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69 - Leadership and All This Uncertainty: Do Better
Jun 4, 2026
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68 - Disagree and Commit: Real Dissent, Psychological Safety and Accountability in Action
May 7, 2026
38m 11s
67 - Expectation Drift: How Vague Leadership Breaks Execution
Mar 31, 2026
41m 12s
66 - Stop Outsourcing Thinking: Rebuilding Your Team's Problem-Solving Muscles
Feb 27, 2026
42m 47s
65 - Strategy is Not a Slide Deck
Jan 22, 2026
36m 44s
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 6/4/26 |  69 - Leadership and All This Uncertainty: Do Better | Welcome to episode 69 of Leadership Kung Fu! When times feel uncertain and people are dealing with so much both in and outside of the workplace, where does that put leadership? Jen and Sandi say "Do better!" Join them on this episode as they tackle: The role of the passing of time Why it's a non-HR issue What influences decision-making and the impact it can have Value vs. price increase The corporate spin What goes first in tough times or when you're ill-prepared Fairness vs. sameness Measuring capacity and cognitive load External and internal pressures What optimism can truly do when capacity is measured correctly and more! Thank you so much for listening! If you like what you hear, leave us a review on your favorite podcast platform, and make sure to check out the video over on the Leadership Kung Fu Youtube Channel! Connect with Jen on LinkedIn and visit her website Own Up!® Connect with Sandi on LinkedIn and visit her website Satori Consulting, Inc! Have a comment, question, or topic for Sandi and Jen? Email us at podcast@dramafreeworkforce.com or leave us a comment on LinkedIn. | — | ||||||
| 5/7/26 |  68 - Disagree and Commit: Real Dissent, Psychological Safety and Accountability in Action✨ | disagreement in the workplacepsychological safety+4 | — | Leadership Kung FuOwn Up!®+3 | — | disagree and commitpsychological safety+5 | — | 38m 11s | |
| 3/31/26 |  67 - Expectation Drift: How Vague Leadership Breaks Execution✨ | Expectation DriftLeadership+3 | — | Leadership Kung FuOwn Up!®+1 | — | Expectation Driftleadership+3 | — | 41m 12s | |
| 2/27/26 |  66 - Stop Outsourcing Thinking: Rebuilding Your Team's Problem-Solving Muscles✨ | outsourcing thinkingproblem-solving+4 | — | Leadership Kung FuOwn Up!®+4 | — | problem-solving musclescritical thinking+5 | — | 42m 47s | |
| 1/22/26 |  65 - Strategy is Not a Slide Deck✨ | strategyworkplace action+4 | — | Leadership Kung FuOwn Up!®+1 | — | strategyleadership+5 | — | 36m 44s | |
| 11/28/25 |  64 - Your New Leader Isn't Ready (Yet!)✨ | succession planningleadership training+4 | — | PXT Select®EverythingDiSC®+3 | LinkedIn | succession plansleadership+6 | — | 38m 33s | |
| 10/31/25 |  63 - Strategic Momentum: The Discipline of Aligned Action✨ | aligned actionteam strategies+4 | — | Own Up!®Satori Consulting, Inc | — | aligned actionleadership drift+6 | — | 36m 52s | |
| 9/30/25 |  62 - First Moves Matter: Helping a New Leader✨ | new leadersleadership transition+4 | — | — | — | leadershipnew leaders+5 | — | 40m 26s | |
| 9/16/25 |  61 - From Talking to Doing: Why Leadership Teams Stall✨ | leadership teamsaction vs. words+5 | — | Own Up!®Satori Consulting, Inc | — | leadershipteam dynamics+5 | — | 28m 01s | |
| 7/31/25 |  60 - The Art of the Mid-Year Check In✨ | mid-year check inself reflection+5 | — | Own Up!Satori Consulting, Inc | — | leadershipself reflection+6 | — | 34m 22s | |
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| 5/31/25 |  59 - Conscious Un-Bossing: The New Distaste for Managing✨ | Conscious Un-Bossingworkplace culture+4 | — | Workers are the Solution, Not the Problem: A Guidebook to Leading DifferentlyHumanocracy+1 | — | Conscious Un-Bossingworkplace culture+5 | — | 34m 35s | |
| 4/30/25 |  58 - Leading Hybrid and Remote✨ | hybrid workremote work+4 | — | Own Up!®Satori Consulting, Inc | — | hybrid workforcesremote work+5 | — | 33m 21s | |
| 3/31/25 |  57 - Reactive Fist, Broken Mind: The Cost of Fearful Leadership | Don't be afraid, it's a new episode of Leadership Kung Fu! This episode is all about fearful leadership and what that can cost your place of business. Jen and Sandi waste no time diving into what can truly be at stake when leadership takes a reactive instead of a strategic approach. Listen along as they delve into: what can trigger reactive leadership how you show up and how that can impact your team and their action what short-term thinking means for long term effects how reactionary actions affect overall messages/goals of a company what drivers trigger responses/what leaders might be afraid of talent drain the fear around fear-based decisions the dangers of a non-response impacts on factors outside of business what helps create strategic calm the importance of time for strategies tools that can help combat reactive leadership and more! Listen in to help give your leadership tips to retract the reactivity and hold space for strategy. Thank you so much for listening! If you like what you hear, leave us a review on your favorite podcast platform, and make sure to check out the video cast under the "Videos" tab! Connect with Jen on LinkedIn and visit her website Own Up!® Connect with Sandi on LinkedIn and visit her website Satori Consulting, Inc! Have a comment, question, or topic for Sandi and Jen? Email us at podcast@own-up.com or leave us a comment on LinkedIn! If you like what you hear, leave us a review on your favorite listening platform! | — | ||||||
| 2/28/25 |  56 - Deflect and Redirect: Handling Conflict Like a Kung Fu Master | How to deal with conflict can be, well, confliciting! In this episode, Jen and Sandi tackle the topic of conflict and how knowing yourself can aid you in knowing how to conquer conflict! Listen along as they cover: why conflict can be good for leaders the different types of conflict how to identify what your own conflict behavior is what harm withdrawing from conflict can do the role of EQ (emotional intelligence) in conflict and the weight it carries the gift of considering different perspectives and the ability to get out of your own head how engaging with others is NOT a weakness in leadership increased communication versatility the importance of sleeping on a decision and taking time to process the information the cost of doing conflict poorly and more! Tune in to hear more tips so you can conquer conflict with ease! Thank you so much for listening! If you like what you hear, leave us a review on your favorite podcast platform, and make sure to check out the video cast under the "Videos" tab! Connect with Jen on LinkedIn and visit her website Own Up!® Connect with Sandi on LinkedIn and visit her website Satori Consulting, Inc! Have a comment, question, or topic for Sandi and Jen? Leave us a comment on LinkedIn and be sure to leave us a review on your favorite listening platform! | — | ||||||
| 1/31/25 |  55 - Leading with Clarity-Debunking Leadership Myths | Welcome to Episode 55 of Leadership Kung Fu! Jen and Sandi are back after a shiny new rebrand and a first episode of 2025! To start out this year, listen along as they tackle topics such as: what has changed within things you subscribe to and how the workplace is different than what it was 10/15+ years ago how "no" is not a bad word in the workplace vulnerability is a good, healthy thing not all leaders are charismatic Everything DiSC by Wiley results vs. relationships and the importance of workplace connections how relationships ≠ "liking" someone how our words set us up to show up time and energy management HBR: Manage Your Energy, Not Your Time and more! Tune in as they bust more leadership myths to start your 2025 with clarity! Thank you so much for listening! If you like what you hear, leave us a review on your favorite podcast platform, and make sure to check out the video cast under the "Videos" tab! Connect with Jen on LinkedIn and visit her website Own Up!® Connect with Sandi on LinkedIn and visit her website Satori Consulting, Inc! Have a comment, question, or topic for Sandi and Jen? Leave us a comment on LinkedIn! | — | ||||||
| 12/27/24 |  54 - The Art of Goal Setting, Keeping, and Achieving | Happy holidays from Organizational Transformational Kung Fu: The Podcast! Jen and Sandi are looking to the future this week and talk about goals and how to set them, keep them, and meet them! Follow along as they chat about: their year in review what reflection can do for you and writing vs. typing/digital record keeping hard vs. soft transformations the role of practice and support in discipline what we're really doing when we "let ourselves off the hook" the importance of the set up short term does for long term how we are influenced by the number of goals we set Atomic Habits by James Clear considering a "shift" instead of a "stop" an exciting new change coming to OTKF in 2025! We want to thank each and every one of you for your support all throughout 2024, and we cannot wait to see what we can do in 2025! See you next year! Thank you so much for listening! If you like what you hear, leave us a review on your favorite podcast platform, and make sure to check out the video cast under the "Videos" tab! Connect with Jen on LinkedIn and visit her website Own Up!® Connect with Sandi on LinkedIn and visit her website Satori Consulting, Inc! Have a comment, question, or topic for Sandi and Jen? Leave us a comment on LinkedIn! | — | ||||||
| 11/29/24 |  53 - Listening as a Leader | In this week's episode of OT Kung Fu, Jen and Sandi revisit the types of listening they talked about with author Sean Grace and ponder how the listening types affect us in the workplace. Join them as they cover: how virtual calls have affected listening the importance of body language what curiosity really does for you conversational blindspots levels of learning Neha Sangwan's book TalkRx: Five Steps to Honest Conversations That Create Connection, Health, and Happiness and more! Thank you so much for listening! If you like what you hear, leave us a review on your favorite podcast platform, and make sure to check out the video cast under the "Videos" tab! Connect with Jen on LinkedIn and visit her website Own Up!® Connect with Sandi on LinkedIn and visit her website Satori Consulting, Inc! Have a comment, question, or topic for Sandi and Jen? Leave us a comment on LinkedIn! | — | ||||||
| 10/25/24 |  52 - Say What? The Art of the Question with Author Sean Grace | Welcome back to OT Kung Fu: The Podcast! Sandi and Jen are joined this week by the incredible author Sean Grace! From Sean's website: "Sean Grace is a communication consultant, author, coach, and speaker, with over 25 years of experience developing and training sales, marketing, and leadership talent across diverse industries. His unique brand of business consulting is forged from his long career in media, advertising, and the creative arts. Sean studied music performance at the Juilliard School and SUNY Purchase, and finance at Wharton. As an award winning musician and multi-instrumentalist, he borrows techniques from jazz improvisation to help foster creative collaboration and cooperation within and across teams. Sean's track record of success as a consultant and coach has earned him a reputation as a trusted advisor and trainer to some of the world's most innovative and successful organizations." Listen along as Jen, Sandi, and Sean discuss topics from Sean's new book The Art of the Question: A Guide for Seekers, Dreamers, Problem Solvers and Leaders such as: the value of creative thinking in a post-pandemic workplace Sean's workflow in how he got started in the formulation of questions how vital curiosity and openness is to the process of questions the 3 phase model types of listening and the effect on conversations and situations the Socratic 8 his work as a musician and his album "Wonderland" the origin of the name OT Kung Fu! You can connect with Sean at peakluma.com and find his book over at Amazon! Thank you so much for joining us, Sean! Thank you so much for listening! If you like what you hear, leave us a review on your favorite podcast platform, and make sure to check out the video cast under the "Videos" tab! Connect with Jen on LinkedIn and visit her website Own Up!® Connect with Sandi on LinkedIn and visit her website Satori Consulting, Inc! Have a comment, question, or topic for Sandi and Jen? Leave us a comment on LinkedIn! | — | ||||||
| 9/27/24 |  51 - Conversations on Change with Curtis Bateman | Welcome to Episode 51 of OT Kung Fu: The Podcast! Joining Jen and Sandi this week is Curtis Bateman, co-author of Change: How to Turn Uncertainty Into Opportunity and vice president of direct international offices for FranklinCovey. From the FranklinCovey site: "With over twenty-five years of experience in the training industry, Curtis is an internationally recognized presenter, content developer, change consultant, business leader, and coach. His passion for enabling organizations "at change" resulted in the co-creation of transformative, industry-leading solutions, including Change Element, Leaders@Change, Managing Millennials, Millennials@Work, and the Change Practitioner." We're thrilled to have Curtis join us to talk about what change means to a leader and the workplace as a whole! Listen along to the conversation as they cover: the behaviors that show up when change comes what it means to be reactive vs. choosing a reaction what a change introduction does risks and rewards of change how leaders can maintain good effects of change compliance vs. engagement and more! You can read more about Curtis and check out more of his articles at his FranklinCovey page and follow him on his LinkedIn! Thank you so much for listening! Make sure to check out the video cast under the "Videos" tab! Connect with Jen on LinkedIn and visit her website Own Up!® Connect with Sandi on LinkedIn and visit her website Satori Consulting, Inc! Have a comment, question, or topic for Sandi and Jen? Leave us a comment on LinkedIn! | — | ||||||
| 8/30/24 |  50 - Thinking About Hidden Potential by Adam Grant | It's OT Kung Fu's 50th episode! We have another book review episode, this week featuring Hidden Potential by Adam Grant! Join Jen and Sandi while they cover topics like: -Performance Reviews and how they have changed from potential to goal-oriented -How imperfect leaders are more beneficial than "perfect" leaders -How meeting folks where there are at instead of where you want them to be cultivates a better workplace culture -High potential compared to related experience -Why learning agility is more valuable as a leadership predictor -Why self-reflection is such an important tool -Learning curves and useful uncomfortability -Imposter Syndrome and feedback -Self-awareness and how it echoes into other aspects of life -How a "scarcity"mindset affects you -"Learning Organizations" and follow-through -How tech and instant delivery plays in You can check you more about Adam Grant book and take the assessment on his page at adamgrant.net! Thank you so much for listening! Make sure to check out the video cast under the "Videos" tab! Connect with Jen on LinkedIn and visit her website Own Up!® Connect with Sandi on LinkedIn and visit her website Satori Consulting, Inc! Have a comment, question, or topic for Sandi and Jen? Leave us a comment on LinkedIn! | — | ||||||
| 7/31/24 |  49 - Leadership and Building Organizational Capacity with Todd Conklin | You made it to the end of July, and we have a new episode of OT Kung Fu for you to celebrate and gear up before a new month begins tomorrow! Jen and Sandi are joined on this episode by Dr. Todd Conklin, author of Pre-Accident Investigations: An Introduction to Organizational Safety as well as host of his organizational safety podcast of the same name. From his website: "Todd Conklin spent 25 years at Los Alamos National Laboratory as a Senior Advisor for Organizational and Safety Culture. Los Alamos National Laboratory is one of the world's foremost research and development laboratories; Dr. Conklin has been working on the Human Performance program for the last 15 years of his 25-year career. It is in this fortunate position where he enjoys the best of both the academic world and the world of safety in practice. Conklin holds a Ph.D. in organizational behavior from the University of New Mexico. He speaks all over the world to executives, groups and work teams who are interested in better understanding the relationship between the workers in the field and the organization's systems, processes, and programs. He has brought these systems to major corporations around the world. Conklin practices these ideas not only in his own workplace, but also in the event investigations at other workplaces around the world. Conklin's best selling book, Pre-Accident Investigations: An introduction to Organizational Safety is a best selling book on safety. Conklin has several other books and a huge podcast following for his twice-weekly podcast of the same name. Conklin defines safety at his workplace like this: 'Safety is the ability for workers to be able to do work in a varying and unpredictable world.'" Listen along as they talk about the 5 HOP principles mentioned in Dr.Conklin's book and how leadership mindsets can flourish within those principles, what simply having confidence can do for you, "why?" versus "how?" and what kind of leader flocks to each question, and more! Thank you so much for joining us on this episode, Dr. Conklin! You can find all of Dr. Conklin's books and his podcast on his page on HOP Hub here. Dr. Conklin and Jen will be speaking at the next Conklin Conference in Santa Fe, NM from September 10th-September 12th 2024. You can sign up for the conference HERE. Thank you so much for listening! Make sure to check out the video cast under the "Videos" tab! Connect with Jen on LinkedIn and visit her website Own Up!® Connect with Sandi on LinkedIn and visit her website Satori Consulting, Inc! Have a comment, question, or topic for Sandi and Jen? Leave us a comment on LinkedIn! | — | ||||||
| 6/28/24 |  48 - Influence as a Strategy: Getting Better Outcomes with Others | Happy Summer! Beat the heat with Sandi and Jen and listen along as they tackle the topic of influence (as a person, not for social media)! Today they cover: How reciprocity is different within the workplace How you show up as a leader to your peers vs. to your boss The traits of a successful workplace influencer Their love and use of the EverythingDiSC® by Wiley within training they have done Negotiation awareness and the balance required to not cross the line into manipulation Persuasion vs. Influence and more! Thank you so much for listening! Make sure to check out the video cast under the "Videos" tab! Connect with Jen on LinkedIn and visit her website Own Up!® Connect with Sandi on LinkedIn and visit her website Satori Consulting, Inc! Have a comment, question, or topic for Sandi and Jen? Leave us a comment on LinkedIn! | — | ||||||
| 5/24/24 |  47 - Work-Life Bloom with author Dan Pontefract | We have a real treat for listeners today! Jen and Sandi are joined by award-winning author Dan Pontefract to talk about his new book Work-Life Bloom: How to Nurture a Team that Flourishes! From his website: "Dan is a renowned keynote speaker who has presented at four TED events and delivers approximately 50 keynotes annually. He is an adjunct professor at the University of Victoria's Gustavson School of Business and has received over 25 industry, individual, and book awards." Listen along as Dan, Sandi, and Jen cover topics such as: The origin of Work-Life Bloom Personas in Work/Life Balance "Soil" vs "Water" tests in the workplace Workplace Vulnerability and Gen Z You can connect with Dan on his website donpontefract.com, and you can check out the book's page at worklifebloom.com Dan's Assessment: worklifebloom.com/work-life-assessment Connect with Dan on LinkedIn! Thank you so much for listening! Make sure to check out the video cast under the "Videos" tab! Connect with Jen on LinkedIn and visit her website Own Up!® Connect with Sandi on LinkedIn and visit her website Satori Consulting, Inc! Have a comment, question, or topic for Sandi and Jen? Leave us a comment on LinkedIn! | — | ||||||
| 4/19/24 |  46 - Critical Thinking and Problem Solving for Teams: A Red Teaming Review | Welcome back to OT Book Club, er, we mean OT Kung Fu! Jen and Sandi invite you to listen in as they discuss "Red Teaming: How Your Business Can Conquer the Competition by Challenging Everything" by Bryce G. Hoffman. Enjoy the ASMR of Jen and Sandi flipping through to their favorite parts and points of the book and chatting about how you can empower your teams to think critically in tough situations, and how you can get that critical thinking to produce critical solutions! If you want Jen and Sandi to reviews about teams or accountability solutions or situations in the future, let us know! Thank you so much for listening! Make sure to check out the video cast under the "Videos" tab! Connect with Jen on LinkedIn and visit her website Own Up!® Connect with Sandi on LinkedIn and visit her website Satori Consulting, Inc! Have a comment, question, or topic for Sandi and Jen? Leave us a comment on LinkedIn! | — | ||||||
| 2/23/24 |  45 - The Customer Experience and a Coaching Approach with Dan Coldwell | Happy February Podcast! Jen and Sandi are joined by Dan Coldwell this week, a colleague of Sandi's at Satori Consulting, Inc. Dan has 30 years of experience in financial services as an executive and industry speaker and has also served as chief marketing and chief operations officer in past positions. He is a hockey certified coach, and he "cross-pollinates" (as he puts it) between the business and sports world. Listen along as they chat about: Acting on feedback/pain points The 3 steps of responding to feedback Feedback collection Do's and Don'ts How to not fear bad reviews because of what they do for good reviews Thank you so much for joining Jen and Sandi, Dan! If you'd like to chat more with Dan about the customer experience, you can contact him through the Satori Consulting, Inc. site. Thank you so much for listening! Make sure to check out the video cast under the "Videos" tab! Connect with Jen on LinkedIn and visit her website Own Up!® Connect with Sandi on LinkedIn and visit her website Satori Consulting, Inc! Have a comment, question, or topic for Sandi and Jen? Leave us a comment on LinkedIn! | — | ||||||
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