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Tesla Roadster unveiling lifts tokenized TSLA. Elon Musk unveiled a flying version of the Tesla Roadster, and with U.S. stock markets closed, traders piled into Hyperliquid's TSLA perpetual, sending hourly volume up roughly 1,580%. It's a sign of how round-the-clock crypto markets are becoming the first place investors react to news about traditional companies. CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily." - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - Digital asset vaults are growing rapidly, but understanding the risks behind them requires more than on-chain data. S&P Global Ratings' Vault Risk Assessment (VRA) delivers independent, forward-looking insight into vault credit quality, governance, and risk management, helping bring institutional-grade risk transparency to digital asset markets. Learn more at https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/products/vault-risk-assessments. - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

RealFi Chief Business Officer Seny Orlov joins CoinDesk’s Jennifer Sanasie to break down the protocol’s Cardano mainnet launch, which followed a public testnet with more than 3,000 verified wallets. He explains how staked USDr earns yield from real-world assets and why that portfolio is producing an annualized yield of over 12% right now. Orlov also covers why family offices and trading firms want a dollar that’s both durable and usable in DeFi, describes integrations with SundaeSwap and Strike Finance, and outlines the Ethereum mainnet launch planned for next month. - Timecodes: 00:00 - RealFi’s Seny Orlov Joins CoinDesk 01:04 - Inside RealFi’s Cardano Mainnet Launch 02:40 - How USDr and sUSDr Work 04:06 - Where the 12% Yield Comes From 05:43 - Why Institutions Want Yield-Bearing Stablecoins 07:35 - Building Out RealFi’s Cardano DeFi Ecosystem 09:11 - What the Ethereum Mainnet Launch Unlocks 11:08 - What Will Drive Institutions to DeFi - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Join the mainnet now at app.realfi.co.

Larry Finks warns the data center halt would lead to a recession. BlackRock CEO Larry Fink says halting the U.S. data center buildout would tip the economy into recession, pointing to the trillions in AI capital spending now driving growth. He also flagged a national debt that has climbed from $8 trillion in 2000 to $40 trillion today. CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily." - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - Digital markets move fast. Move forward with clarity from S&P Global Ratings’ risk analysis spanning stablecoins, tokenized funds, digital bonds, DeFi protocols, and more. Explore digital asset solutions with S&P Global Ratings at https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/products/solutions/digital-assets?utm_campaign=Global-DA-Vaults&utm_source=digital-ads&utm_medium=link&utm_content=CoinDesk1 - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

On this episode of CoinDesk’s Public Keys from the New York Stock Exchange, Jennifer Sanasie is joined by Nick Ducoff, General Manager of Institutional at the Solana Foundation, to unpack Samsung’s move to bring USDC stablecoin transfers to 82 million Galaxy devices in the US. Nuva Labs CEO Anthony Moro breaks down HOME, a new token that gives non-US investors a 7% target yield backed by tokenized US home equity loans originated by Figure, and how on-chain, loan-level data reinvents asset-backed finance. Plus, David Duong, former head of research at Coinbase, reads the macro picture after a hot CPI print, and why Ethereum could take the lead again. - Learn more at bullish.com. - Register for Consensus Hong Kong 2027 (February 1-3) and Consensus Miami 2027 (May 4-6) at https://events.coindesk.com/. - Learn more about CoinDesk Data & Indices at https://indices.coindesk.com/institutions. - Chapters/Timecodes: 00:00 Welcome to Public Keys 00:41 Samsung Puts Stablecoins on 82M Galaxy Devices 01:08 Solana's Nick Ducoff Joins 01:52 Inside the Samsung Wallet Experience 04:17 Stablecoin Supply Tops $15B on Solana 05:01 When Will AI Agents Out-Use Humans? 06:21 Stablecoins and the Token Super Cycle 08:12 Breakpoint Heads to London in November 10:09 Nuva's HOME Token: 7% Yield on US Home Equity 10:32 Anthony Moro on Tokenizing Home Loans 12:05 Why HOME Is Non-US Only for Now 13:52 Stress-Testing the Housing Exposure 15:21 On-Chain Transparency and Data Privacy 18:11 David Duong on Macro and the Hot CPI Print 20:01 Bitcoin's Levels to Watch into Year-End 21:12 The Bull Case and the Midterm Elections 23:10 Will AI IPOs Pull Capital From Crypto? 24:17 Ethereum's Comeback Story 25:59 Crypto Fear & Greed Index at 62

CoinDesk’s The Policy Protocol hosts Rebecca Rettig and Renato Mariotti open on the week’s biggest stories: the CFTC’s new advance notice of proposed rulemaking (ANPR) to regulate spot crypto exchanges without Congress, and Justin Drake’s “bunker mode” warning about AI breaking wallet cryptography. Then they sit down with Jonathan Jachym, Chief Policy Officer at Payward, who explains how Payward’s regulatory stack is being used to bring Hyperliquid to the US and to partner with banks like Wells Fargo. Jachym argues the CFTC’s ANPR is a critical first step to close a federal regulatory gap that leaves the US one of the few G20 nations without basic market-structure rules. Plus, Rebecca and Renato name Solana, and the Samsung-USDC partnership bringing stablecoins to 82 million Galaxy users, as their Person of the Week. - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - Digital markets move fast. Move forward with clarity from S&P Global Ratings' risk analysis spanning stablecoins, tokenized funds, digital bonds, DeFi protocols, and more. Explore digital asset solutions with S&P Global Ratings at https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/products/solutions/digital-assets?utm_campaign=Global-DA-Vaults&utm_source=digital-ads&utm_medium=link&utm_content=CoinDesk1. - Chapters/Timecodes: 00:00 Welcome to The Policy Protocol 02:10 The CFTC Moves to Regulate Spot Crypto 03:56 The ANPR Rollout 06:20 CFTC Resourcing and the Kalshi–NFL Fight 07:26 'Bunker Mode' and AI vs. Crypto 09:38 Jonathan Jachym of Payward Joins 10:08 Bringing Hyperliquid to the US 13:35 Bitnomial, 2C2D, and the CFTC's New Model 16:46 'Not a Partisan Issue': Filling the US Gap 19:14 Partnering With the Banks: Wells Fargo and Beyond 21:04 Will the Progress Last Under a New Commission? 24:39 Person of the Week: Solana & the Samsung Wallet Partnership

Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince sits down with CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie to explain why the internet as we know it is about to be rewritten. Prince reveals that AI agent traffic has already overtaken human traffic online, more than a year ahead of his own forecast, and he predicts it will be 1,000 times larger within five years. He breaks down why agents don't click on ads, why Cloudflare needs a payments system that can handle more than 100 times Visa's volume, and why today's blockchains are "three orders of magnitude" too slow to power it. He also explains why AI agents could actually bring privacy back to the internet. - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - Digital markets move fast. Move forward with clarity from S&P Global Ratings’ risk analysis spanning stablecoins, tokenized funds, digital bonds, DeFi protocols, and more. Explore digital asset solutions with S&P Global Ratings at https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/products/solutions/digital-assets?utm_campaign=Global-DA-Vaults&utm_source=digital-ads&utm_medium=link&utm_content=CoinDesk1 - Timecodes: 00:00 - Cloudflare's Matthew Prince Joins CoinDesk Spotlight 01:48 - Why Agents Don't Click on Ads 03:02 - Bot Traffic Passed Human Traffic Way Ahead of Schedule 04:14 - From COVID to ChatGPT, and Why the Web Is Growing Again 06:43 - What Happens When the Users Are All Machines? 08:24 - The Internet's Tragedy of the Commons 10:47 - Building a Payments Network Bigger Than Visa 11:36 - Will AI Agents Only Read the Cheapest Information? 12:54 - The $1,200 AI Budget and the Developing World 15:07 - Is AI Heading for a Black Mirror Future? 16:46 - Can Small Businesses Survive an Agentic Internet? 20:00 - Decentralization Alone Can't Save the Internet 22:45 - The World Is “Overly Paranoid” About AI 24:37 - Why Cybersecurity Gets Scarier Before It Gets Better 26:19 - Sci-Fi, Star Trek, and the Helpful Robot 28:18 - Will AI Agents Pay in Stablecoins? 30:24 - Why Cloudflare Won't Pick Crypto Winners 32:09 - How Agents Could Bring Privacy Back 35:04 - From an Attention Economy to a Knowledge Economy - This episode is hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.

One year after Grayscale unlocked Ethereum staking inside an ETF for the first time, Head of Index Steve Vanourny breaks down what they've learned and why the results speak for themselves. Steve makes the case that unstaked ETH ETF investors are leaving money on the table and looks ahead at where Grayscale is taking its product roadmap next, from income strategies to the convergence of crypto and AI compute. - Timecodes: 0:00 - Intro: Leaving Money on the Table 0:20 - One-Year Anniversary of ETH Staking in ETFs 0:48 - Lessons Learned: Staking Matters 1:21 - The Economics of Staking 2:49 - Why Grayscale Over Competitors 4:15 - Ethereum Ecosystem Outlook 5:11 - Educating Investors on Staking Risks 6:54 - ETF Roadmap: Income & AI Convergence 8:30 - Key Takeaway: Do Your Homework - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com.

OKXICE files for 24/7 tokenized U.S. stock trading. OKXICE, a joint venture between OKX and NYSE parent ICE, has told the SEC it plans to launch a tokenized stock trading venue starting with more than 60 U.S.-listed companies. Former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, the venture's co-chair, says it's just the first step. CoinDesk's Uyen Truong hosts "CoinDesk Daily." - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - Digital markets move fast. Move forward with clarity from S&P Global Ratings’ risk analysis spanning stablecoins, tokenized funds, digital bonds, DeFi protocols, and more. Explore digital asset solutions with S&P Global Ratings at https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/products/solutions/digital-assets?utm_campaign=Global-DA-Vaults&utm_source=digital-ads&utm_medium=link&utm_content=CoinDesk1 - This episode was hosted by Uyen Truong. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

Chronicle Founder Nik Kunkel joins CoinDesk's Kate Irwin on Markets Outlook to unpack their new report that found over $12 billion in tokenized assets falling short on transparency. Kunkel breaks down the five pillars every tokenized asset needs to meet, why roughly 70% of the assets reviewed don't clear the bar, and what real-time, verifiable proof-of-asset data means for institutions like BlackRock, BNY Mellon and Galaxy racing to bring trillions onchain. - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - Digital markets move fast. Move forward with clarity from S&P Global Ratings’ risk analysis spanning stablecoins, tokenized funds, digital bonds, DeFi protocols, and more. Explore digital asset solutions with S&P Global Ratings at https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/products/solutions/digital-assets?utm_campaign=Global-DA-Vaults&utm_source=digital-ads&utm_medium=link&utm_content=CoinDesk1. - Timecodes: 00:00 - Niklas Kunkel Joins Markets Outlook 02:21 - Chronicle's New Report: Tokenization's Hidden Problem 03:50 - $12.3B Exposed: 70% of Tokenized Assets Fail the Test 06:12 - The Five Pillars Every Tokenized Asset Needs 08:18 - How to Achieve Proof of Asset 10:47 - Why Risk Isn't Priced In 12:57 - BlackRock, BNY Mellon and the Road to Real-Time Regulation

Robinhood's AI agents that trade for you. Robinhood unveiled AI agents that can research markets, build strategies, and place trades on a customer's behalf at any hour, alongside crypto perpetual futures with up to 10x leverage. CoinDesk's Uyen Truong hosts "CoinDesk Daily." - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Find out more at⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ realfi.co⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - This episode was hosted by Uyen Truong . “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

On this episode of CoinDesk's Public Keys from the New York Stock Exchange, host Jennifer Sanasie is joined by Lynq CEO Jerald David to break the news that Goldman Sachs' FTIXX treasury fund, which manages roughly $100 billion in assets, is now available on the Lynq network. And, Twenty One Capital CEO Raphael Zagury discusses his plan to build a Bitcoin operating company around one of the largest Bitcoin treasuries in public markets. Plus, Bastion co-founder and CEO Nassim Eddequiouaq explains what the company's new conditional national trust bank charter from the OCC means for its full stablecoin stack of custody, issuance, and payments, and unpacks Bastion's partnership with Sony Bank. - Learn more at bullish.com. - To get market-moving news delivered daily, download CoinDesk's mobile app: linktr.ee/coindeskapp. - Chapters/Timecodes: 00:00 Welcome to Public Keys 00:26 Goldman Sachs' $100B Treasury Fund Comes to Lynq 00:49 Lynq CEO Jerald David Joins 01:23 Why FTIXX Isn't a Tokenized Fund 02:29 Inside the Goldman Sachs Deal 03:34 The Firms Behind Lynq: B2C2, Wintermute, Galaxy, FalconX 05:02 Building for TradFi After Regulatory Clarity 06:10 Why Lynq Chose Avalanche 07:01 The Case for Programmable Privacy 09:01 XXI's New CEO Raphael Zagury Joins 09:38 The Five Pillars and 43,500 Bitcoin 10:53 M&A and the Berkshire Hathaway Model 13:07 Lending Against Bitcoin 14:05 How Zagury Found Bitcoin in 2015 16:33 Where Institutions Stand on Bitcoin Adoption 19:12 Bastion Wins Conditional OCC Trust Bank Charter 19:38 Bastion CEO Nassim Eddequiouaq Joins 20:35 Fintech vs. Federally Regulated Bank 23:53 Inside the Sony Bank Partnership 25:11 Staying Competitive After the Genius Act 26:41 Do We Need All These Stablecoins?

BTC ETFs are back in the green. U.S. spot bitcoin ETFs are now up nearly $800 million in net inflows for the year, a full reversal from a $5.8 billion deficit in July. The funds have logged six straight days of inflows as bitcoin climbed back to $85,000. CoinDesk's Uyen Truong hosts "CoinDesk Daily." - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Find out more at⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ realfi.co⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - This episode was hosted by Uyen Truong . “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

Transform Ventures CEO and author of "Bitcoin Supercycle” Michael Terpin joins CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie on Markets Outlook to explain why he believes the bear market is over and "Bitcoin winter," the long climb back to the top, has officially begun. Terpin lays out his path to $120K by late next year, why 2028-29 could bring a rare collision of presidential and stock market cycles, when he sees million-dollar bitcoin, and why he believes an altcoin supercycle is coming too. Plus, GSR’s Managing Director of Asset Management Andy Baehr on why fixed income, not equities, will be the real catalyst that takes tokenization mainstream. - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Join the Testnet now at realfi.co. - Timecodes: 00:00 - Michael Terpin Joins Markets Outlook 01:02 - Bitcoin Winter Is Here: Why the Bull Market Has Begun 02:40 - The Four Seasons of Bitcoin, Explained 04:45 - The Path to $120K Bitcoin 06:02 - Does the AI Trade Make This Cycle Different? 07:34 - When Bitcoin Breaks From Risk Assets 08:52 - The 2028-29 Cycle Collision 10:39 - Why Million-Dollar Bitcoin Needs a Supercycle 12:58 - Brand New Rails: Why Fixed Income Beats Equities for Tokenization 16:12 - Million-Dollar Bitcoin by 2037? 17:45 - 95% Mined: The Coming Supply Shock 18:38 - 28M Millionaires, 21M Bitcoin: What the Market Is Missing 19:44 - What Happens When the Last Bitcoin Is Mined? 20:52 - The Coming Altcoin Supercycle 22:53 - Memecoins Meet Tokenized Stocks