American Alchemy with Jesse Michels

Our Alchemist this week is Brazil’s former Minister of Defense, Aldo Rebelo. Please support the show by checking out our amazing sponsors below! Shopify: Start your business for just $1/month at https://shopify.com/jesse. Sponsored by Shopify, the commerce platform behind millions of businesses and 10% of all U.S. e-commerce. Cowboy Colostrum: Get 25% Off Cowboy Colostrum with code JESSE at https://cowboycolostrum.com/jesse Brazil's former Defense Minister and current presidential candidate Aldo Rebelo confirms the country has had contact with non-human intelligence dating back to at least the 70’s. He says that in 1977, in Colares, UFOs were injuring civilians in the Amazon with burns, puncture wounds and blood loss serious enough to trigger a classified military investigation. In 1986, six fighter jets were scrambled against 21 unidentified craft detected by radar – the objects were flying at Mach 20+ and making right angle turns, maneuvers well beyond the capabilities of the most advanced craft today. He also confirms that the 1996 Varginha UFO crash occurred, that non-human beings were encountered, and says he fully believes the neurosurgeon who came face to face with one of them in a hospital bed. He also confirms the American military would have had an immediate strategic interest in the case. Rebelo says there is more classified information about these cases and others, and that they should be released alongside America's. Rebelo’s confirmation of the events at Varginha is the equivalent of former Defense Ministers in the United States like Robert Baker or Jim Mattis saying Roswell happened; its world history that can’t be walked back. And it ends decades of condescension and gaslighting from top ranking officials on this topic. -------------------------- Support Our Other Projects Below! Grab Your American Alchemy Merch Here ➤ https://www.americanalchemymerch.com/ Join The American Alchemy Magazine Here ➤ https://americanalchemymagazine.substack.com/ Subscribe To Our Clips Channel (10 Minute Highlights!) ➤ https://www.youtube.com/@UC8ZKTXN9trt5dhixz6b6l6w -------------------------- JOIN OUR WHOP (Early/Ad Free Episodes) ➤ https://whop.com/jessemichels Instagram ➤ https://www.instagram.com/jessemichelsofficial TikTok ➤ https://www.tiktok.com/@itsjessemichels X ➤ https://twitter.com/AlchemyAmerican Spotify ➤ https://tinyurl.com/jessemichelsspotify Clips Channel ➤ https://www.youtube.com/@JesseMichelsClips Apply For Jobs ➤ apply@jessemichelsmedia.com Sponsor Inquiries ➤ sponsor@jessemichelsmedia.com Media Inquiries ➤ media@jessemichelsmedia.com Timestamps: 0:00 - Introduction 0:00 - Introduction 4:30 - Sponsors (Shopify, Cowboy Colostrum) 6:38 - Guest Introduction 8:08 - Rebelo's First UFO Interest 10:10 - Brazil's Three Major UFO Cases 11:02 - Colares: Chupa Chupa Attacks 14:14 - Operation Prato Still Classified 16:48 - Theories on Colares 19:53 - Disclosure and National Secrets 23:13 - UFOs, Religion, and Brazil 27:41 - Sagan, Science, and Fiction 31:01 - Brazil's Night of UFOs 1986 36:27 - Were UFOs Man-Made? 41:46 - Would Rebelo Open the Files? 50:12 - Varginha 1996: The Crash 55:56 - The Varginha ET 56:59 - Dr. Venturelli's Testimony 1:01:52 - US Military at Varginha 1:07:54 - Inside Brazil's Defense Ministry 1:11:11 - Rebelo Confirms Varginha Was Real 1:12:01 - Alien Bacteria and Soldier's Death 1:22:12 - Researcher Shot at Investigating Varginha 1:26:39 - Why Politicians Ignore UFOs 1:29:18 - Rebelo the Philosopher-Politician 1:38:04 - AI, Harari, and the Vatican 1:42:05 - US Reverse Engineering Programs 1:45:42 - Why Disclosure Is Happening Now 1:51:54 - Ubatuba UFO Metal Fragment 1:54:22 - Communist to Nationalist: Rebelo's Journey 2:02:24 - BRICS and Brazil's Future 2:05:56 - Party Controversy and Candidacy 2:07:08 - National Unity Vision 2:14:06 - Brazil, US, and China 2:20:09 - Brazil's UFO Reporting Mandate 2:23:01 - UFOs and Rare Earth 2:29:10 - Brazilian Soccer and Neymar 2:35:21 - Closing Remarks 2:37:02 - Outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our American Alchemist this week is Donald Hoffman. Sign Up With Our Sponsors Below For Exclusive Alchemy Deals! Qualia: Curious about creatine? Go to https://qualialife.com/JESSE to get 50% off and save an extra 15% with the code JESSE. Factor: Head to https://Factormeals.com/alchemy50off and use code alchemy50off to get 50% off Superpower: Go to https://Superpower.com and use code ALCHEMY for $20 off your membership this year. Take the guesswork out of getting healthy in 2026. Get full body testing that goes 5x deeper than an annual physical and a personalized action plan that tells you exactly what to do next. All for just $199. Donald Hoffman spent 40 years building a mathematical framework he calls the recursive trace logic. It starts with one assumption: consciousness is fundamental, not physics. From there the math takes over. He can already derive time dilation, length contraction, and quantum wave functions from these hidden markov matrices. He has nine open conjectures that, if proven, would subsume both general relativity and quantum field theory as trivial special cases of a more general theory of observation. John Wheeler cited his 1989 book on observer mechanics in the It From Bit paper. Nima Arkani-Hamed and Nobel laureate David Gross are arriving at the same conclusion from the physics side: spacetime is doomed. -------------------------- Support Our Other Projects Below! Grab Your American Alchemy Merch Here ➤ https://www.americanalchemymerch.com/ Join The American Alchemy Magazine Here ➤ https://americanalchemymagazine.substack.com/ Subscribe To Our Clips Channel (10 Minute Highlights!) ➤ https://www.youtube.com/@UC8ZKTXN9trt5dhixz6b6l6w -------------------------- JOIN OUR WHOP (Early/Ad Free Episodes) ➤ https://whop.com/jessemichels Instagram ➤ https://www.instagram.com/jessemichelsofficial TikTok ➤ https://www.tiktok.com/@itsjessemichels X ➤ https://twitter.com/AlchemyAmerican Spotify ➤ https://tinyurl.com/jessemichelsspotify Clips Channel ➤ https://www.youtube.com/@JesseMichelsClips Apply For Jobs ➤ apply@jessemichelsmedia.com Sponsor Inquiries ➤ sponsor@jessemichelsmedia.com Media Inquiries ➤ media@jessemichelsmedia.com Timestamps: 0:00 - Introduction 2:04 - Sponsor (Factor) 3:30 - Fitness Beats Perception 7:00 - The Desktop Interface 13:26 - Near-Death & Remote Viewing 20:42 - Disembodied Consciousness 30:13 - Sponsors (Superpower, Qualia) 35:20 - Hacking Perception 46:15 - The Hard Problem 58:13 - Wheeler, Leibniz & Observers 1:01:13 - Recursive Trace Logic 1:15:12 - UAP & The Trace Logic 1:28:23 - Consciousness As Primitive 1:33:25 - Space-Time Is Doomed 1:39:12 - AI, Minsky & Mike Levin 1:47:02 - UFOs At Exit Points 1:53:46 - The Amplituhedron 2:06:41 - Quantum Interpretations 2:21:37 - Higher Intelligences 2:28:06 - Unity of Consciousness 2:34:05 - Do You Believe In God? 2:44:13 - The Table Doesn't Exist 2:52:13 - Infinite Alien Intelligences 3:01:07 - Trace Logic As AI 3:18:38 - Outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our American Alchemist this week is Jake Barber’s Sentinels of Ether. Producer Application: Email us at apply@jessemichelsmedia.com Sign Up With Our Sponsors Below For Exclusive Alchemy Deals! Incogni: Take your personal data back with Incogni! Use code AMERICANALCHEMY at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/americanalchemy Plaud: Head to plaud.ai/alchemy to learn more and use code ALCHEMY10 at checkout. Thanks so much to Plaud for sponsoring today’s episode. Mudwtr: Start your new morning ritual & get up to 43% off your @MUDWTR with code JESSE at https://mudwtr.com/JESSE! #mudwtrpod -------------------------- Support Our Other Projects Below! Grab Your American Alchemy Merch Here ➤ https://www.americanalchemymerch.com/ Join The American Alchemy Magazine Here ➤ https://americanalchemymagazine.substack.com/ Subscribe To Our Clips Channel (10 Minute Highlights!) ➤ https://www.youtube.com/@UC8ZKTXN9trt5dhixz6b6l6w -------------------------- JOIN OUR WHOP (Early/Ad Free Episodes) ➤ https://whop.com/jessemichels Instagram ➤ https://www.instagram.com/jessemichelsofficial TikTok ➤ https://www.tiktok.com/@itsjessemichels X ➤ https://twitter.com/AlchemyAmerican Spotify ➤ https://tinyurl.com/jessemichelsspotify Clips Channel ➤ https://www.youtube.com/@JesseMichelsClips Apply For Jobs ➤ apply@jessemichelsmedia.com Sponsor Inquiries ➤ sponsor@jessemichelsmedia.com Media Inquiries ➤ media@jessemichelsmedia.com Timestamps: 0:00 Inside the black UFO program 1:13 The May 8 Department of War UFO drop 4:19 NASA's astronaut sightings problem (Gene Cernan) 6:55 Who is Jake Barber? 8:21 Sentinels of Ether: the book the Pentagon redacted 9:13 What this episode covers 10:56 Sponsor: Incogni 12:32 The Toughbooks operation 14:52 EMP weapons and downed aircraft 16:09 Using DOPSR redactions as a discovery tool 17:37 Coyame, Mexico: Mexico's Roswell 20:38 The novel begins — Alex McEwen's extraction 22:03 Refugees as psionic cargo 23:24 The ambush and execution 26:26 JSOC and the Secretary of Defense 28:30 F-18 chase through the canyon 31:46 Sponsor: Plaud 33:23 The mountain that swallows aircraft 37:20 Jake at Greer's National Press Club event 38:45 Michael Herrera's Indonesia testimony 42:05 Harvesting psionic assets abroad 43:57 Who guards the crash sites? 45:02 Is the mountain a hologram? 48:13 Sponsor: MUD\WTR 49:46 Foglets and programmable matter 55:41 Smart dust, Ben Rich, and buried tech 58:45 Psionics: summoning UFOs with the mind 1:00:33 How to call a craft (CE5 / coherent thought) 1:05:02 The dark side: drugged, chipped "pink assets" 1:07:24 The human mind as a psychic joystick 1:08:47 Lockheed insiders on mind-controlled flight 1:10:55 John Norseen and biofusion 1:15:38 Norseen's mysterious death 1:17:12 The Lockheed lineage continues (Charles Chase) 1:18:56 DARPA N3, Battelle, and Brainstorms 1:20:34 The Salvatore Pais Navy patent 1:21:21 Three layers: interface + craft + psionic 1:22:06 Sedona and Bradshaw Ranch 1:24:41 The tunnel and deep underground bases 1:26:21 Skinwalker Ranch 1:28:52 Remote viewers and a network of mountain bases 1:30:23 The breakaway civilization thesis 1:32:57 The real secret: hiding us from ourselves 1:35:18 We're hiring (American Alchemy) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our American Alchemist this week is Rolf Mowatt-Larssen. Sign Up With Our Sponsors Below For Exclusive Alchemy Deals! KetoneIQ: Visit https://ketone.com/ALCHEMY for 30% OFF your subscription order PLUS receive a free gift with your second shipment—or find Ketone-IQ at Target stores nationwide and get your first shot free! Shopify: Start your business for just $1/month at https://shopify.com/jesse. Sponsored by Shopify, the commerce platform behind millions of businesses and 10% of all U.S. e-commerce. Superpower: Superpower: Take the guesswork out of getting healthy in 2026. Get full body testing that goes 5x deeper than an annual physical and a personalized action plan that tells you exactly what to do next. All for just $199. Go to https://Superpower.com and use code ALCHEMY] for $20 off your membership this year. -------------------------- Support Our Other Projects Below! Grab Your American Alchemy Merch Here ➤ https://www.americanalchemymerch.com/ Join The American Alchemy Magazine Here ➤ https://americanalchemymagazine.substack.com/ Subscribe To Our Clips Channel (10 Minute Highlights!) ➤ https://www.youtube.com/@UC8ZKTXN9trt5dhixz6b6l6w -------------------------- JOIN OUR WHOP (Early Drops/Ad Free) ➤ https://whop.com/jessemichels Discord ➤https://discord.gg/crHc44m3kF Instagram ➤ https://www.instagram.com/jessemichelsofficial TikTok ➤ https://www.tiktok.com/@itsjessemichels X ➤ https://twitter.com/AlchemyAmerican Spotify ➤ https://tinyurl.com/jessemichelsspotify Clips Channel ➤ https://www.youtube.com/@JesseMichelsClips Apply For Jobs ➤ apply@jessemichelsmedia.com Sponsor Inquiries ➤ sponsor@jessemichelsmedia.com Media Inquiries ➤ mike@jessemichelsmedia.com Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 6:37 A State of Mind 9:59 CIA and Spirituality 13:16 The CIA's Dark Side 13:47 9/11 and Its Aftermath 15:53 Weapons of Mass Destruction 17:48 Briefing the President 19:34 The Iraq War Decisions 24:08 Reflections on War 27:31 Nuclear Threats 31:01 Mystical Experiences 40:50 The Journey to Mount Athos 1:08:25 A Dream State Awakening 1:16:12 The Reality of Dreaming 1:19:19 Spiritual Growth Through Flight 1:22:50 The Dream Sequence 1:24:53 The Final Door and Revelation 1:25:13 A Night on the Beach 1:26:50 The Dream Begins 1:29:21 Encounter with the Virgin Mary 1:31:53 Monk Timotheus 1:35:59 Journey to Mount Athos 1:39:47 Life as Odius Maximus 1:42:34 Revelations with Evagrius 1:52:16 The Virgin Mary’s Message 2:01:45 Discussion on Faith 2:14:53 Culmination of Experiences 2:18:19 Response from the Vatican 2:39:04 Crisis in Moscow 2:44:21 Meeting Vladimir Putin 2:52:05 Understanding Russia's Identity 2:54:14 The Role of Individuality in Society 2:55:45 The Concept of Individual Rights 3:00:22 A Life-Changing Experience on a Train 3:05:32 Exploring the Meaning of Faith 3:10:56 The Conflict of Duty and Belief 3:19:58 The Secrets of the Department of Energy 3:32:26 The Nature of Secrecy in Government 3:54:03 Anticipating a Paradigm Shift 4:05:23 The Intersection of Faith and Reality 4:18:28 The Path of Selflessness in Humanity Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our American Alchemists this week are the Varginha UFO witnesses. A Prominent Brazilian Neurosurgeon Who Was Face To Face With a Live Alien Being for 4 Minutes, and Whose Team Did Surgery On It, Speaks To Western Media In A Long Form Interview For The First Time. A Pilot and UFO Crash Witness Who Held The Crash Material In His Hands Also Goes On Record. Finally, The Doctor Who Did The Autopsy On The Soldier Who Apprehended The Alien Being And Died From A Never-Before-Seen Infection From It Speaks Out. Sign Up With Our Sponsors Below For Exclusive Alchemy Deals! Wild Alaskan Salmon: Get $35 off your first box of wild-caught, sustainable seafood—delivered right to your door. Go to: https://www.wildalaskan.com/JESSE. AG1: Go to https://www.DRINKAG1.com/ALCHEMY to get their best offer… get 3 FREE AG1 Travel Packs and 3 FREE AGZ Travel Packs, plus FREE Vitamin D3+K2 and AG1 Welcome Kit with your first AG1 subscription order! Chubbies: Chubbies is here to keep you comfy and looking good year-round. Get 20% off with code JESSE at https://chubbiesshorts.com/jesse #chubbiespod The Perfect Jean: F*%k your khakis and get The Perfect Jean 15% off with the code JESSE15 at https://theperfectjean.nyc/JESSE15 #theperfectjeanpod -------------------------- Support Our Other Projects Below! Grab Your American Alchemy Merch Here ➤ https://www.americanalchemymerch.com/ Join The American Alchemy Magazine Here ➤ https://americanalchemymagazine.substack.com/ Subscribe To Our Clips Channel (10 Minute Highlights!) ➤ https://www.youtube.com/@UC8ZKTXN9trt5dhixz6b6l6w -------------------------- JOIN OUR WHOP (Early Drops/Ad Free) ➤ https://whop.com/jessemichels Discord ➤https://discord.gg/crHc44m3kF Instagram ➤ https://www.instagram.com/jessemichelsofficial TikTok ➤ https://www.tiktok.com/@itsjessemichels X ➤ https://twitter.com/AlchemyAmerican Spotify ➤ https://tinyurl.com/jessemichelsspotify Clips Channel ➤ https://www.youtube.com/@JesseMichelsClips Apply For Jobs ➤ apply@jessemichelsmedia.com Sponsor Inquiries ➤ sponsor@jessemichelsmedia.com Media Inquiries ➤ mike@jessemichelsmedia.com Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 04:53 Carlos de Sousa 9:54 The Crash and Its Aftermath 15:45 Encounters with Military Personnel 19:18 The Varginha Case Unfolds 25:54 Witnesses and Their Accounts 31:11 Investigating the Crash Site 34:09 The Emotional Toll 38:07 Men in Black 48:09 Public Scrutiny 1:00:16 Extraterrestrial Existence 1:07:52 Future Investigations 1:14:01 Hypnotic Regression 1:18:59 The Impact of UFO Encounters 1:23:01 Questions of Credibility 1:36:04 The Alien Encounter 1:36:37 Mental Connection and Hypnosis 2:09:36 Video Of Alien Being 2:21:36 The Intent of the Being 2:34:06 Emergency Surgery 2:45:24 Investigative Pursuits 3:02:10 The Aftermath 3:05:21 The Autopsy 3:23:54 Bacteria Speculations 3:37:42 Further Investigation 3:40:22 The Call for Action Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our American Alchemist this week is UAP Gerb. Sign Up With Our Sponsors Below For Exclusive Alchemy Deals! Take your personal data back with Incogni! Use code AMERICANALCHEMY at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/americanalchemy 🚨 IT’S PROBABLY NOTHING - 2026 Live Tour! 🚨I’m so excited to announce that Chris Ramsay (Area52) and myself are going on a North American Tour! To access the tickets go to: https://www.itsprobablynothing.com -------------------------- Support Our Other Projects Below! Join The American Alchemy Magazine Here ➤ https://americanalchemymagazine.substack.com/ Grab Your American Alchemy Merch Here ➤ https://www.americanalchemymerch.com/ Subscribe To Our Clips Channel (10 Minute Highlights!) ➤ https://www.youtube.com/@UC8ZKTXN9trt5dhixz6b6l6w -------------------------- JOIN OUR WHOP (Early Drops/Ad Free) ➤ https://whop.com/jessemichels Patreon (Early Drops/Ad Free) ➤ https://www.patreon.com/c/JesseMichels Discord ➤https://discord.gg/crHc44m3kF Instagram ➤ https://www.instagram.com/jessemichelsofficial TikTok ➤ https://www.tiktok.com/@itsjessemichels X ➤ https://twitter.com/AlchemyAmerican Spotify ➤ https://tinyurl.com/jessemichelsspotify Clips Channel ➤ https://www.youtube.com/@JesseMichelsClips Apply For Jobs ➤ apply@jessemichelsmedia.com Sponsor Inquiries ➤ sponsor@jessemichelsmedia.com Media Inquiries ➤ mike@jessemichelsmedia.com Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 04:32 Meet UAP Gerb 06:00 Legacy Programs 12:03 The Pyramid of Contractors 16:46 Whistleblowers and Leaks 23:50 Modern Majestic 12 27:10 Exploring the IPU Docs 31:08 A Naval Perspective 32:24 The Administrators of Secrecy 37:38 Individuals in the Shadows 41:27 A Call to Action 43:04 The Office of Global Access 49:48 The Conflict of Interest 51:28 The Role of MITRE 1:03:02 Testimony from the Inside 1:09:22 The Alien Reproduction Vehicle 1:15:47 Jonathan Wagan's Story 1:18:43 Evidence and Obfuscation 1:19:53 Crash Retrieval Teams 1:22:01 The DOE NEST 1:24:58 Agencies and Contractors 1:28:08 The Roswell Incident 1:30:25 The 1954 Atomic Energy Agreement 1:31:35 J. Andrew Kistner's Testimony 1:31:55 The GAO Audit 1:32:56 The Y-12 Complex 1:33:37 Whistleblower Testimonies 1:44:25 Underground Military Bases 1:52:44 Covert Operations and Facilities 1:56:47 UFO Crash Statistics 2:04:48 Marconi’s Involvement 2:07:16 The Legacy of Eric Henry Wang 2:12:32 Interconnected Cases and Research 2:14:36 The Role of Disclosure 2:26:34 The Nature of Reality 2:28:42 Controlled Disclosure Dynamics 2:35:01 Global Superpower and Disclosure 2:38:42 The Shadow Government 2:39:28 Locations of Alien Bodies 2:40:54 Whistleblower Insights 2:43:52 Credibility of Testimonies 2:45:12 Skepticism in the UFO Community 2:47:17 The Future of Disclosure 2:49:17 Legacy Programs and Control 2:51:34 The Role of Psyops 2:54:16 The Intersection of Science and UFOs 2:56:22 Personal Aspirations for Disclosure 2:59:35 The Challenge of Truth in UFO Research 3:02:06 The Need for Public Accountability 3:04:20 Navigating the UFO Narrative 3:07:13 The Importance of Human Experience 3:10:08 Closing Remarks on UFO Discourse 3:12:41 American Alchemy Merch Launch Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our American Alchemist this week is James Fox. Investigator James Fox just surfaced the most intensely-detailed account yet of the Varginha UFO case, an event involving a crashed craft, multiple non-human three fingered and toed beings, military intervention (from Brazil and The United States), and firsthand medical witnesses who did surgery on an alien in a hospital in Varginha, Brazil. For the first time in the case’s history, James Fox gets a testimony from the head neurosurgeon of the hospital that did surgery on the being. He also interviews the examiner of the soldier that died from apprehending the being. Chris Ramsay will be doing a deep dive on this autopsy on Area52 in a couple of weeks. Sign Up With Our Sponsors Below For Exclusive Alchemy Deals! Shopify: Start your business for just $1/month at https://shopify.com/jesse. Sponsored by Shopify, the commerce platform behind millions of businesses and 10% of all U.S. e-commerce. -------------------------- Support Our Other Projects Below! Join The American Alchemy Magazine Here ➤ https://americanalchemymagazine.substack.com/ Grab Your American Alchemy Merch Here ➤ https://www.americanalchemymerch.com/ -------------------------- JOIN OUR WHOP (Early Drops/Ad Free) ➤ https://whop.com/jessemichels Patreon (Early Drops/Ad Free) ➤ https://www.patreon.com/c/JesseMichels Discord ➤https://discord.gg/crHc44m3kF Instagram ➤ https://www.instagram.com/jessemichelsofficial TikTok ➤ https://www.tiktok.com/@itsjessemichels X ➤ https://twitter.com/AlchemyAmerican Spotify ➤ https://tinyurl.com/jessemichelsspotify Clips Channel ➤ https://www.youtube.com/@JesseMichelsClips Apply For Jobs ➤ apply@jessemichelsmedia.com Sponsor Inquiries ➤ sponsor@jessemichelsmedia.com Media Inquiries ➤ mike@jessemichelsmedia.com Timestamps: 00:16 Introduction 01:05 The 1996 Incident 08:41 The Crash Site 41:33 Encountering the Being 46:49 The Neurosurgeon's Testimony 53:54 Communication Through the Eyes 1:05:51 Military Whistleblowers and Witnesses 1:08:27 The Smugness of National Security 1:12:09 The Day of the Event 1:15:15 Witnesses and Testimonies 1:19:35 Investigating the Air Traffic Controller 1:23:48 UFOs and National Security 1:28:25 The Complexity of Disclosure 1:42:18 Meeting Philip J. Corso 1:58:34 Walking Among Us 2:09:16 The Importance of Truth 2:12:29 Edgar Mitchell's Revelations 2:13:05 The Wilson Davis Memo 2:18:03 Insights from Apollo Astronauts 2:19:36 The Complexity of the Moon Landing 2:30:45 Calls for Transparency 2:38:49 The Nature of Disclosure 2:58:42 Collaborating for Understanding 3:04:43 Upcoming Revelations in UFO Research Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices