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S12 E4: The Emotional Tax of Doing HR Correctly with Stacey Nordwall
May 4, 2026
54m 28s
AI Readiness Gap (Part 1): We're Not Ready (And That's Okay) with Parijat Sarkar
Apr 29, 2026
31m 18s
S12 E3: Your Job is NOT Your Whole Personality, and We Need to Talk About It with Lauren Schneider
Apr 27, 2026
1h 03m 59s
Better Decisions: You're Data Rich And Decision Poor, And It's Showing with Doug Melton
Apr 24, 2026
33m 40s
S12 E2: Courage Over Compliance: A Conversation We Should've Had Already with Keisha Toussaint
Apr 20, 2026
52m 02s
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| 5/4/26 |  S12 E4: The Emotional Tax of Doing HR Correctly with Stacey Nordwall | HR has this fun little quirk where almost nothing is black and white, and the concept of "right" and "wrong" is rarely as simple as it sounds in a policy doc! This season, we've talking about firsts, and the moments that fundamentally change how you see this work. Today, I sat down with Stacey Norville, VP of People Strategy at Pyn and host of one of my favorite podcasts, Toot or Boot, to talk about the first time she had to step into an HRBP role before that role even existed at her company, then navigate a serious performance situation where doing everything right still didn't guarantee a good outcome. We get into the emotional toll and gray areas you have to deal with to survive this job, and the part no one puts in the job description, which is that sometimes you carry the weight of your decisions home with you! 00:03:29 - Something Stacey Had to Unlearn About Work 00:05:23 - When Stacey Had to Step into an HRBP Role Before it Even Existed 00:11:21 - Expecting the Unexpected in HR 00:19:09 - The Difficult Nature of Feedback Convos 00:25:39 - The Duality of Regulating Your Emotional Reactions During Procedural Moments 00:34:59 - The Complexity of What’s Right and What’s Wrong in HR 00:38:36 - How Past Experiences Have Shaped Stacey’s Approach to Performance Management 00:49:47 - Getting in Touch With Stacey --- The Predictive Index behavioral assessment reveals how people work, think, and thrive—so teams can understand each other better and perform at their best. Because when you truly understand your people, work just works. Learn more: trypi.com/ihateithere --- And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out I Hate It Here on YouTube for even more exclusive insider content! Follow Stacey LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceynordwall/ Toot or Boot Podcast: https://www.tootorboot.com/ Follow Hebba YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef | 54m 28s | ||||||
| 4/29/26 |  AI Readiness Gap (Part 1): We're Not Ready (And That's Okay) with Parijat Sarkar✨ | AI readinessworkplace technology+3 | Parijat Sarkar | TriNetZenefits+1 | — | AIreadiness+5 | — | 31m 18s | |
| 4/27/26 |  S12 E3: Your Job is NOT Your Whole Personality, and We Need to Talk About It with Lauren Schneider✨ | career pivotsidentity and work+4 | Lauren Schneider | Compt | Salt Lake City | careeridentity+5 | The Predictive Index | 1h 03m 59s | |
| 4/24/26 |  Better Decisions: You're Data Rich And Decision Poor, And It's Showing with Doug Melton✨ | data-driven decision makinghuman capital analytics+3 | Doug Melton | — | — | datadecision making+5 | Aon | 33m 40s | |
| 4/20/26 |  S12 E2: Courage Over Compliance: A Conversation We Should've Had Already with Keisha Toussaint✨ | HR challengesadvocacy in the workplace+3 | Keisha Toussaint | BCC'd HR | — | HRcourage+5 | The Predictive IndexCODE | 52m 02s | |
| 4/13/26 |  Newsflash: You've Been Doing Compensation Wrong This Whole Time (with Candor IQ's Haris Ikram)✨ | compensationfounder journey+3 | Haris Ikram | Candor IQ | — | compensation strategyfounder mistakes+3 | The Predictive IndexCODE | 51m 22s | |
| 3/27/26 |  Better Decisions: The Leaders Getting AI Right Are Doing Something Most Orgs Refuse to Do with Marinus van Driel✨ | AIworkforce strategy+3 | Marinus van Driel | Aon | — | AIworkforce transformation+3 | — | 38m 38s | |
| 3/16/26 |  S11 E10: Engagement Scores Don't Lie, But the Way You're Using Them Absolutely Does with Anne Maltese✨ | engagement scoresleadership+3 | Anne Maltese | Quantum Workplace | — | engagement scoresleadership teams+3 | — | 57m 14s | |
| 3/9/26 |  S11 E9: Your L&D Strategy Is Broken and No, a Workshop Won't Fix It with Hanan Sahourieh✨ | L&D strategylearning culture+3 | Hanan Sahourieh | Everybody Be Cool | — | L&Dlearning culture+5 | Quantum Workplace | 54m 32s | |
| 3/2/26 |  S11 E8: The Most Important Hire I Ever Made Ended Up Replacing Me with Morgan T. Stanley✨ | leadershipcareer growth+3 | Morgan T. Stanley | — | — | leadershipcareer+3 | Quantum Workplace | 56m 17s | |
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| 2/27/26 |  Better Decisions: We've Been Running Retirement Plans on Autopilot and It Shows with Melissa Elbert✨ | retirement planningHR strategies+3 | Melissa Elbert | Aon | — | retirement plansHR leaders+3 | — | 30m 25s | |
| 2/23/26 |  S11 E7: The Authenticity They Want vs. The You They Can't Handle with Madison Butler✨ | authenticity at workcorporate culture+3 | Madison Butler | — | — | authenticityworkplace+5 | Quantum Workplace | 54m 20s | |
| 2/16/26 |  S11 E6: Your Old Playbook Died and Nobody Told You with Various Guests | I'm doing something a little different today and revisiting Season 6 where I asked every single guest the same question: “What's one thing HR folks should rethink?” And honestly, I've been in this whole new and rethinking era lately, writing about it in the newsletter, talking about it nonstop on the pod, and it just felt like the right time to bring these answers back because, let's be real, we all need the reminder! Work is changing faster than it's ever changed before, which means the cadence of how we think about things has to change too. Sometimes I genuinely worry that the solutions I built six weeks ago don't even work for today, let alone six months ago! So consider this your dose of inspiration, hearing from some of my favorite guests on all the things we should be rethinking. Hopefully it sparks something in you, or at the very least, makes you feel less alone in the chaos. Quantum Workplace helps leaders build thriving teams that fuel business success. We give leaders at every level a clear path forward—by unlocking critical talent insights across engagement, performance, and development. With clarity and confidence, people leaders can act decisively, scale leadership quality, and strengthen connection and performance. Trusted by thousands of people-focused companies, Quantum Workplace makes it easier to keep teams aligned, empowered, growing, and valued on the path to business success. Visit quantumworkplace.com to learn more. 00:01:28 - Improving Equitable Operations in Your Org 00:04:01 - Just Be Honest About Your Culture to Candidates 00:13:35 - Embracing People’s Passions Outside of Work 00:16:42 - When Leaders Are a Common Blocker to HR 00:18:52 - Finally Holding Leaders Accountable 00:21:55 - Why HR Should be Thought of as a Creative Department 00:23:27 - Addressing Employee Turnover and Going Back to the Basics And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/ And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content! Follow DeMario: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/demario-bell-7a510994/ Follow Joel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joellalgee/ Follow Justin: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justingignac/ Follow Morgan: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/morganbwilliams/ Follow Jessica: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicadwinder/ Follow Nikki: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikkirap/ Follow Halai: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/halai-shukran/ Follow Hebba: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef | 30m 36s | ||||||
| 2/9/26 |  S11 E5: We're Rewriting Leadership Rules Because Yours Were Never Meant for Us with Amanda Litman | We're out here constantly hearing that Gen Z is "so different" and Millennials "just don't get it," but nobody ever stops to ask how or why they're different. It's not because we're lazy or entitled (though I know that's everyone's favorite narrative). It's because we looked at the leadership systems y'all built, said absolutely not, and decided to burn it all down and start over! Amanda Litman and I got into the leadership myths that are finally dying, why vulnerability isn't a weakness, how social media completely changed what leadership looks like, and why so many of us refuse to let our jobs become our entire personality. This episode is for anyone who's ever felt gaslit for having boundaries, anyone who's been told they're "too much" for expecting basic humanity in the workplace, and anyone who knows the way things have always been done is not the way things should keep being done. Quantum Workplace helps leaders build thriving teams that fuel business success. We give leaders at every level a clear path forward—by unlocking critical talent insights across engagement, performance, and development. With clarity and confidence, people leaders can act decisively, scale leadership quality, and strengthen connection and performance. Trusted by thousands of people-focused companies, Quantum Workplace makes it easier to keep teams aligned, empowered, growing, and valued on the path to business success. Visit quantumworkplace.com to learn more. 00:05:41 - One New Thing Amanda Wants to Learn This Year 00:15:07 - Why Are Leadership Myths Continue to Persist? 00:20:51 - Seeing More Representation in Entertainment Media and Exec Boards 00:26:41 - What Earned Authority Looks Like Now vs a Decade Ago 00:29:36 - Where Orgs Consistently Misread Next Gen Employees 00:36:41 - How Younger Generations Manage Power Struggles 00:42:46 - How Loyalty is Perceived Among Different Generations And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/ And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content! Follow Amanda: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandalitman/ Follow Hebba: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef | 57m 28s | ||||||
| 2/2/26 |  S11 E4: Decentering Work: What Happens When Your Job Isn't Everything with Ayanna Kelly | Why does work feel so empty right now? Like…we followed the rules and did the hustle. We even swallowed parts of ourselves to survive professionally, and yet, here we are grieving something we can’t quite name. I often say that the most interesting things about me have nothing to do with my career, and it’s nice when those things have time to shine, y’know? I sat down with Ayanna Kelly to dig into the hard stuff: why we're all grieving the workplace we thought we'd have, why monetizing our passions sometimes kills the joy, and what it actually means to decenter work from our identity when we've spent our whole lives tying our worth to our job titles. If you’re looking for new definitions of success that don't require you to sacrifice your entire nervous system, this is for you! Quantum Workplace helps leaders build thriving teams that fuel business success. We give leaders at every level a clear path forward—by unlocking critical talent insights across engagement, performance, and development. With clarity and confidence, people leaders can act decisively, scale leadership quality, and strengthen connection and performance. Trusted by thousands of people-focused companies, Quantum Workplace makes it easier to keep teams aligned, empowered, growing, and valued on the path to business success. Visit quantumworkplace.com to learn more. It’s vulnerable, but somehow still hopeful 00:01:55 - The First Time Hebba Met Ayanna 00:08:40 - Something New Ayanna Wants to Learn This Year 00:11:15 - Why Does Fulfillment at Work Feel so Hard Right Now? 00:17:06 - What We’re Grieving About Work That We Haven’t Talked About Out Loud 00:24:51 - Why Are We Expected to Monetize Our Passions? 00:38:40 - Being Your True Self at Work After Years of Emotional Suppression 00:46:55 - Why Meaningful Work Doesn’t Have to Be Central to Your Identity 00:52:49 - Ayanna’s Advice for Rethinking About Fulfillment And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/ And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content! Follow Ayanna: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ayannaskelly/ Follow Hebba: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef | 57m 34s | ||||||
| 1/26/26 |  S11 E3: R.I.P. to Traditional Careers as we Know Them with Cassandra Babilya | I’ve been thinking a lot about how aggressively we were sold the idea of career growth, and how nobody ever explained what happens when you get there and it still doesn’t feel good! This episode is a big, honest reset on what careers even mean these days, because the whole traditional career ladder thing hasn’t been the same since the early 2020’s. Cassandra Babilya and I talk about why stability is basically a myth now, why doing everything “right” doesn’t guarantee fulfillment, and why portfolio careers, flexibility, and values are replacing titles and ladders. If your definition of success is quietly changing and you’re wondering how you can define it in a way that fits the times, come listen to our chat! Quantum Workplace helps leaders build thriving teams that fuel business success. We give leaders at every level a clear path forward—by unlocking critical talent insights across engagement, performance, and development. With clarity and confidence, people leaders can act decisively, scale leadership quality, and strengthen connection and performance. Trusted by thousands of people-focused companies, Quantum Workplace makes it easier to keep teams aligned, empowered, growing, and valued on the path to business success. Visit quantumworkplace.com to learn more. 00:01:53 - Something New Cassandra Wants to Learn This Year 00:04:06 - Why Traditional Career Ladders are Kinda Broken These Days 00:09:42 - What Does a Modern Career Actually Look Like Today? 00:17:22 - What Skills Matter More Than Job Titles? 00:27:52 - Should HR be Giving Different Career Advice to Early Career People Now? 00:35:18 - Redefining Professional Success in the Modern Era 00:38:56 - Why Are We Still Pretending Career Progression is the Same? 00:42:35 - How to Approach the Idea of Reshaping Career Paths And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/ And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content! Follow Cassandra: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cassandra-babilya/ Follow Hebba: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef | 50m 22s | ||||||
| 1/19/26 |  S11 E2: Is Industry the Most Honest Show About Modern Work? with Dave Garcia | This week I’m feeling extremely pop-culture-brained because my fav show Industry is back, and if you think it’s just a show about finance…I’m here to inform you it’s actually a horror story about work. We’re talking: ambition with zero guardrails, power with zero accountability, jobs becoming entire identities way too early, and the whole nine yards. From an HR lens, it’s equal parts fascinating and deeply unsettling, but there are plenty of valuable takeaways nonetheless! I brought back my fellow Industry lover and friend, Dave Garcia, to unpack what the show gets right, what it exaggerates, and why it feels uncomfortably familiar. Quantum Workplace helps leaders build thriving teams that fuel business success. We give leaders at every level a clear path forward—by unlocking critical talent insights across engagement, performance, and development. With clarity and confidence, people leaders can act decisively, scale leadership quality, and strengthen connection and performance. Trusted by thousands of people-focused companies, Quantum Workplace makes it easier to keep teams aligned, empowered, growing, and valued on the path to business success. Visit quantumworkplace.com to learn more. 00:04:17 - How Hebba and Dave Started Watching Industry 00:05:37 - One New Thing Dave Wants to Learn This Year 00:08:17 - What Industry Says About Work, and Why We’re Talking About It 00:20:38 - How Grind Culture Reveals Socialized Dysfunction 00:31:06 - Accepting Status in Exchange for Safety 00:38:53 - How Power Affects Corporate Dynamics 00:49:32 - What Industry Gets Right About How Meritocracy Actually Works 00:59:57 - The Critiques of Hustle Culture 01:08:20 - What Industry Reveals About What Most Workplace Conversations Avoid 01:13:01 - Uncomfortable Conversations Industry Might Force You to Have And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/ And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content! Follow Dave: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nycddg/ Follow Hebba: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef | 1h 20m 39s | ||||||
| 1/12/26 |  S11 E1: HR’s Ins and Outs (and What We’re Officially Done Tolerating) with Jessica Winder | Welcome to a new season of your favorite podcast!!! It’s the new year, which means the internet is yelling about new goals, new strategies, and new tools, while HR is still over here duct-taping broken systems and being told (once again) to do more with less. So this season, I picked a very simple theme: NEW. New ideas. New rules. New levels of honesty about what’s actually working and what needs to be dragged out back and retired. We’re kicking things off with an Ins and Outs episode, which is basically the stuff HR has been whispering about in group chats. And because this topic deserved real honesty, I brought back my favorite fellow shit-talker, Jessica Winder! Quantum Workplace helps leaders build thriving teams that fuel business success. We give leaders at every level a clear path forward—by unlocking critical talent insights across engagement, performance, and development. With clarity and confidence, people leaders can act decisively, scale leadership quality, and strengthen connection and performance. Trusted by thousands of people-focused companies, Quantum Workplace makes it easier to keep teams aligned, empowered, growing, and valued on the path to business success. Visit quantumworkplace.com to learn more. 0:05:44 - Something New Jessica Wants to Learn This Year 0:12:23 - Ins and Outs, Inspired by TikTok 0:21:23 - Clarity Around Learning Skills vs Vibes-based Expectations 0:28:48 - Stop Assuming Everybody Wants to be Managers 0:35:27 - AI as a Co-pilot vs a Human Replacement 0:40:25 - Hiring Fewer, Better Defined Roles vs Overhiring 0:40:25 - Stop Pretending Pay is Not a Cultural Issue 0:56:45 - Why HR Needs a POV, Not Neutrality And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/ And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content! Follow Jessica: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicadwinder/ Follow Hebba: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef | 1h 07m 44s | ||||||
| 12/29/25 |  S10 E10: HR in 2026 - Wishes, Warnings, and Demands | Okay, we made it! WHEW. Welcome to the final episode of I Hate It Here for 2025, which feels both celebratory and mildly unhinged. This episode is me doing what I do best: yappin with people I deeply admire and respect, asking them about their wishes for HR in 2026…while also openly admitting that I’m lowkey a little scared of what’s coming next. The market is weird AF, recruiters are exhausted, candidates are frustrated, and the tools are absolutely not keeping up! But instead of spiraling alone (okay, spiraling less), I wanted to end the year by bringing some of my fav people together, because the only reason I’m still standing in this job is community, collective honesty, and the belief that if we keep talking about what’s actually happening, HR might just survive, and maybe even win. Teamtailor is the fun, intuitive ATS that candidates actually like and recruiters don’t dread opening on Monday mornings. Create branded career sites, automate the boring stuff, and give candidates the hiring experience they dream of — without burning out your team. Check them out here. 0:00:36 - Cassandra Babilya’s Wish for 2026 0:13:05 - Stacey Nordwall’s Wish for 2026 0:20:26 - Morgan Williams’s Wish for 2026 0:25:38 - Cassidy Edward’s Wish for 2026 0:32:36 - Tara Turk-Haynes’s Wish for 2026 And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/ And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content! Follow Cassandra: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cassandra-babilya/ Follow Stacey: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceynordwall/ Follow Morgan: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/morganbwilliams/ Follow Cassidy: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cassidy-edwards-yyom/ Follow Tara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ttaraturkhaynes/ Follow Hebba: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef | 44m 11s | ||||||
| 12/22/25 |  S10 E9: Toxic Workplaces are F*cking us up with Chris Hagood | Raise your hand if you’ve worked in a toxic environment before! That’s probably 99.9% of you, so today we’re talking about those negative environments that get inside your nervous system and refuse to leave quietly. The kind that turn you into a hyper-vigilant, over-prepared shell of yourself who flinches at a sporadic calendar invite titled “Quick Sync.” I brought back one of my favorite humans, close friend, returning guest, and resident shit talker Chris Hagood, because he actually understands the emotional underlayer of work, and I don’t mean just the LinkedIn version. We get into how toxic cultures shape your identity, follow you long after you leave, and what it takes to unlearn survival mode when chaos becomes your baseline. Teamtailor is the fun, intuitive ATS that candidates actually like and recruiters don’t dread opening on Monday mornings. Create branded career sites, automate the boring stuff, and give candidates the hiring experience they dream of — without burning out your team. Check them out here. 0:02:43 - How Lived Experiences Shape Your Reaction to Toxicity at Work 0:08:30 - Minimizing Toxicity Because You’re Conditioned to “Just Deal With It” 0:14:44 - Why Old Patterns Get Reactivated in Toxic Workplaces 0:17:20 - Why People Doubt Themselves More After a Toxic Job and Not During 0:20:27 - The First Step to Undoing a Toxic Environment 0:40:37 - How Toxicity Distorts Your Sense of Value, Competence, or Belonging 0:45:24 - How Tolerating Toxic Behavior Creates Long-term Damage 0:48:07 - What Habits Stick With You After Surviving a Toxic Workplace? 0:51:58 - Advice to People Currently Working in a Toxic Environment And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/ And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content! Follow Chris: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisrhagood/ Follow Hebba: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef | 1h 01m 45s | ||||||
| 12/15/25 |  S10 E8: How Grief Breaks You, Then Remakes You with George Boone | Listen, I tried so hard not to cry recording this episode. Today George Boone and I are talking about grief, the thing that HR loves to pretend can be solved with a three-day bereavement policy and a sad little “OOO.” But grief is messy and human and shows up everywhere: in how you work, lead, love, set boundaries, and literally get out of bed. George and I both carry losses that changed us forever, and instead of shoving that into the corporate void, we’re unpacking what it actually means to keep showing up while your heart is busy learning a whole new shape. It’s honest. It’s tender. And somehow…it’s also hopeful. Teamtailor is the fun, intuitive ATS that candidates actually like and recruiters don’t dread opening on Monday mornings. Create branded career sites, automate the boring stuff, and give candidates the hiring experience they dream of — without burning out your team. Check them out here. 00:04:27 - Yes, George Boone IS Related to Daniel Boone and Benson Boone 00:08:43 - The Grief That Shaped George the Most as a Person 00:16:45 - How Grief Shows up at Work 00:27:38 - How Grief Shows up in Your Style of Leadership 00:34:03 - The Loneliness That Comes With Grief 00:39:32 - Functioning at Work While You’re Experiencing Grief 00:58:02 - How Grief Makes You Softer/Sharper And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/ And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content! Follow George: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgelboone/ Follow Hebba: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef | 1h 13m 00s | ||||||
| 12/8/25 |  S10 E7: Proof Your Job Is Rewriting Your Personality in Real Time with Jessie Stettin | Workplace culture rewires us in ways that could take a whole lifetime to understand. It shapes our identity, confidence, authority issues, communication style, and even how we show up outside of work without realizing it! And Jessie Stettin and I go there: your real life shows up at work too, influencing how you lead, handle conflict, and how you interpret every “quick chat” from your boss. Who would have thought that things you did as a child still influence your work identity in such sneaky ways??? Culture is this invisible exchange constantly happening in both directions, shaping you while you’re shaping it…whether you signed up for it or not. Teamtailor is the fun, intuitive ATS that candidates actually like and recruiters don’t dread opening on Monday mornings. Create branded career sites, automate the boring stuff, and give candidates the hiring experience they dream of — without burning out your team. Check them out here. 0:05:00 - How Jessie Became an End-of-Life Doula 0:10:09 - Childhood Rules We Assumed Still Applied at Work, But Don’t 0:18:50 - Lessons About Authority and Belonging at Work 0:26:41 - Cultures That Have Shaped How Jessie Thinks About Success 0:36:47 - Being Stuck in an Environment Where You Feel Like You Don’t Belong 0:42:43 - A Point in Your Career When You Can Influence Your Culture 0:56:02 - How Jessie Would Redesign How People Socialize at Work And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/ And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content! Follow Jessie: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessiestettin/ Follow Hebba: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef | 1h 01m 32s | ||||||
| 12/1/25 |  S10 E6: How is Belonging SUPPOSED to Feel at Work? with Erica Lydell | Belonging at work is one of those things everyone claims to care about… right up until someone shows up as their full self and suddenly it’s “not professional!” I hate the idea that someone has to assimilate to belong, so Erica Lydell and I pull the curtain all the way back on masking, identity, neurodiversity, and why belonging is less warm fuzzy feeling and more daily emotional CrossFit. If you’ve ever been the only one in the room (or felt like you had to earn your seat) this episode will hit you square in the gut…in a good way! Teamtailor is the fun, intuitive ATS that candidates actually like and recruiters don’t dread opening on Monday mornings. Create branded career sites, automate the boring stuff, and give candidates the hiring experience they dream of — without burning out your team. Check them out here. 0:02:23 - Erica’s Experience Riding a Camel 0:07:02 - Learning That Belonging at Work Isn’t Automatic 0:10:02 - Having to Mute Yourself in Professional Settings 0:18:13 - The Concept of Professionalism 0:26:59 - What Does Belonging at Work Feel Like? 0:42:01 - What Leaders Need to Understand About How Identities Impact How People Show up at Work 0:49:29 - Where to Find Erica And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/ And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content! Follow Erica: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erica-lydell-b0933840/ Follow Hebba: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef | 53m 17s | ||||||
| 11/24/25 |  S10 E5: Shooting the Sh*t With My Direct Report with Madison Montgomery | Okay, friends…this episode is pure fun (okay, a little usual chaos too) in the best way, because I sat down with my actual direct report, Madison Montgomery, who confessed ON AIR that she has never listened to my podcast. And honestly? Fair. We talk generational gaps (including the infamous “generational shits” typo I will never emotionally recover from) and the magical Venn diagram that forms when an HR Millennial and a Gen Z truther try to get work done together. It’s lowkey unhinged, but I hope some of you have this much fun with your own direct reports! Teamtailor is the fun, intuitive ATS that candidates actually like and recruiters don’t dread opening on Monday mornings. Create branded career sites, automate the boring stuff, and give candidates the hiring experience they dream of — without burning out your team. Check them out here. 0:01:34 - Hebba Prepares to be Questioned 0:10:09 - Things People Ops Leaders Get Wrong Early in Their Career 0:19:13 - Inheriting Madision as a Direct Report 0:25:39 - How Hebba’s Management Style Evolved Over the Years 0:37:07 - Things Hebba Has Learned From Madison 0:47:10 - Rapid Fire Questions And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/ And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content! Follow Madison: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/madison-montgomery14/ Follow Hebba: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef | 1h 08m 22s | ||||||
| 11/17/25 |  S10 E4: I Got Coached on Air and Survived with Mary Pat Jacobs | This episode might be my most unhinged and enlightening one yet. The first half is a live coaching session where I fully spiral about my impatience and need for constant clarity (yes, I’m aware of the irony). In the second half, we go deep on how your leadership style isn’t just who you are, but it’s who work and past experiences have trained you to be. My guest, leadership coach Mary Pat Jacobs, helps me unpack the mess with empathy, humor, and more therapy-adjacent insights than I was emotionally prepared for. Buckle up and get ready to take some notes, friends! Teamtailor is the fun, intuitive ATS that candidates actually like and recruiters don’t dread opening on Monday mornings. Create branded career sites, automate the boring stuff, and give candidates the hiring experience they dream of — without burning out your team. Check them out here. 0:04:12 - The Coaching Agreement 0:07:42 - Determining Success During Coaching 0:18:41 - The Story Hebba Tells Herself About Disappointment 0:27:23 - How Feeling Disappointment Impacts Hebba 0:42:31 - Patterns that Most OFten Shape How Leaders Show up at Work 0:46:21 - How Early Career Experiences Subtly Shape Default Leadership Styles 0:51:22 - Helping Separate Who People Are From What Work Taught Them to Be 0:54:28 - A Belief Most Professionals Need to Unlearn to Grow And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/ And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content! Follow Mary: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marypatjacobs/ Follow Hebba: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef | 1h 00m 17s | ||||||
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