International Enneagram Association Podcast

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Dr. Jerome “Jerry” Wagner and Patrick O’Leary, two pioneers in the Enneagram field. Patrick is a founding member of the IEA and co-author of the first Enneagram book, and Jerry is the author of the “Enneagram Spectrum of Personality Styles: an Introductory Guide” and an honorary founder of the IEA. This conversation dives into the rich history of the Enneagram as a tool, a model and an organization through these teachers’ individual and collective stories.Connect with us:Web: internationalenneagram.orgIEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comJoin the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.orgDr Jerome Wagner:Web: enneagramspe ctrum.comWeb: training.enneagramspectrum.comWeb: wepss.comEmail: jeromewagnerphd@gmail.comPatrick O’Leary:LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/patrick-h-o-leary-5b928760Seth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_creekmorePod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastPod: Awareness to Action Enneagram PodcastPod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. BLindsey Marks:IG: @lindseyfaithdmPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastLee Fields:Web: enneagrammatic.comIG: @enneagrammaticSeth Abram:IG: @integratedenneagramPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastFlemming Christensen:Web: flemmingchristensen.comTrainings: flemmingchristensen.com/trainingThe Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.htmlBook: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”IG: @flemmingchristensencomFB: Flemming ChristensenLinkedIn: Flemming ChristensenMentioned in this episode:Thanks to Evolving Enneagram for Sponsoring Today's Episode!Learn More About Evolving Enneagram

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Renée Rosario and Christopher T. Copeland from the Narrative Enneagram. Renée and Christopher share their history with the Enneagram and how it led them to work at the Narrative Enneagram where they became colleagues and friends. More importantly, they reflect on their trips of walking Camino de Santiago together where they developed their deep friendship, which is present throughout the conversation.Connect with us:Web: internationalenneagram.orgIEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comJoin the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.orgRenée Rosario:Web: narrativeenneagram.orgWeb: enneasight.comChristopher T. Copeland:Web: narrativeenneagram.orgWeb: illuminatingpaths.comPod: Heart of the EnneagramSeth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_creekmorePod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastPod: Awareness to Action Enneagram PodcastPod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. BLindsey Marks:IG: @lindseyfaithdmPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastLee Fields:Web: enneagrammatic.comIG: @enneagrammaticSeth Abram:IG: @integratedenneagramPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastFlemming Christensen:Web: flemmingchristensen.comTrainings: flemmingchristensen.com/trainingThe Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.htmlBook: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”IG: @flemmingchristensencomFB: Flemming ChristensenLinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Russ Hudson and Lynda Roberts of The Enneagram Institute. We hear these two longtime friends and colleagues interact as they share their personal history with the Enneagram. We learn the vast differences that led them to become some of the founding members of the Enneagram. Russ talks about the creation of the IEA and becoming the first vice president for the organization. Lynda reveals some of the things that influence how she engages in the Enneagram, such as her time as a high school math teacher. With their origin stories dating back over 25 years, they discuss how the Enneagram community has evolved over time.Connect with us:Web: internationalenneagram.orgIEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comJoin the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.orgRuss Hudson:Web: russhudson.comWeb: enneagraminstitute.comLynda Roberts:Web: enneagraminstitute.comSeth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_creekmorePod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastPod: Awareness to Action Enneagram PodcastPod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. BLindsey Marks:IG: @lindseyfaithdmPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastLee Fields:Web: enneagrammatic.comIG: @enneagrammaticSeth Abram:IG: @integratedenneagramPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastFlemming Christensen:Web: flemmingchristensen.comTrainings: flemmingchristensen.com/trainingThe Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.htmlBook: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”IG: @flemmingchristensencomFB: Flemming ChristensenLinkedIn: Flemming ChristensenMentioned in this episode:Learn About Flemming Christensen

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Seth “Creek” Creekmore, Lee Fields, Lindsey Marks and Seth Abram speak with Suzanne Stabile, an internationally recognized Enneagram Master who has conducted over 500 Enneagram workshops for over 30 years. As a first time attendee at the IEA Experience, Suzanne was one of the Enneagram Pioneers that participated in the Keynote Panel along with Russ Hudson, Anne Mureé and Micky ScottBey Jones. Suzanne is joined on this episode by her husband and son, Joe and Joel, as they reveal their story with the Enneagram–how they learned about it and has become woven in their lives. Drawing from her personal experiences, we hear why her unique and practical approach through storytelling is why she is such an influential voice in the Enneagram community.Connect with us:Web: internationalenneagram.orgIEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comJoin the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.orgSuzanne Stabile:Web: suzannestabile.comWeb: lifeinthetrinityministry.comIG: @suzannestabilePod: theenneagramjourney.orgSeth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_creekmorePod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastPod: Awareness to Action Enneagram PodcastPod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. BLindsey Marks:IG: @lindseyfaithdmPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastLee Fields:Web: enneagrammatic.comIG: @enneagrammaticSeth Abram:IG: @integratedenneagramPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastFlemming Christensen:Web: flemmingchristensen.comTrainings: flemmingchristensen.com/trainingThe Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.htmlBook: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”IG: @flemmingchristensencomFB: Flemming ChristensenLinkedIn: Flemming ChristensenMentioned in this episode:Learn About Flemming Christensen

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to the Endnote presentation by Chichi Agorom from the IEA Global Conference in 2023. Chichi is a certified Enneagram teacher and practitioner, Associate Faculty with the Narrative Enneagram, and holds a Master of Arts in Clinical Mental Health Counseling and a Post-Master's Certificate in Marriage and Family Therapy. Drawing from the theme of the conference–Unite and Ignite–she discusses how the Enneagram can be used as a tool for our collective liberation, drawing from her book, “The Enneagram for Black Liberation.” She explores how motivation behind our behavior and context–social, race, gender, social economics, religion, etc, that impact how we see ourselves and other people–are important for our inner work.Connect with us:Web: internationalenneagram.orgIEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comJoin the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.orgIEA Conference Proposal Submission Information & Guidelines: internationalenneagram.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/2025-Proposal-Submission-Information-Guidelines.pdfIEA Global Podcast Proposal Submission Form: forms.gle/Q48QXSwQ3zDfDJaJAChichi Agorom:Web: chichiagorom.comBook: The Enneagram for Black LiberationIG: @theenneagramforblackliberationAephoria Partners:Web: aephoriapartners.comFB: Aephoria Partners ConsultingMentioned in this episode:Learn About Flemming Christensen

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Seth “Creek” Creekmore and Ahmad Wazir speak with Flemming Christensen, founder and owner of THINK ABOUT IT and The Enneagram Institute of Denmark, about his work with the Enneagram. In this first part of the conversation, we get to know Flemming as he shares stories from his early career, the loss of loved ones, and his discovery of what he calls the “blind type.” Enneagram Trainings Throughout the conversation, Flemming reflects on how his relationship with the Enneagram has evolved - from using it as a tool for consulting to embracing it as a mindset and spiritual practice. He also describes how his Zen Buddhist training has shaped his understanding of presence, awareness, and the deeper purpose of self-inquiry. Connect with Flemming on LinkedIn Highlights from the episode include: 1. The Blind Enneagram TypeFlemming introduces the concept of the blind type—the type whose qualities we resist, ignore, or reject. He describes how discovering his own blind type transformed his relationships, softened his leadership style, and opened new dimensions in his teaching.Listen to the second episode with Flemming Christensen 2. Cultural Perspectives on Growth and TeachingFlemming shares insights gained from working with Enneagram students from diverse cultural backgrounds. From Denmark to Egypt and the United States, he reflects on how cultural values such as equality, authority, and co-creation shape how people learn, teach, and engage in personal development. 3. The Enneagram as a MindsetRather than viewing the Enneagram as just a personality tool, Flemming describes it as a mindset for living. Influenced by Buddhist psychology, he explains how the Enneagram can support presence, surrender, and the capacity to meet life as it is.Tune in for a thoughtful conversation about depth, loss, integration, and what it means to live an Enneagram-informed life.Connect with us: IEA Website IEA Global Podcast Proposal Submission Form.Mentioned in this episode:Learn About Flemming Christensen