifestyle, while Rick brought extensive experience as a pleasure Dom. Together, they have had to navigate the changes that came with shifting from individual experiences to exploring as a couple. They share the growing pains, lessons learned, and how they continue to support each other’s interests and desires.Gwen talks about how she discovered the lifestyle and what keeps her drawn to it, while Rick shares his journey of finding a place for his BDSM interests with partners who genuinely enjoy those dynamics.The conversation also dives into the challenges singles often face in the lifestyle, including feelings of loneliness and navigating connections without the built-in support of a partner. Rick and Gwen discuss the differences between solo experiences and couple experiences, including the unique bond couples can build when they reconnect and share their adventures together.This episode explores connection, communication, evolving roles, and the ways relationships can grow when partners embrace each other’s authentic selves.Support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Gwen’s journey into the lifestyle as a unicorn(00:05:52) Rick’s BDSM journey(00:09:55) BDSM doesn’t interest Gwen, but she respects his desire for it(00:12:11) The pleasure Dom(00:18:00) Rick and Gwen met on Feeld(00:22:42) Building a relationship while navigating the lifestyle together(00:26:57) Perceptions and expectations (00:32:25) Prejudice, judgment and communication(00:37:24) Adventure, community and connection(00:40:59) The octopus(00:46:50) Parallel play, play dynamics(00:50:42) Navigating feelings and connections(00:55:48) Chemistry, emotional connection and meaningful love(01:00:31) Attraction and communicating interestWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!INVITE CODE: 2PLUS2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://web.peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠[email protected]⁠Want to be a guest? Start with our guest application and tell us all about yourselves!https://twoplustwopodcast.com/guest/ResourcesBook Your Trip to Temptation or Desirehttps://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/Rick’s Photography Business​​https://www.instagram.com/polymathphotoGwen’s Coaching Businesshttps://theopendynamic.com/

Brad and Jenni return to join Zack and Josie for a candid conversation about lifestyle parties, attraction, connection, and the many factors that shape our experiences.The couples explore their different approaches to the lifestyle and how they balance socializing, friendships, sexual chemistry, and play experiences. They discuss the excitement that comes with meeting someone new, the thrill of the chase, and why familiar connections can offer a completely different kind of reward.Along the way, they tackle some of the more challenging aspects of the lifestyle—reading interest, communicating attraction, navigating rejection, and dealing with the uncertainty that comes when another couple suddenly goes quiet. The conversation also examines how intentions can shift before and during an event, depending on everything from chemistry with others to the connection they're feeling with their own partner.From "taking one for the team" to choosing quality connections over simply collecting experiences, this episode offers an honest look at the decisions, assumptions, and conversations that happen behind the scenes at lifestyle parties. Whether you're drawn to the excitement of new possibilities or the comfort of established connections, you'll likely find yourself somewhere in this discussion.Support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) We never go into a party expecting to play(00:02:14) Undiscovered possibilities(00:04:34) Intentions can change based on many factors(00:07:05) No expectations(00:09:10) We always go with the intention to play if we make a connection(00:11:11) Shiny new vs tried and true(00:12:07) Rejection sucks(00:14:58) It may have nothing to do with you and you may never know ‘why’(00:19:52) Processing rejection(00:22:26) There are lots of reasons why people may cancel(00:27:28) The chase vs familiarity(00:29:45) Energy can change in subsequent experiences with the same people(00:31:58) Would you rather…(00:33:17) The lifestyle draws people who want new experiences(00:35:34) Taking one for the team(00:39:55) Sex with other people is like a box of chocolates(00:43:24) Friendships vs play partners(00:45:50) Lifestyle friends you don’t play with(00:48:12) Jenni’s I Love Cliterature book club(00:49:43) An interesting question to consider(00:54:44) Boundaries…is kissing okay?(00:57:41) Discernment in choosing play experiencesWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!INVITE CODE: 2PLUS2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://web.peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠[email protected]⁠Want to be a guest? Start with our guest application and tell us all about yourselves!https://twoplustwopodcast.com/guest/ResourcesBook Your Trip to Temptation or Desirehttps://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/Suzie Webster Author Pagehttps://amzn.to/4rXPfOx

Zack and Josie welcome first-time guests Ed and Sarah to the podcast for a fun and unexpectedly relatable lifestyle origin story. What began as a promotional opportunity for Sarah—a former Playboy model—quickly turned into something they never saw coming when they unknowingly arrived at a lifestyle resort.After noticing some unusual interactions between guests, a kind older woman finally pulled them aside and explained exactly where they were…and what everyone was doing there. Rather than running for the exit, Ed and Sarah found themselves drawn to the welcoming atmosphere, body confidence, and freedom of simply being “super naked” around friendly, open-minded people.For several years, that was enough. But on a later trip, an effortless connection with another attractive couple changed everything, leading to their first full swap experience and opening the door to a whole new chapter together.It’s a story about accidental discovery, organic connection, and how sometimes the lifestyle finds you before you ever go looking for it. Support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Ladies Love Desire Facebook page(00:02:12) Deer in headlights(00:03:12) Playboy model turned lifestyle resort promoter(00:04:36) These people are really friendly(00:06:28) We got ‘super naked’ at Desire(00:07:12) I wanted women to feel comfortable and welcome(00:08:33) Nothing happened for the first several visits to Desire(00:11:44) We met a really cute couple(00:14:34) It was all we talked about for months(00:18:09) It has become this amazing community of women(00:24:35) Women from the group send sexy pics on husbands’ birthdays(00:29:08) Am I normal questions(00:32:25) Temptations is a non-stop party(00:35:00) We were just sitting next to the bar minding our own business(00:40:43) Temptations vs Desire Pearl vs DRM(00:45:25) You can take her to your room…what am I supposed to do with her?(00:47:52) I’ve always been bi-curious(00:49:16) Theme nights and dressing sexy(00:51:20) Fashion for women over 40 We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!INVITE CODE: 2PLUS2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://web.peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠[email protected]⁠Want to be a guest? Start with our guest application and tell us all about yourselves!https://twoplustwopodcast.com/guest/ResourcesBook Your Trip to Temptation or Desirehttps://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/Ladies Love Desire Facebook Pagehttps://www.facebook.com/groups/LadiesLoveDesireSarah’s Instagram Fashion Accounthttps://www.instagram.com/stylinbysarah_/Suzie Webster Author Pagehttps://amzn.to/4rXPfOx

Drew and Suzie are back for a wide-ranging conversation with Zack and Josie about fantasies—where they come from, how they evolve, and why they don’t always follow logic.Drawing from her experience as an erotica author, Suzie shares how deeply she engages with both her own fantasies and those of others, emphasizing that the most powerful turn-ons often center around connection, comfort, and undeniable chemistry. The group explores how compersion weaves its way into many of their fantasies, and why watching others can be such an intense and exciting experience.They also unpack an important idea: fantasies don’t need to make sense—and trying to overanalyze them can cause them to lose their appeal. Just because something is a turn-on doesn’t mean it’s something that needs to be acted on, a perspective Josie reinforces with insight she’s gained from her doctor and host of The PG Spot.The conversation touches on anticipation and “the reveal,” the role of storytelling in building desire, and what it looks like when long-held fantasies shift from imagination into real-life experiences. Along the way, they also discuss how they’ve helped other couples explore their own desires and expand their boundaries in ways they may not have considered before.Thoughtful, playful, and honest, this episode offers a high-level look at fantasies without overcomplicating them—while still leaving plenty to think about.Support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Fantasies are an occupational necessity(00:03:20) Fantasies with compersion at the core(00:05:20) Suzie’s books(00:07:15) Fantasizing about someone else’s reality(00:11:06) Fantasies don’t have to be realistic(00:12:37) Compersion and voyeurism(00:14:10) Start with the unknown(00:15:27) A glimpse of nudity can be hotter than full nudity(00:17:32) ‘The reveal’(00:19:43) From sexually shut down to sexual experimentation(00:21:54) Fucklicking(00:26:15) Expanding your circle of comfort(00:28:57) Acting out your fantasies with play partners(00:32:20) Vulnerability breeds vulnerability(00:34:33) Being told sometimes easier than asking for permission(00:36:37) FaceTime play sessions(00:42:00) FMF threesome vs a foursome(00:45:20) Taking and sharing videos of play sessions(00:48:12) Why foursomes are perfect(00:50:56) Future plans…fantasies fulfilledWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://web.peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠INVITE CODE: 2PLUS2Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠[email protected]⁠Want to be a guest? Start with our guest application and tell us all about yourselves!https://twoplustwopodcast.com/guest/Zack’s reference to Josie’s masturbation storyEp 62: Sexy Swinger Confessions: Yay, Nay, May, or Oh, I’ve Played Round 3 at 00:17:00ResourcesSuzie Webster Author Pagehttps://amzn.to/4rXPfOxThePGSpot Podcasthttps://open.spotify.com/show/4vUEHaqFfytqT99PVdLpcr?si=102cd36b32a5474e

Zack and Josie are joined once again by Drew and Suzie as they unpack their first Bliss Cruise experience—while also explaining why they’ve come to jokingly refer to their Virgin Voyages trips as “Swinger Light.”From their first Bliss sailing—dubbed The Sexy Sampler Cruise—to comparing the overall vibe, they dive into the differences between the two cruise experiences. They break down everything from cost and crowd to how (and where) people express themselves, both subtly and unapologetically.But what truly sets Bliss apart? The intention behind it. Together, they reflect on how the meet ‘n greets, workshops, and curated experiences create a sense of connection and inclusivity for every dynamic, every curiosity, and every comfort level.One of the most powerful moments of the episode comes when Drew opens up about a deeply personal experience in the dungeon on the final night. As someone who’s used to being in control in every area of his life, stepping into a submissive role offered something unexpected—a release. Supported by Suzie and Lady Lethal, the experience became more than just physical; it created an intense emotional connection between the couple that carried far beyond that night.Zack and Josie reflect on their own journey this cruise—why it ended up being their favorite Bliss experience yet, despite not loving the ship itself. By letting go of expectations and focusing on what they genuinely enjoy, they found themselves in more organic, meaningful moments.They also revisit the highly anticipated Dance ‘n Play, sharing why it didn’t quite hit the same this time—and how something as simple as room layout can completely shift the energy of a space.From instant connections with new couples to lessons on trust, communication, and trying things more than once, this episode is a mix of playful honesty and deeper reflection on what makes these experiences so impactful.Support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) ‘Swinger Light’ Virgin Cruises(00:01:33) Our first Bliss Cruise…the Sexy Sampler(00:03:42) Finding lifestyle people on a vanilla [Virgin] cruise(00:05:28) Dressing provocatively on a vanilla cruise(00:07:24) Cruising for foodies(00:08:12) Cost comparison Bliss vs Virgin(00:10:42) Bliss meet ‘n greets and workshops(00:14:08) Drew, Suzie and Lady Lethal (00:23:23) Organic experiences are the best experiences(00:26:35) Dance ‘n Play: daytime foam parties vs evening playroom(00:31:45) Do anything at least twice(00:34:40) Trust in your partner and your agreements(00:41:24) We meet a couple we clicked with immediately(00:42:52) We missed the Royal Caribbean Promenade and dance floor(00:48:25) Parting thoughtsWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://web.peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠INVITE CODE: 2PLUS2⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠[email protected]⁠ResourcesSuzie Webster Author Pagehttps://amzn.to/4rXPfOx

In this episode, the Two Plus Two crew dives into a topic that can quietly shape the lifestyle experience: close friend groups and the perception of cliques.They start by unpacking what a “clique” really is. Is it intentional exclusivity? Or is it simply comfort, chemistry, and shared history that naturally draw certain people together? The conversation explores whether people inside these tight-knit circles even realize how they’re perceived—and how it feels to be on the outside looking in.The crew reflects candidly on their own experience traveling together to Lake Havasu last year, admitting that while they never intended to be seen as a clique, they may have given that impression. They dig into the nuances of introducing close friends to other friends, navigating attraction that isn’t universal, and managing group dynamics when not everyone clicks. They emphasize that you don’t have to play together to build meaningful friendships—and that connection in the lifestyle is highly specific and deeply personal.Brad and Brittany also open up about being the “hub” of multiple friendships and what that role can bring: balancing attention, fearing they might interfere with others’ potential connections, and trying to create space for everyone to feel included. The group discusses how personality differences show up in social settings—especially for those who are less dominant in group situations—and how comparison can quietly creep in, even among people who genuinely support one another.They explore how perception fuels comparison, how easy it is to measure your real life against someone else’s highlight reel, and how that mindset can distort reality. Throughout the conversation, they return to a grounding theme: control what you can, accept what you can’t, and focus on building authentic connections instead of competing narratives.By the end, the question remains: are cliques truly forming in the lifestyle, or are they sometimes just reflections of our own perspective? The Two Plus Two crew invites you to examine your assumptions, embrace openness, and remember that comfort and community don’t have to come at the expense of inclusion.Support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Clits or cliques?(00:03:43) What’s a clique(00:04:40) Is it a clique or is it just comfortable?(00:08:08) Being perceived as part of a clique?(00:10:08) Introducing close friends to other friends(00:12:47) You don’t have to fuck to be friends(00:14:20) Attraction and connection is very specific(00:17:43) Navigating group dynamics when not everyone clicks(00:20:47) Traveling with friends(00:24:12) We navigate lifestyle travel differently(00:26:49) Being a less dominant personality in a group situation(00:29:30) We really see each other but comparison still happens(00:34:11) Perception is a key element of comparison(00:36:30) Comparing your real life to someone’s highlight real(00:39:41) Comparing your life to the best of everyone else’s lives(00:43:51) Control what you can control and accept what you can’t(00:47:13) Focusing on making new connections(00:51:41) Being the hub of multiple friendships(00:54:34) Fear of interfering with our friends’ potential connections(00:58:59) It’s hard not to make comparisons(01:00:26) Dance and Play and the dick shot(01:02:51) Cliques may be just your perceptionWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://web.peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠INVITE CODE: 2PLUS2⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠[email protected]⁠

Round Three is officially underway — and the confessions are bolder, kinkier, and even more revealing than before. In this latest installment of Sexy Swinger Confessions: Yay, Nay, May, or Oh, I’ve Played, the Two Plus Two crew jumps back into the game that always sparks laughter, honesty, and a few jaw-dropping moments.From golden showers and nipple clamps to role-playing throwbacks and risky public encounters, the hosts break down what’s an enthusiastic yes, a hard no, a curious maybe, and what’s already been checked off the lifestyle bucket list. The conversation heats up as they dive into pegging, degradation play, anonymous experiences, trains, all-girl fun, tantric connections, and even consensual non-consensual dynamics — all with their signature mix of humor, vulnerability, and real-world perspective.As always, this round isn’t just about shock value. It’s about communication, boundaries, curiosity, and how different desires show up in real relationships.Pour a drink, settle in, and get ready for another round of sexy, unfiltered swinger confessions that might just have you rethinking your own Yay, Nay, or May list. Support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Here we go! Round Three!!(00:01:47) Golden showers…and peeing with a hard-on(00:06:22) Nipple clamps(00:09:58) Role Playing…a long trip back into the memory banks(00:14:05) Public sex…and the riskiest place you’ve done it(00:21:54) Pegging(00:28:41) Degradation or humiliation play(00:31:06) Anonymous or masked play(00:38:26) Train(00:45:17) All girl play(00:49:44) Tantric or slow sex(00:55:34) Consensual non-consensual (CNC)We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://web.peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠INVITE CODE: 2PLUS2⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠[email protected]

Sometimes the healthiest move a couple can make in the lifestyle is to step back.In this episode, the Two Plus Two crew open up about taking breaks—why they happen, how they feel, and what they can reveal about a relationship. Each host shares personal and vulnerable reasons they’ve needed to pause, from forced breaks due to health concerns to intentional step-backs caused by disconnection, burnout, and shifts in intimacy.The discussion centers on the reality that while the lifestyle can be meaningful and fulfilling, it should never take priority over a couple’s relationship, mental health, or family. Navigating that balance can be difficult, especially when trying to remain connected with lifestyle friends without coming across as dismissive, cold, or overly descriptive.This episode explores the emotional and sexual impact of stepping away, including frustration, regret, and the compounding effects of unmet needs. The hosts discuss the importance of trusting instincts, using protection, and communicating where they are emotionally—even when clarity is still forming. They also talk through the challenges of re-engaging after a break, determining when abstaining or testing is appropriate, and reflecting on what they would do differently moving forward.For anyone who has questioned whether it’s acceptable to pause, felt pressure to keep up, or struggled with timing and communication, this episode reinforces an important truth: taking a step back can be healthy, necessary, and relationship-strengthening.Sometimes, timing really is everything.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Defining ‘taking a break’(00:02:41) Exposure to a MGen forced a break(00:04:43) The negative impact to our intimacy and closeness(00:06:03) Disconnection, irritation and regret(00:07:39) Follow your instincts and use protection even in external play(00:09:24) Re-engaging in the lifestyle(00:11:04) You need the release(00:12:20) It compounds and you get ‘backed up’(00:14:27) How do we re-engage after our forced break(00:16:27) Crawling through 1,000 yards of shit(00:18:47) Determining what we each want to communicating that(00:20:40) Is there a universal message here somewhere?(00:22:00) Knowing when abstaining and/or testing is appropriate(00:25:32) What we’ll do differently(00:27:36) Where there’s smoke there’s fire(00:28:27) Early on we had to step out of the lifestyle(00:33:34) The spoon theory(00:36:19) Your state of mind impacts your interest in sex(00:38:22) Communicating where you’re at without being specific(00:41:58) The podcast creates some additional challenges(00:43:00) This response gives you flexibility related to your timeline(00:46:59) Lifestyle people are supportive(00:48:08) Taking a step back is healthy and acceptable(00:49:33) Timing is everything We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://web.peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠INVITE CODE: 2PLUS2⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠[email protected]

Callie is back—returning guest from our STD episode—for a much-needed deep dive into women’s health in the lifestyle. Joined by Zack, Josie, and Brittany, this conversation tackles the realities many women face but rarely hear clearly explained, especially in non-monogamous spaces.We start by unpacking how women are often forced to crowdsource health advice from friends instead of providers, and why women’s health research has historically been overlooked. From there, Callie shares her professional experience alongside real-world frustrations many lifestyle women encounter with doctors who don’t ask the right questions—or don’t know what to test for.The episode covers prevention, testing frequency, and what actually spreads (spoiler: it’s not toilet seats). We dig into HSV, BV, vaginal pH changes, biological incompatibility, boric acid, probiotics, wipes, supplements, and how condoms, flavored lubes, hormones, IUDs, and HRT can all impact vaginal health. Callie also explains why standard NAAT tests can be limited, why specificity with your provider matters, and what to do if you think you’ve been exposed.We also explore the financial and logistical hurdles of testing, insurance limitations, responsibility to partners, and navigating the lifestyle while trying to conceive or managing conditions like Hashimoto’s. Throughout the conversation, one message stays clear: listen to your body, advocate for yourself, and find a provider you trust—even if it takes time.This episode is educational, candid, and empowering—because taking care of yourself is part of taking care of the people you play with.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Women often get health advice from other women(00:03:48) Specific study of women’s health has been ignored for a long time(00:05:19) Callie’s professional experience and our experiences of other professionals(00:07:12) Best methods of prevention and frequency of testing(00:08:42) HSV(00:10:06) Toilet seats may be dirty…but not responsible for STD’s(00:10:57) Annual exams and pap smears(00:14:52) Your pH and vaginal health can be impacted(00:16:01) Boric acid, cleaning and probiotics(00:17:12) pH wipes and biological incompatibility(00:17:55) Uqora and other supplements(00:21:28) This is not medical advice(00:23:05) Communicating effectively with your provider(00:27:30) What is Bacterial Vaginosis (BV) and how is it spread?(00:31:58) Condoms and flavored lubes(00:34:56) What to test for and frequency(00:38:43) NAAT tests are very basic tests and and are not specific(00:40:41) Be specific with your provider(00:42:42) Best course of action if you’ve been exposed(00:44:00) Some tests are expensive and insurance won’t cover them(00:45:34) Overcoming hurdles to testing(00:47:50) Being responsible in keeping others safe(00:49:21) Fluctuation in women’s bodies, hormones and the IUD(00:51:56) Trying to get pregnant and the lifestyle(00:53:12) Hashimoto’s and birth control(00:58:56) HRT(01:01:20) Listen to your body and find a doctor who you trust We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://web.peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠INVITE CODE: 2PLUS2⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠[email protected]

In this episode, Zack and Josie sit down with Roger and Jessica, a lifestyle couple whose journey has taken an unexpected turn — into an exclusive, emotionally connected relationship with another couple. After two years in the lifestyle, what began as group dates evolved into alternating date nights, overnight visits, out-of-state trips, and eventually a shared commitment they now describe as having a “boyfriend” and “girlfriend.”Roger and Jessica share how they’ve navigated parenting schedules, deepening emotional bonds, New Relationship Energy, and the intentional work they’ve done in counseling to build the tools needed for success. Even as their connection with their partner couple grows, they remain grounded in their marriage as their primary commitment — while also acknowledging that they genuinely love their boyfriend and girlfriend.We also explore how they define this relationship: Is it poly? Is it still “just” the lifestyle? Or is it something in-between? Roger and Jessica talk openly about the labels that fit — and the ones that don’t — as they shape a relationship model that feels authentic to them.With their own history of a four-way relationship that ended in divorce, Zack and Josie ask the tough questions: Is this beautiful connection also dangerous territory? What boundaries, agreements, and self-awareness does it take to make a relationship like this work? Join us as we unpack the practical, emotional, and relational realities of choosing exclusivity inside the lifestyle.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) It all started with a sexy dream(00:02:27) Lifestyle adjacent(00:03:15) Conversation and open communication(00:03:41) We had no idea what we were doing(00:05:42) We had a few FWB’s for about a year(00:07:44) We got into an exclusive relationship(00:10:19) Isn’t being exclusive dangerous territory?(00:14:20) Our deliberate approach(00:15:19) The love we feel for different people is different than the love we feel for each other(00:18:39) Communication, connection and boundaries(00:20:18) Play parameters(00:22:52) We are able to disconnect from daily life with our play partners(00:25:33) An open marriage…not poly(00:27:59) It isn’t always easy(00:29:25) We share the big things with each other, but not every detail(00:31:27) Insecurities and compersion(00:33:50) We experience things differently because it’s a different dynamic(00:34:35) Loving vs being in love(00:37:05) Staying focused on our mutual goals(00:39:13) Vulnerability creates closeness and excitement(00:40:52) An exclusive relationship solves some of the challenges of the lifestyle(00:42:47) Navigating lifestyle events in an exclusive relationship(00:44:58) One-on-one dates(00:45:36) Protecting our couple time and our family time(00:47:17) One-on-one overnights and travel with play partners(00:48:39) The more we do it the more comfortable it becomes(00:50:36) Overnights were initially terrifying(00:52:47) The kids are young and are unaware(00:58:35) Boyfriend / girlfriend titles We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://web.peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠INVITE CODE: 2PLUS2Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠[email protected]

To celebrate our first full year of Two Plus Two, we’re pulling back the curtain and sharing some of our favorite private conversations, outrageous stories, and unforgettable play moments. In this milestone episode, Zack and Josie revisit a fun, sexy, weird, and wonderfully awkward party encounter — and yes, they spill all the dirty details.Your Two Plus Two crew also has some fun shaking up the opener, including outtakes from Brad’s dramatic “sexy vampires” intro. We chat about a single vanilla guy who proudly declared himself a slut — and somehow ended up sharing his opinions on vaginas, STDs, and his vast collection of experiences. Zack and Josie also recount a hot play session with a pair of Two Plus Two listeners, and we open up about some of our own intimate moments with our partners along the way.From joking about handing out goodie bags at our orgies, to the guys teasing us about finishing their sentences, the conversation veers between playful, personal, and downright hilarious. Brad and Brittany share a wild lifestyle weekend story where Brittany’s insatiable sex drive turned Brad into a human Sybian — even after he tucked her into bed… more than once.We also laugh about how vanillas see swingers in public (and what happens when we let them in on the secret), and we dive into a conversation about Zack’s first wife being Mormon — which leads us into the curious world of “soaking” and “docking.”It’s raw, real, sexy, nostalgic, and the perfect way to celebrate one amazing year of stories, laughter, connection, and community.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) An intro mash up(00:01:02) The play by play of an interesting play experience(00:11:39) Outtakes and fun banter (00:12:39) Shweddy Balls and Sexy Vampires(00:14:10) Stinky vaginas and drippy penises(00:17:04) Mismatched experiences and revelations(00:19:39) A fun play experience with two of our listeners(00:25:17) I found a new button! (00:28:10) Fun marital banter(00:29:09) Orgy swag and vampire tattoos(00:29:49) Marital communication and ‘loss of words’(00:31:47) Intro change-up outtakes(00:34:20) Sugar lips…stroke my ego…stay humble(00:37:53) Body shaming, judgment, confidence and insecurity(00:40:50) Dressing for your bodytype(00:42:52) Podcast ‘celebrities’(00:46:27) FOMO and dirty martinis(00:48:06) She was like a little kid who wouldn’t stay in bed(00:50:26) She shredded a guitar on her clit(00:52:19) I had my dick flicked(00:55:01) Phone a friend(00:55:25) Those people are so friendly!(00:59:37) Soaking and docking(01:03:29) Ex bashing(01:06:34) We evolve and get better (01:09:01) Zack’s microphone and Josie’s music box(01:10:41) Josie’s karaoke machine(01:11:25) A sneaky lube run (01:13:02) A Mexican Special(01:14:12) Going down with Two Plus Two with Elevated Fun(01:16:10) Josie’s elevator impression We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://web.peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠INVITE CODE: 2PLUS2⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠[email protected]

Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany are back and gearing up for one of the biggest lifestyle trips of the year: the upcoming Bliss Cruise on Radiance of the Seas this February. From liberation and sexploration to planning, packing, and prepping, this episode dives into everything we’re excited about (and a few things we’re bracing for).We talk about the tighter February timeline, Zack’s ongoing love–hate relationship with Bliss, and what made our second cruise feel completely different from our first. We’re leveling up this year—starting with a pre-cruise stop at Trapeze and a plan to wander elevators, mics in hand, to capture spontaneous conversations with fellow cruisers.We share why our Bliss experience keeps getting better, how the Bliss app has become a total game-changer, and why fitting everything into one trip might be our biggest challenge yet. We also look ahead to Bliss’ 10th anniversary in 2026, review the theme nights for February, and remind everyone (again!) to take photos—because cover stories need photographic proof.If you’re heading on a Bliss Cruise soon—or just curious what these trips are really like—this episode offers excitement, insight, and a few laughs along the way.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Liberation, sexploration and letting go(00:04:05) A more condensed timeline in February(00:04:33) Zack’s love hate relationship(00:06:20) What was different from about our second Bliss vs our first(00:07:20) We plan to hang out in elevators and record conversations with people(00:08:19) Our experience gets better every time(00:10:45) This year we’re going to Trapeze before the cruise(00:15:18) The Bliss app is a game changer!(00:18:04) Fitting it all in may be challenging(00:19:52) Bliss’ 10th Anniversary November 2026(00:20:25) Theme Nights for Radiance Feb 2026(00:24:52) Remember to take photos!(00:25:35) Cover stories and photographic proof(00:31:35) What we’re looking forward to most(00:35:53) Taking back control and focusing on each other and our experience(00:38:16) Being inward focused creates energy that others are drawn to(00:40:59) We want to experience new things(00:43:54) STI testing and Mycoplasma genitalium(00:45:47) Other good cruise preparation tips(00:47:01) Re-entry is challengingClinical Immunity 10 Day IntensiveWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:mailto: ⁠⁠[email protected]