Unintended Racism: A Lesson Learned

Unintended Racism: A Lesson Learned

From What Say U? by Channel 253

November 5, 2025 · 59 min

About this episode

The episode discusses a moment of unintended racism during a leadership workshop and the lessons learned from it.

Guest: Marguerite Martin, Entrepreneur, Social Influencer, and alumna of the American Leadership Forum Tacoma/Pierce County Senior Fellows Program with Melannie In this honest and brave conversation, Melannie, Audrey, and Marguerite explore a moment from a leadership workshop where Marguerite unintentionally made racially hurtful comments toward Black men in the group—and Melannie checked her. Together they unpack: How the incident unfolded, from multiple perspectives. What it reveals about unintentional racism, power, identity, and belonging. Why the path to anti-racism is often messy, unpredictable, and requires resilience. How relationships, reflection, and accountability create openings for growth, healing, and deeper connection. This episode is less about blame and more about seeing, learning, and staying the course. Links American Leadership Forum Pierce County Intercultural Development Inventory Cycle of Socialization Channel 253 membership

People in this episode

Hosts: Melannie, Audrey

Guest: Marguerite Martin

Topics covered

  • unintentional racism
  • leadership
  • identity
  • belonging
  • anti-racism

Keywords

  • social influence
  • resilience
  • growth
  • healing
  • accountability

Mentioned in this episode

Products: Intercultural Development Inventory, Cycle of Socialization

Places: Tacoma

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