Eye On A.I.

Genpact surveyed 500 senior executives to understand why companies are investing in AI but not seeing the value, and what they found was both clarifying and uncomfortable. Sanjeev Vohra, Genpact's Chief Technology and Innovation Officer, joins Craig Smith to share the results: only 12% of companies qualify as genuine AI leaders, meaning they're deploying AI in production environments, generating measurable business outcomes, and have the governance systems in place to actually assess that value. The other 88% are somewhere between experimenting and stalled, and the most common culprit isn't the technology or the C-suite. It's what Vohra and his clients call the "frozen middle", the operationally stretched middle managers who are too busy to lead the transformation and too central to the business to be bypassed. The conversation covers the full landscape of what separates leaders from the rest: why co-pilots are a stepping stone that most companies are mistaking for the destination; why 99% of enterprises have no real AI governance program even as agents begin to proliferate; how Genpact's own CEO writing code on a Friday afternoon became the most powerful AI adoption signal in the company; and why Vohra's sharpest piece of advice is also the simplest, progress over perfection, because the companies still waiting for a complete roadmap before they start have already fallen behind. His formula for what's coming: engineers who are 10 times more productive, business professionals who are 3 times more capable, and organizations that treat that as a baseline expectation, not a stretch goal. Subscribe to Eye on A.I. for weekly conversations with the people building and deploying the future of AI.

One company now has more AI agents deployed in its organization than it has human employees. Slack's CMO Ryan Gavin dropped that stat into a conversation with Craig Smith, and then immediately identified the secondary problem it creates: when your digital workforce outnumbers your human one, how do employees know which agent to call for which task? That orchestration problem, and the conversational interface that solves it, is what this episode is really about. Gavin describes Slack bot's transformation from a notification tool into what he calls the ChatGPT moment for the enterprise, an AI that doesn't just understand the internet, but understands your business, your team, your customers, and your company's entire conversational history, all the way back to day one. The conversation covers the full arc of what this shift means in practice: a Salesforce executive walking into an unfamiliar meeting and being praised for their questions, because Slack bot had prepared them in minutes using the team's full history; a marketer who built his own data scientist agent over a weekend and is now completely unshackled from the bottleneck that was slowing him down; and Gavin's most honest admission, that he's been saying for years that AI won't replace jobs, but this is the first time he actually believes it, because the soul-crushing "work of work" is finally shrinking, and what's left is the kind of creative, high-energy output that people actually want to do. The inbox, he says, is a deathtrap in the AI era. The companies that figure out how to move beyond it will outperform their competitors by multiples. Subscribe to Eye on A.I. for weekly conversations with the people building and deploying the future of AI.

AI agents can now connect to every tool your employees use. The problem is that connecting them and trusting them are two completely different things, and most enterprises have figured out the first without solving the second. Oren Michaels, co-founder and CEO of Barndoor AI, joins Craig Smith to explain why that gap is the defining challenge of the agentic enterprise era. His framework is simple and sharp: agents are like enthusiastic interns. They will absolutely do something when you ask them to. Whether it's what you intended is another matter, and when an agent can act across Salesforce, Slack, email, and calendar simultaneously, the blast radius of a misunderstood instruction is far larger than anything a human intern could cause. The conversation covers the 100,000 agent problem - the reality that each agent handling a discrete task needs its own set of rules about what it's allowed to do, and that number scales to a size no human team can govern manually - and why traditional identity management systems were never built for the failure modes AI agents create. The new threat isn't bad actors getting in; it's authorized people using allowed tools with agents that still do the wrong thing. Barn Door's governance layer sits between the agent and the tools it can access, specifying exactly what each agent is permitted to do in each context, and Venn brings that same capability to individuals who want to understand what's possible before their organizations catch up. This is one of the most practically useful conversations available about what enterprise AI governance actually looks like. Subscribe to Eye on A.I. for weekly conversations with the people building and deploying the future of AI.

Most AI systems follow a gradient, a mathematical slope that tells them exactly how to improve, step by step, toward a known goal. Neuroevolution doesn't follow any gradient. Instead, it runs hundreds or thousands of competing solutions simultaneously, spreads them across the space of possibilities as broadly as possible, and lets the best ones recombine, the same logic that drives biological evolution. The result, as Risto Miikkulainen explains to Craig Smith, is creativity: solutions that no human designer would have anticipated, that emerge routinely from the evolutionary process. Miikkulainen is a professor at UT Austin and VP of AI Research at Cognizant AI Labs, and he has been working on this field since the 1980s, which makes him both a historian of it and one of its most active frontiersmen. The conversation covers a remarkable range: a mystery model that outperformed every competitor in a recent stock trading competition with forensic footprints pointing to neuroevolutionary AI; Sakana AI's system that autonomously designed experiments, wrote a paper, and had it accepted at a major machine learning conference; and a pandemic decision system that trained overnight and made country-specific recommendations by morning, with Iceland actually following some of them, all the way to the prime minister. Subscribe to Eye on A.I. for weekly conversations with the people building and deploying the future of AI.

Luiz Domingos has spent 25 years watching enterprise communications evolve, from IP telephony to cloud to AI, and his assessment of where things stand now is unusually concrete. Companies have moved past the strategy deck phase. AI is being embedded directly into contact centers, compliance workflows, and communication pipelines, and the question executives are asking has shifted from "which model is smartest" to "which deployment reduces friction and stays compliant." Domingos is direct about what gets in the way: you cannot pour AI into a legacy architecture and expect transformation, and cloud-only AI doesn't solve the latency or data sovereignty problems that regulated industries face every day. In this conversation with Craig Smith, Domingos covers the practical mechanics of how Mitel is applying AI across its portfolio, from real-time transcription and sentiment analytics in contact centers, to agentic workflows that turn conversations into automated tickets and follow-ups. He draws a clear line between AI agents (which give recommendations) and agentic AI (which takes actions), a distinction the market consistently confuses. He also makes a prediction worth noting: within five years, voice will replace the traditional app interface as the primary way people interact with enterprise AI systems. For any CIO or CTO trying to move from experimentation to real ROI, his framework - start with workflow friction, not pilots - is the most actionable takeaway in the episode.

Your child's data profile doesn't start when they get their first phone. It starts before they're born, the moment a parent emails a gynecologist or visits a fertility clinic website. That's the core argument behind Born Private, Proton's new initiative that lets parents reserve an email address for their child at birth, anchoring their digital identity in a privacy-preserving ecosystem before the profiling machine gets started. Craig Smith sits down with Eamonn Maguire, Engineering Director, Machine Learning & AI at Proton, who has spent his career at the intersection of data, security, and visualization to explore what's really happening to our data and what, if anything, we can do about it. The conversation covers the mechanics of how just three email sign-ups can allow Google to infer your age, politics, and religion; why OpenAI and Anthropic have shown "not much regard for the law" when it comes to training data and copyright; and why social media platforms are operating like unregulated gambling companies - engineering addiction with no structural incentive to stop. It's one of the most grounded, specific, and genuinely alarming conversations about digital privacy you'll hear, and it ends with a simple, actionable proposition: privacy should be a decision you make at birth, not a problem you try to solve after the damage is done. Subscribe to Eye on A.I. for weekly conversations with the people building and deploying the future of AI.

Errol Gardner has spent 35 years advising the world's largest organizations through major technology transitions, and his assessment of where enterprise agentic AI actually stands is one of the most grounded you'll hear anywhere. His number: less than 1 out of 10 on a maturity scale. Not because the technology isn't ready, but because deploying agentic AI across an organization doesn't tweak how it works, it requires rebuilding how it works. And that is a fundamentally different kind of challenge than anything the AI hype cycle is currently acknowledging. In this conversation with Craig Smith, Gardner walks through why cloud adoption still hasn't reached 7 out of 10, what that means for agentic AI timelines, why the single biggest barrier to adoption is human resistance rather than technical limitation, and why governments will ultimately have to step in to manage workforce displacement at scale. He also raises a question that almost nobody is asking: is the value exchange between the technology sector and traditional industries sustainable in the long run? It's a conversation that doesn't just describe where AI is, it explains why the gap between the narrative and the reality has never been wider. Subscribe to Eye on A.I. for weekly conversations with the people building and deploying the future of AI.

Kris Lovejoy, Global Strategy Leader at Kyndryl, has spent her career at the intersection of IT infrastructure and security. Right now, she's one of the people enterprises call when they want to move from AI experimentation to real deployment. Her diagnosis is clear: agentic AI is a bullet train sitting on tracks built for 30 miles per hour. The technology is ready. Most organizations aren't, and the gap between a successful pilot and a production system running at scale is far wider than the hype suggests. In this conversation with Craig Smith, Lovejoy walks through why IT service management is the smartest entry point for agentic adoption, how cost savings of up to 90% in that area can fund broader modernization, and why the security risks in agentic systems are less about sophisticated hackers and more about misconfiguration, bad context, and human error. She closes with a specific prediction: half of traditional IT administration tasks will be handled by AI agents by 2031, and a surprising take on who will actually thrive in the agentic era: not coders, but people trained to ask the right questions. For anyone making decisions about AI adoption, this is the most practical conversation available right now. Subscribe to Eye on A.I. for weekly conversations with the people building and deploying the future of AI.

What if the most competitive exam in the world is also the most destructive? In this episode of Eye on AI, Craig Smith sits down with Professor Andrew Thangaraj, faculty at the Department of Electrical Engineering at IIT Madras, to explore how one of India's most prestigious institutions is quietly dismantling the system it helped build. Andrew lays out the honest reality of higher education in India. Two and a half crore kids reach college age every year. Only 90 lakh make it to college. And the IITs, the most coveted institutions in the country, take just 17,000. The competition to reach those seats has become so extreme that students are losing their childhoods, their development is stunted, and even those who make it through are often unemployable because the system rewards knowledge over skills. Andrew walks through exactly how IIT Madras is responding. A full, IIT-branded undergraduate degree in data science delivered entirely online for under five lakhs, roughly $5,000. No JEE required. No elite school background needed. Just a 10th standard foundation and the willingness to do the work. The program flips the traditional model, putting hands-on skills and real projects before theory, building in multiple exit points for students who need to start earning before they finish, and scaling to over 40,000 active students through a hybrid of faculty-recorded lectures, full-time instructors, and a remarkably active student community. We also get into the bigger picture. Why India's AI talent gap is as much a culture problem as a numbers problem. Whether India can leapfrog into AI leadership the way China did after rebuilding its research ecosystem. Where AI tools are already being tested inside the program and where they still fall short. And how AI deployed in Indian languages, in agriculture, and in the courts could drive the kind of societal change that no corporate productivity tool ever will. Subscribe for more conversations with the people shaping the future of AI and emerging technology. Stay Updated: Craig Smith on X: https://x.com/craigss Eye on A.I. on X: https://x.com/EyeOn_AI (00:00) Introduction and Andrew Thangaraj's Background (01:29) India's Higher Education Bottleneck (03:45) Designing a $5,000 IIT Degree (09:27) Why Graduates Still Lack Skills (12:31) When the Program Started and How It Got Approved (13:56) Program Structure, Diplomas and Multiple Exit Points (17:52) Who the Program Reaches and Surprising Student Stories (24:57) Older Students, Working Professionals and International Enrollment (29:55) Can India Leapfrog in AI (34:03) Data Centers, Power and Infrastructure Gaps (40:57) How Involved Are the IITs in India's AI Mission (46:00) AI for Languages, Farms and Courts