
Hope Illuminated Podcast: Helping the Helpers Bring Light to Life’s Darkest Moments
by Dr. Sally Spencer-Thomas
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Suffering Is Disconnection: Co-Regulation, Real Conversations & Going Toward the Pain with Mitch Wallis
Aug 25, 2026
1h 03m 34s
The Invisible Sacrifice: Mental Health and Well-Being in Construction with Aaron Witt
Jul 28, 2026
42m 29s
Who Are You When You're Not Performing? Identity, Burnout & High Achievement
Jun 30, 2026
42m 32s
The Text That Saves a Life: Caring Contacts, Peer Support & Suicide Prevention
Jun 2, 2026
59m 17s
How Well-Being Multipliers Create a Mental Health Tipping Point at Work with Laura Putnam
May 5, 2026
30m 15s
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| 8/25/26 | Suffering Is Disconnection: Co-Regulation, Real Conversations & Going Toward the Pain with Mitch Wallis | In this episode of Hope Illuminated, I'm joined by Mitch Wallis for one of the most intellectually rich and personally moving conversations I've had on this podcast. Mitch arrives with a rare combination: more than two decades of lived experience managing complex mental illnesses, a master's in clinical psychology from Columbia, and an extraordinary ability to translate neuroscience into language that any human being can act on immediately. His mantra, "go toward the pain," is both a personal practice and a public health philosophy, and this conversation is a masterclass in what that looks like in real life.We open with Mitch's central thesis: mental health is, at its core, nervous system regulation. Specifically, it is the capacity for both self-regulation and co-regulation. And co-regulation, the ability to help another person's nervous system settle through genuine, attuned presence, is the most underutilized and most scalable mental health tool we have. Mitch makes the case, backed by attachment theory and neuroscience, that nothing heals in isolation. Suffering, at its root, is disconnection from self and other.We move through the landscape of what supportive connection actually requires. Mitch unpacks the five most common mistakes even the most well-meaning supporters make: being a fixer, being a thief (hijacking someone's pain with your own story), being a blind optimist (silver-lining everything), championing the life worth living to someone in suicidal intensity, and avoiding the pain entirely. For each mistake, he offers a concrete reframe rooted in attunement, sequencing, and dosing.The conversation reaches its most personal and profound point when we turn to grief. Mitch gently reflects back to me what I share about my brother Carson, offering a reframe that stopped me in my tracks: we are not just grieving the person we lost. We are grieving the parts of ourselves that only they could unlock. That the magnetism, the levity, the playfulness Carson drew out of me, that is part of what I am still mourning. It is one of the most generous and precise moments of co-regulation I have experienced in a long time, and it is all captured here. For more information on this episode go to Suffering Is Disconnection: Co-Regulation, Real Conversations & Going Toward the Pain — Dr. Sally | 1h 03m 34s | ||||||
| 7/28/26 | The Invisible Sacrifice: Mental Health and Well-Being in Construction with Aaron Witt | In this episode of Hope Illuminated, I'm joined by Aaron Witt - founder and CEO of Buildwitt, the fastest-growing media and workforce development platform dedicated to the "dirt world" of critical infrastructure, natural resources, and heavy civil construction. Aaron is a rare voice in this space: someone who has worked the job sites himself, who carries genuine reverence for the people who build the world, and who has built a multi-platform company around the conviction that this industry's future depends on its ability to see, value, and develop the human beings doing the work.Aaron opens with a framing that anchors the entire conversation: the military cannot function without the steel, runways, and infrastructure that construction workers build. First responders cannot reach emergencies without roads. Yet while we celebrate soldiers and firefighters for their sacrifice, the construction worker - equally indispensable, equally exposed to danger, loss, and physical hardship - remains largely invisible in the national conversation about worker well-being. Aaron calls this the invisible sacrifice, and his life's work is making it visible.We dig into the data: construction consistently ranks among the highest-risk industries for suicide, with rates surpassing military and law enforcement in some analyses. Overdose deaths on and around job sites are rising. And yet the support systems available to workers in the field are largely inaccessible - requiring workers on 12-hour shifts to navigate multiple barriers to reach anyone who might help, only to find that the person on the other end has no understanding of their world. Aaron is direct: many traditional EAP resources are, in his words, "completely worthless" for this population.The conversation turns to solutions, and Aaron is equally direct about where change has to start: with leaders. Not leaders giving speeches about wellness, but leaders going first - sharing their own struggles, modeling that it is possible to be strong and vulnerable simultaneously, and creating the conditions in which workers feel safe enough to do the same. Aaron connects this to the broader workforce crisis: with 8 million construction workers and a next generation that is not choosing the trades, well-being is not a soft add-on. It is a recruitment and retention strategy. It is, ultimately, a matter of national infrastructure security. For more information on this episode go to The Invisible Sacrifice: Mental Health and Well-Being in Construction — Dr. Sally | 42m 29s | ||||||
| 6/30/26 | identityburnout+3 | John Brown | Apple | OhioSilicon Valley | identityburnout+5 | — | 42m 32s | ||
| 6/2/26 | suicide preventionpeer support+3 | Brandon Wilcox | Rocky Mountain Crisis Partners | — | suicide preventioncaring contacts+5 | — | 59m 17s | ||
| 5/5/26 | mental healthworkplace culture+3 | Laura Putnam | Motion InfusionGallup | — | mental health culturewell-being multipliers+3 | — | 30m 15s | ||
| 3/30/26 | healingtrauma+3 | Julia Hassall | Hope IlluminatedHealing Trauma Beyond Words | — | brainspottingsomatic work+2 | — | 47m 19s | ||
| 3/6/26 | men's mental healthgrief+5 | Rabbi Baruch Halevi | Hope Illuminated | — | men's groupspurpose+3 | — | 33m 09s | ||
| 2/24/26 | leadershippolarization+2 | Jeff Gorter | R3 ContinuumHope Illuminated+1 | — | emotional demandtargeted violence+2 | — | 34m 22s | ||
| 1/13/26 | suicide preventiondigital clues+3 | Kim Burdett Bartlett | digital devicesBlack Box Project White Paper+5 | — | Black Box Projectsuicide warning signs+3 | — | 44m 56s | ||
| 1/6/26 | workplace suicidepostvention+3 | Dr John Gaal | After the Unthinkable | — | EAPsmental health first responders+2 | — | 33m 34s | ||
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| 12/30/25 | mental healthhealing+9 | — | Headspace for the WorkplaceHope Illuminated | — | impact metricstools developed+4 | — | 19m 06s | ||
| 12/16/25 | CTEsuicide risk+3 | Dr John Gaal | Hope Illuminated | — | Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathydepression+3 | — | 55m 16s | ||
| 11/4/25 | griefchildren+3 | Ryan Abramowitz | Elegy for an ElephantHope Illuminated+1 | — | Elegy for an Elephantwatercolor+2 | — | 46m 02s | ||
| 10/28/25 | farm mental healthrural communities+3 | Monica Kramer McConkey | Sowing Hope in Rural America: Tackling the Farm Mental Health Crisis | AmericaMinnesota | resilienceconnection+3 | — | 45m 49s | ||
| 9/30/25 | AI toolsmental health+3 | Alex Willis | AI-powered toolsNFL+2 | — | NFLdepression+2 | — | 46m 40s | ||
| 9/9/25 | Healing the Healers: Moral Injury, Privacy, and Pathways to Hope with Corey Feist | Healthcare workers give their all, but too often, the system gives little back when it comes to protecting their mental health. In this Hope Illuminated episode, I sit down with Corey Feist, Co-Founder & CEO of the Dr. Lorna Breen Heroes’ Foundation, to talk about moral injury, systemic solutions, and the strategies that actually work.Together, we unpack how confidential peer support, equal privacy protections in mental health care, and humane re-entry pathways can restore dignity and safety to those who care for us. Corey’s work has helped drive landmark federal legislation, shift national culture, and spark movements that reach over 1.5 million healthcare workers.This episode isn’t just for healthcare leaders. If you care about building psychologically safe workplaces —in medicine or beyond — you’ll walk away with actionable strategies for protecting wellbeing, reducing stigma, and honoring the humanity of workers everywhere. For more information on this episode go to https://www.sallyspencerthomas.com/hope-illuminated-podcast/153 | 1h 01m 15s | ||||||
| 7/29/25 | The Youth Suicide Prevention Breakthrough We’ve Been Waiting For: The Sources of Strength Story | In this powerful episode, Scott LoMurray, TIME100 Health honoree and CEO of Sources of Strength, shares how his organization has transformed youth suicide prevention through peer leadership, strength-based storytelling, and community-driven culture change. We unpack the evidence, the vision, and the movement that’s shifting suicide prevention from reaction to resilience. for mor einformation on this episode go to https://www.sallyspencerthomas.com/hope-illuminated-podcast/152 | 44m 50s | ||||||
| 7/8/25 | The Power of Time -- Slowing Down to Save Lives in Suicide Prevention with Gergö Hadlaczky | What if the most powerful suicide prevention tool we have… is time?In this groundbreaking episode, suicide prevention expert Dr. Gergö Hadlaczky shares insights from science, strategy, and lived experience about how creating time—even just a few minutes—can change the trajectory of a suicidal crisis.We explore the rapidity of suicidal crises, how emotional intensity and suicidal thoughts often pass with time, and why time-buying can often help people win the internal debate around living or dying.Time gives people a second chance at life and a fighting chance to survive. For mre information on this episode go to https://www.sallyspencerthomas.com/hope-illuminated-podcast/151 | 44m 21s | ||||||
| 6/24/25 | Technology of Survival -- How Emotions Like Fear, Grief, Anger, and Guilt Keep Us Alive with Russell Peterson | Why do we fear emotions, particularly in cultures where strength is defined by stoicism? What if we reframed emotions not as liabilities, but as essential survival systems?When are get stuck in our emotions like fear, grief, anger, and guilt, we’re not failing. Our emotions are over-functioning. Emotional systems have evolved "fail-safe" systems; they won’t stop to help us survive. And while that keeps us alive, it can also overwhelm us. In this powerful episode of Hope Illuminated, I sit down with Russell Peterson, a counselor, military mental health specialist, and wilderness survivalist. Russell introduces his compelling “Technology of Survival” framework, illustrating how emotions such as fear, grief, anger, and guilt have evolved to keep us alive.When emotions are seen through a survival lens, we begin to understand their purpose, reduce shame, and reclaim our humanity.For more information on this episode go to https://www.sallyspencerthomas.com/hope-illuminated-podcast/150 | 49m 27s | ||||||
| 6/10/25 | Time to Get Noisy -- What Construction Can Teach Us About Suicide Prevention in Every Industry with Sebastian Ison-Jacques | In this episode, we explore one of the most urgent yet often overlooked crises facing high-risk industries: suicide in construction. Our guest, Sebastian Ison-Jacques, brings a powerful blend of personal experience, academic research, and sector insight to this critical conversation. From digital construction to workplace mental health, Seb’s mission is to expose what’s broken and help build something better. for more information on this episode go to https://www.sallyspencerthomas.com/hope-illuminated-podcast/149 | 44m 18s | ||||||
| 5/27/25 | Uncovering Hidden Stories: Psychological Autopsies and Suicide Prevention in Middle Aged Adults with Dr. Eva De Jaegere | In this episode of Hope Illuminated, Dr. Sally Spencer-Thomas sits down with Dr. Eva De Jaegere from Belgium to explore the stories behind suicide through the lens of psychological autopsy. Together, they discuss Dr. Eva’s research on suicide risk in middle-aged adults, revealing surprising findings about the role of work stress, financial worries, and the importance of open conversations about suicide and mental health. Discover how listening to the stories of both survivors and those left behind can bring healing, challenge stigma, and shape more effective prevention strategies. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in suicide prevention, lived experience research, and the power of storytelling to spark change.Follow Dr. Sally at www.sallyspencerthomas.com | 44m 41s | ||||||
| 5/20/25 | Meeting People Where They Are: A Global Vision for Suicide Prevention with Dr. Sandersan Onie | In this inspiring episode of Hope Illuminated, Dr. Sally Spencer-Thomas sits down with Sandersan Onie, a global leader in mental health promotion and suicide prevention, for a powerful conversation about the importance of intellectual humility and meeting people where they are. Listen as Dr. Onie shares personal stories of overcoming trauma, highlights the critical role of religion and culture in suicide prevention, and reveals how he helped spark transformative policy change in Indonesia. The episode also explores using technology and empathic messaging to reach those in crisis, emphasizing community-based strategies that honor local beliefs and language. Tune in for practical insights, heartfelt storytelling, and actionable lessons for anyone passionate about mental health and saving lives.Follow Dr. Sally at www.sallyspencerthomas.com | 48m 13s | ||||||
| 5/13/25 | From Grief to Advocacy: Young Voices Changing Mental Health Conversations with Alex Bush | In this powerful episode of Hope Illuminated, Dr. Sally Spencer-Thomas sits down with Alex Bush, a resilient young advocate who began sharing her story after losing her father to suicide at 16. Together, they discuss the vital role of personal storytelling in suicide prevention, the impact of youth voices on mental health advocacy, and actionable strategies for engaging with both traditional and social media. Alex shares her journey from grief to national speaker, offering insights on making a real difference in communities and supporting others who have experienced loss. Tune in to hear inspiring advice for storytellers, mental health leaders, and anyone seeking hope and connection in challenging times.Follow Dr. Sally at www.sallyspencerthomas.com | 45m 15s | ||||||
| 4/29/25 | Surviving and Thriving: Intersection of Identity, Mental Health, and Trans Resilience with Lyseria Kursave | Join Dr. Sally Spencer-Thomas as she sits down with Lyseria Kursave, a resilient trans woman and union electrician, for an honest conversation about living authentically, navigating personal and professional challenges, and the intersection of gender identity and mental health. From overcoming isolation and workplace discrimination to the importance of community and allyship, this powerful episode of Hope Illuminated sheds light on the lived experiences and hope-filled advocacy of the trans community. Perfect for anyone seeking inspiration, education, or a deeper understanding of how solidarity and compassion make a difference in the fight for mental well-being and equality. For more information on this episode go to https://www.sallyspencerthomas.com/hope-illuminated-podcast/surviving-and-thriving-intersection-of-identity-mental-health-and-trans-resilience-with-lyseria-kursave-ep-145 | 1h 02m 31s | ||||||
| 4/22/25 | Unlocking Agency in Suicide Prevention with Dr. Selma Gaily-Luoma | In this thought-provoking episode, I sit down with Dr. Selma Gaily-Luoma to explore the transformative role of agency in suicide prevention. Agency, defined as the sense of control and capacity to influence your thoughts, behaviors, and circumstances, is a cornerstone of psychological resilience. We delve into how fostering a sense of agency can be a powerful antidote to feelings of entrapment and despair that often accompany suicidal crises.For mor information on this episode go to https://www.sallyspencerthomas.com/hope-illuminated-podcast/unlocking-agency-in-suicide-prevention-with-dr-selma-gaily-luoma-episode-144 | 58m 03s | ||||||
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