
Full Interview: The Hidden Math Behind Everything
From NOVA Presents by GBH
August 27, 2026 · 1h 16m · Season 6 · Episode 24
About this episode
Jordan Ellenberg discusses the pervasive role of mathematics in various aspects of life and the universe.
Jordan Ellenberg tells Hakeem that math isn't just about numbers. It's about everything. The mathematician and bestselling author shares how AI models are trained through trial and error, why geometry secretly governs everything from family trees to statistical correlation, and why uncertainty, not certainty, is the true language of the universe. From new dimensions to hurricanes we can't quite predict, Jordan and Hakeem trace math's fingerprints across physics, language, and daily life in a preview of his upcoming book, Don't Be Too Sure. -------------------------- Guest Bio: Learn more about NOVA and visit our YouTube channel. Jordan Ellenberg is a professor of mathematics at the University of Wisconsin–Madison, specializing in number theory and arithmetic algebraic geometry. He is the New York Times bestselling author of How Not to Be Wrong and Shape, and his forthcoming book, Don't Be Too Sure, arrives in 2027
People in this episode
Host: Hakeem
Guest: Jordan Ellenberg
Topics covered
- mathematics
- AI models
- geometry
- uncertainty
- physics
- language
- daily life
Keywords
- mathematics
- AI
- geometry
- uncertainty
- physics
- family trees
- statistical correlation
- daily life
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: University of Wisconsin–Madison
Books & works: Don't Be Too Sure, How Not to Be Wrong, Shape
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