Intuitive Self: IFS + Intuition + Spirituality with Natalie Deering

In this episode, I sit down with Kay Gardner, one of the original “mothers” of Internal Family Systems (IFS), to discuss her new book, Calling Ourselves Back Home: The Spiritual and Energetic Lens of IFS. Kay shares her journey with IFS and what it has been like to finally take the “lid” off the spiritual and intuitive aspects of her work. We explore legacy and cultural burdens, the historical oppression of the divine feminine, and how these burdens can impact our ability to trust and express our intuition. We also talk about the power of imagination, reconnecting with our innate intuitive nature, and what it means to remember the spirituality that has always been within us. Kay and I dive into guides—what they are, how we might notice them, and how they can support our journey. And in a fun and unexpected moment, we discover that Kay and I share a guide! In This Episode: Kay’s origin story with IFS Legacy and cultural burdens The divine feminine, intuition, and imagination Reclaiming our intuitive and spiritual nature The cultural fear of speaking our intuitive knowing aloud Connecting with guides and noticing their presence Kay’s new book, Calling Ourselves Back Home Connect with Kay: Website Book: Calling Ourselves Back Home: The Spiritual and Energetic Lens of IFS ________________________________ ✨ NEW THIS FALL: IFS + INTUITION + SPIRITUALITY CONSULTATION GROUP ✨ I’m offering a monthly consultation group for IFS providers who are curious about exploring the spiritual and intuitive dimensions of IFS work—both within our own inner work and with our clients. Topics May Include:✨ Intuition & the 6 Clairs✨ Connecting with Spirit, guides & guardian angels✨ Ancestors✨ Past lives✨ Unattached burdens✨ Spiritual experiences that arise through parts work✨ How intuition may weave into our work with clients✨ How we discern intuitive information from parts, projections, or other experiencesMy hope is that this becomes a space where we can be curious, open, grounded, and discerning—without feeling like we have to have all the answers.Details:🌙 For IFS providers who have completed Level 1 training. Does NOT count towards IFS certification. 🌙 Meets once a month on Thursdays via Zoom🌙 1:00–2:30 PM EST🌙 $125 per person/per session🌙 Limited to 4 participantsPotential start date is September 24th or October 8th! Interested or ready to sign up? Use this link to contact me! ___________________________________ Want to work with Natalie for Intuitive Parts/IFS Therapy or Spiritual/IFS Consultation? Contact her below Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________ Help Support the Podcast by Donating Here! You can also support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review!

Is anxiety something to overcome—or could it be inviting us into a deeper relationship with ourselves? In this episode of The Intuitive Self Podcast, I sit down with trauma therapist John Clarke to explore anxiety through the lenses of Internal Family Systems (IFS), nervous system awareness, and trauma healing. Together, we discuss why anxiety is unique to each person, the burdens it often carries, and how approaching it with curiosity and compassion can lead to profound healing. We also explore perfectionism, shame, masking, supporting others with anxiety, and how to discern the difference between fear and intuition. In This Episode We Explore: Why anxiety is different for everyone The nervous system's role in anxiety Common burdens such as "I'm not enough" Perfectionism, shame, and masking Why anxiety isn't something to eliminate How to support someone experiencing anxiety The connection between anxiety, intuition, and Self-energy Practical steps for turning toward anxiety with compassion About John Clarke John Clarke is a trauma therapist, Clinical Director of Calm Again Counseling in San Francisco, host of the Going Inside podcast, and founder of Pathways to Self, a clinical consultation community for trauma therapists. With more than 13 years of experience and advanced training in Internal Family Systems (IFS), EMDR, and Somatic Experiencing, John is passionate about making trauma therapy more accessible while helping therapists build sustainable practices that support both their clients and themselves. Connect with John Website: https://www.johnclarketherapy.com/ Instagram: @johnclarketherapy YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@John-Clarke-Therapy If this conversation resonates with you, share it with someone who may be struggling with anxiety or searching for a more compassionate way to understand it. As always, thank you for listening and for continuing the courageous journey of turning toward all parts of yourself with curiosity, compassion, and Self-leadership! _____________________________ Want to work with Natalie for Intuitive Parts/IFS Therapy or Spiritual/IFS Consultation? Contact her below Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________ Help Support the Podcast by Donating Here! You can also support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review!

My guest today is Jenny Hayo (she/her)—teacher, guide, and practitioner of wisdom traditions for over 25 years—to explore the living, breathing experience of Self-energy and how it shapes our inner and outer worlds. Together, we dive into: What it means to embody Self-energy instead of holding it as just an idea. The many ways people describe Self-energy, and how language can both help and limit us. A playful, unexpected moment when an otter appeared, bringing laughter into our conversation. What we are actually embodying when we talk about “being in Self.” The practice of interoception—tuning into the body’s signals and sensations. The difference between listening to the body and having an agenda for it. How Self can be both a deeply spiritual and beautifully ordinary experience. Ways to discover what your unique Self-energy feels like. The heart as a powerful portal into Self-energy. A simple practice Jenny shares for cultivating embodiment and accessing Self-energy in daily life. __________________________ About Jenny Hayo Jenny Hayo has practiced and taught in the wisdom traditions for over 25 years. She synthesizes her decades of consciousness studies, meditation, and embodiment-centered practices to support students along the path of awakening. Her work is informed by Hindu philosophy, classical yoga, tantric Buddhism, and various somatic modalities. Jenny is certified in Hakomi, Internal Family Systems (IFS), and as a Yoga Therapist. Her understanding of the subtle body—and the importance of our relationship with it—lies at the heart of her work. Jenny teaches public workshops, trainings, retreats, and offers individual coaching for students on the spiritual journey. She is deeply committed to creating a world of wakefulness and liberation for all. Connect with Jenny Hayo:📞 Phone: 206.931.8992📧 Email: [email protected]🌐 Website: www.jennyhayo.com Tune in and join us as we explore how to embody Self-energy—not as a concept, but as a lived, heart-centered experience! __________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________ Donate to the podcast Here! Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100! Please email [email protected] for more information. Thank you for the support! *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*

What happens when Internal Family Systems meets the mystical? In this episode I’m joined once again by therapist, teacher, and spiritual guide Chris Hancock to explore Transpersonal Internal Family Systems (T-IFS)—a sacred weaving of parts work with direct connection to the Divine. Together, we explore how T-IFS opens portals to higher realms of healing, the many expressions of Divine love and light, and how spiritual beings—including Mother Mary and Isis—can participate in unburdenings and transformation. Chris also shares his process of spiritual awakening and the path that led him to co-create this multidimensional form of healing. I share my own powerful T-IFS session with Chris, including an emotional message received from Mother Mary that brought me to tears. This episode is a testament to what becomes possible when we listen deeply, surrender, and allow Love itself to lead the way. _______________________________ In this episode, we discuss: What is Transpersonal IFS and how it evolved The many expressions of the Divine and how they show up in healing How Chris integrates higher realms into unburdenings Stories from powerful T-IFS sessions, including guides, ancestors, and angelic presences Parts that block access to the Divine and how to gently be with them My personal experience with Mother Mary and Isis during a T-IFS session The emotional and sacred message Chris received from Mother Mary the day after our session. ______________________________ About Chris Hancock Chris Hancock, LCSW, ACMHP is a licensed therapist with over 26 years of experience and the heart behind Therapy Outside the Box, based in Nashville, TN. His journey through burnout, mystical awakening, and surrender to Divine guidance led him to develop a unique healing modality known as Transpersonal IFS (T-IFS)—a powerful blend of IFS, spiritual gnosis, and multidimensional light transmission. Chris works in direct relationship with Divine Feminine and Divine Masculine archetypes and is a devoted channel of Mother Mary, offering deeply sacred healing experiences that are grounded in love, unity, and soul remembrance. Connect with Chris: Website: www.therapyoutsidethebox.com Instagram: @therapyoutsidethebox Phone: 615.430.2778 ______________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________ Donate to the podcast Here! Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100! Please email [email protected] for more information. Thank you for the support! *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*

What if your insomnia isn't a problem to fix, but a part of you that needs your attention? In this insightful and compassionate conversation, I’m joined by somatic IFS and leadership coach Katie LaCelle to explore the deep connection between sleeplessness and our inner system. Katie shares her personal journey with chronic insomnia and how Internal Family Systems (IFS) offered a radically different way of relating to wakefulness—one that invites curiosity, compassion, and presence. Together, we explore how insomnia can be understood through the lens of parts work, what happens when protector parts activate at night, and why asking “Who’s awake?” might be more helpful than trying to fall back asleep. Katie also offers grounded techniques and nervous system tools to support better sleep—not by overriding parts, but by listening to them. Whether you struggle with occasional restlessness or chronic insomnia, this episode offers powerful insights into how we can meet our sleepless parts with kindness—and finally begin to rest. _____________________________ We Explore:🌙 Katie’s personal experience with insomnia and burnout🧠 The “Just Ask” principle in IFS: Who’s awake? What do you need?🔦 Why certain protector parts become active at night🌀 A theory on nightmares and sleep as a consent violation for some parts⚖️ Common polarizations around sleep (e.g., “I need to sleep” vs. “I need to stay alert”)🧘 Techniques for grounding before sleep and during the day🧩 How to be with insomnia parts instead of battling them🌿 The power of observing and noticing what’s there—without trying to change it ___________________________ About Katie LaCelle:Katie LaCelle is a somatic IFS and leadership coach who helps people reconnect with their body’s wisdom and uncover the internal leaders they already carry within. She specializes in working with high achievers, people pleasers, and caretakers—especially those navigating burnout or struggling with sleep. Katie regularly assists with IFS Institute trainings and is currently pursuing her Somatic Experiencing Practitioner certification. Her work blends deep nervous system support with compassionate parts work to create lasting, embodied change. ______________________________ Learn More & Connect with Katie:🧘 IFS for Insomnia Course: cressanallc.com/about-insomnia-course📸 Instagram: @cressanallc🌐 Website: www.cressanallc.com Tune in for a gentle, eye-opening conversation on what it really means to rest—and how befriending our sleepless parts might be the first step. _____________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________ Donate to the podcast Here! Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100! Please email [email protected] for more information. Thank you for the support! *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*

In this deeply personal episode, I sit down with my brother, Sam Deering, to explore the layered journey of identity—how it forms, evolves, fractures, and heals over a lifetime. Sam shares openly about his search for belonging through many identities. We dive into big questions like Who am I? and Where do I belong?, weaving in the lens of Internal Family Systems (IFS) to understand how parts of ourselves are shaped by survival, societal pressures, and the deep human need for connection. _________________________ We explore: What identity really means, and why it matters How society pressures us to exile parts of who we are The desperate human need for belonging and connection Sam’s identity journey How anger became a tool for survival and expression as a man Lessons the military taught him about values, boundaries, and self-trust Using creativity and boundaries to channel identity healthily How Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy sheds light on identity fragmentation and healing The power of acceptance, kindness, and making space for mistakes Why diversifying your identity is essential for resilience and wholeness Sam speaks with honesty, humor, and hard-won wisdom about how belonging isn't something we find "out there"—it's something we reclaim inside ourselves, one part at a time. ________________________ About Sam Deering Sam Deering is a potter living in the hills of southern New Hampshire, working with one of humanity’s oldest mediums: clay. After leaving the military and enrolling in a college pottery class on the GI Bill, Sam found a new path—one rooted in simplicity, creativity, and grounded living. He apprenticed under master potter Kevin Crowe at Tye River Pottery in Virginia, and today he creates beautiful, functional pieces that make everyday life feel a little calmer, a little richer, and a little more human. _______________________________ Connect with Sam & See His Work: 🌐 Spotted Horse Pottery on Etsy📸 @spottedhorse_pottery on Instagram Tune in now for a conversation that’s honest, soulful, and full of insight about belonging, becoming, and the courage it takes to live as your whole self. _____________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________ Donate to the podcast Here! Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100! Please email [email protected] for more information. Thank you for the support! *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*

What if your birth chart could help you find the parts of you longing to be witnessed? What if the stars weren’t about prediction—but about reflection? In this rich and expansive conversation, I’m joined by Sarah Temel, licensed trauma therapist, IFS practitioner, and founder of No Bad Charts, to explore the deeply supportive intersection of Internal Family Systems (IFS) and evolutionary astrology. ____________________________ We dive into:🌙 How astrology-informed IFS uses the birth chart as a fluid map of your soul’s lesson plan🌙 How to use chart placements to identify trailheads, parts, legacy burdens, and Self-energy🌙 The meaning of the twelve Houses and how they reflect different areas of life and parts of the psyche🌙 Why no chart is a bad chart, and how astrology can be a tool for self-reflection, compassion, and curiosity🌙 Reflective questions that help integrate astrology and IFS in personal and clinical work This episode is an invitation to meet your system with more clarity and compassion, using the ancient language of the stars with the grounded wisdom of IFS. Whether you’re astrology-curious or already fluent, Sarah’s insight will deepen your appreciation for both modalities! Plus, Sarah uses my birth chart as examples during the conversation and no surprise, my mind was BLOWN away by what she shares. I'm so excited for you to listen in! ________________________ ✨ Meet Our Guest: Sarah Temel, LCSW Sarah is an IFS-trained, licensed trauma therapist passionate about the intersection of human spirituality and healing from adversity. She is the founder of No Bad Charts, where she teaches others to integrate IFS-inspired astrology into clinical and personal work. Sarah is also an EMDRIA-certified therapist, a consultant-in-training, and is pursuing credentialing in drama therapy. Through her New Jersey-based private practice, Imagine Healing, and her spiritual consulting platform Window-Within.com, Sarah offers individual sessions, workshops, and semi-private groups for clinicians and seekers alike. _____________________________ 🔗 Connect with Sarah Temel 🌐 NoBadCharts.com🌐 ImagineHealingTrauma.com📸 Instagram: @nobadcharts🌿 Window-Within.com _____________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________ Donate to the podcast Here! Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100! Please email [email protected] for more information. Thank you for the support! *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*