NTSB News Talk – Aviation Accidents, Safety Investigations & Pilot Lessons

In Episode 36 of NTSB News Talk, Max Trescott and Rob Mark examine a series of accidents that illustrate how quickly routine flights can unravel when pilots continue after the warning signs begin to accumulate.Brought to you by AVEMCO aircraft insurance.Support Rob and Max by making a donation at Patreon.comA Cessna 172, N1166F, crashes at night at Blackfoot, Idaho, after what appears to have been a go-around. A Cirrus SR22T, N625LK, crashes near Bend, Oregon, after remaining airborne for more than five hours in an unusual flight that authorities say ended intentionally. An Aerostar 601P, N800AA, barely climbs after a nighttime departure from Adirondack Regional Airport, raising the possibility of somatogravic illusion.They also discuss a Beech Baron, N202DK, lost after apparently continuing VFR into instrument weather, and a Piper Twin Comanche, N8154Y, that rolls inverted during a go-around following an earlier engine abnormality.Final reports include a Diamond DA42, N705JP, that lands long with a tailwind and insufficient runway remaining; an unregistered Piper PA-18 that stalls during a low-altitude predator-control flight; a Cirrus SR22T, N778WT damaged on an unfamiliar grass runway; and a Gulfstream G600, N600WE, that loses visual reference in heavy rain during landing.Plus, Rob reflects on the 45th anniversary of the PATCO strike and the warning he published shortly before it began. He talks about it on his Stories About Flying podcast.

Episode 18 begins with an extraordinary behind-the-scenes dispute surrounding the Air India Boeing 787 crash investigation. Max and Rob open with a Wall Street Journal report describing how U.S. technical experts arrived in Delhi last summer expecting to assist with the black-box analysis, only to be told they would need to board a late-night military flight to a remote facility. NTSB Chair Jennifer Homendy expressed concerns about U.S. personnel and equipment being moved into an area under State Department terrorism advisories, especially given rising tensions in the region. The NTSB pushed instead for data extraction either in Delhi or in Washington, triggering a rapid series of high-level calls involving the U.S. Secretary of Transportation, Boeing, and GE Aerospace.Indian officials insisted they had full capability to download the recorders, yet simultaneously requested more than 30 pieces of specialized equipment from the NTSB, further complicating the diplomatic dynamics. Homendy ultimately issued a 48-hour ultimatum: select Delhi or Washington for the data download, or the U.S. would withdraw from the investigation entirely. India chose Delhi, but the episode highlights how political sensitivities can shape technical investigations—especially when early evidence, as reported, suggested the possibility of intentional fuel-cutoff switch manipulation. The hosts note that pilot-suicide scenarios, though rare, account for more fatal commercial accidents than many pilots realize, citing EgyptAir, Germanwings, Malaysia 370, and other historical cases.From the geopolitical, the episode shifts to more traditional NTSB investigations. A midair collision in Canada between a Cessna 172 and a Piper Seminole resulted in the 172 losing a wing and crashing, while the Seminole landed safely. Max shares the surprising statistic that roughly half of U.S. midair collision victims survive and recounts how a midair experienced by Cirrus co-founder Alan Klapmeier helped inspire the CAPS parachute system.The next story involves a Piper Arrow III that crashed during a nighttime arrival in Pittsfield, Illinois. The pilot had flown nearly five hours from Alabama—an exceptionally long time in that type of aircraft—and arrived as conditions were deteriorating to low visibility and a 300-foot overcast. Max emphasizes the difficulty of recognizing inadvertent IMC at night and discusses how fatigue and lack of instrument proficiency may become factors once more details emerge.A TBM 700 accident in Monroe, Wisconsin offers another sobering look at missed-approach challenges. With visibilities down to a quarter-mile and ceilings around 300 feet, the aircraft attempted a GPS approach to Runway 12, then initiated a missed approach. Instead of climbing outbound on the published track, radar data shows the aircraft turning prematurely, losing airspeed, and entering a stall and loss of control. Max highlights how even experienced instrument pilots often under-practice missed approaches in actual IMC, making it one of the most common fatal accident points in general aviation.The episode then examines a dramatic near-miss involving an Air Arabia Maroc Airbus A320 departing Catania, Italy. A ferry crew failed to load weight-and-balance data into the MCDU, meaning no V-speeds were computed. The aircraft rotated late, climbed shallowly, then descended toward the sea at night, triggering multiple GPWS warnings before the crew recovered at just 41 feet above the water. With moonless, dark-night conditions and no visual horizon, this oversight nearly resulted in a hull loss. Both pilots were highly experienced—proof that skipping basic procedures can endanger even seasoned crews.Next, Max and Rob turn to the UPS MD-11 engine-separation crash in Louisville. New preliminary findings show fatigue cracking in engine-pylon attachment lugs, reminiscent of the American Airlines DC-10 crash in 1979 where a maintenance procedure overstressed the pylon. The MD-11 fleet remains grounded as inspections continue, and Max notes how fortunate it is that inspectors have since found additional cracks on other aircraft. Even with a rapid emergency-response drill completed just weeks earlier, the flight crew had no survivable options the moment the engine detached at rotation.Finally, the hosts analyze new details from the Cirrus SR22 crash in Lincoln, Montana. The pilot, attempting his first-ever night arrival at a mountainous airport with no instrument approach, lined up over a highway before maneuvering at low altitude, with flaps changing configuration and the autopilot still engaged while turning in the pattern. A stall warning sounded, followed by a steep bank and loss of control. Max emphasizes a longstanding teaching point: pilots should avoid first-time nighttime arrivals at unfamiliar mountain airports, especially those without instrument procedures—which often signals surrounding terrain too challenging to support one.Across all these stories, Max and Rob reinforce a common theme: safety is not a static condition but an ongoing behavior. Pilots must maintain awareness, practice critical skills like missed approaches and go-arounds, and respect how quickly conditions or workload can change. The episode offers practical insights for every pilot seeking to build resilience and margin into their flying.

Max Trescott and Rob Mark explore one of the most overlooked killers in aviation: common medications that quietly impair pilots and contribute to fatal crashes. While many aviators think over-the-counter or prescription drugs are safe if they “feel fine,” the NTSB’s recent accident reports tell a different story. In case after case, pilots who ignored FAA medication rules—or failed to understand them—lost control of their aircraft, sometimes within seconds of takeoff. Pilots should read the FAA's Over-the-counter (OTC) Medications Reference Guide before taking an OTC medication.The episode opens with a discussion of the NTSB’s recent safety recommendation involving Learjet landing-gear inspections, then pivots to a more personal revelation. While preparing a previous show, Max reviewed several fatal accident reports and realized that three of them, selected at random, shared a common factor: medication use. A fourth involved an untreated medical condition. That chance discovery became the foundation for this episode.The first accident involves N510KC, a Piper Malibu converted to turbine power that crashed shortly after takeoff in Nebraska. Toxicology revealed Ambien (Zolpidem), a powerful sleep aid. The pilot—experienced and well-trained—appeared to rotate normally before the airplane rolled left and hit trees. Rob recalls his own experience with Ambien and how it caused amnesia: “My wife said I was talking and walking before bed, and I had no memory of it.” The NTSB concluded that impairment and overloading likely caused the loss of control.The next accident centers on N915DV, a Cessna Turbo 206 that struck mountainous terrain in Utah. The pilot had taken cetirizine (Zyrtec), an antihistamine many pilots assume is “safe.” Yet studies show that even mild sedation can impair cognitive performance—especially at altitude. The U.S. Navy found that cetirizine increased errors during flight-simulation tests at 10,000 and 15,000 feet. Zyrtec appears on the FAA’s “no-go” list, and pilots must typically wait up to five days after the last dose before flying.In another case, N880A, a Cessna 414 stalled after takeoff when the elevator trim was left in a full-nose-up position. The pilot had taken sertraline (Zoloft), an antidepressant that requires special FAA issuance and strict medical monitoring. He hadn’t reported it on his medical. Investigators also found other red flags: diabetes, unresolved maintenance issues, and a non-functioning tachometer. Rob calls leaving the engines running while stepping out of the aircraft “reckless,” and Max explains how unreported antidepressant use can disqualify a pilot without proper documentation.The final crash involved N4184G, a Nanchang CJ-6A performing a flyover in Colorado. The pilot abruptly pulled into a vertical maneuver, stalled, and spun in. Post-accident analysis revealed uncontrolled diabetes with blood-sugar readings over eight times normal levels. He had previously disclosed diabetes on his FAA medical but failed to list it later—suggesting denial or complacency. Fatigue or blurred vision may have contributed to his erratic control inputs.Across these four crashes, one lesson stands out: pilots often underestimate how medications affect cognition and coordination. Even “safe” drugs can delay reactions, dull alertness, and create false confidence. Worse, some—like Ambien—suppress the very self-awareness needed to recognize impairment. Max and Rob stress that pilots aren’t receiving enough education about FAA medication restrictions; most training programs and BFRs never address them.They also highlight the human factor behind the data. “If you cheat,” Max warns, “the only person you’re cheating is yourself—and your family will pay the price.” Rob adds that instructors should explain not just which drugs are disqualifying, but why they impair performance.The takeaway: check every medication—prescription or over-the-counter—before you fly. Search the FAA’s AME Guide or AOPA’s medication database, and observe all required waiting periods. Pilots pride themselves on discipline and preparation; medication awareness deserves the same rigor.This powerful episode of NTSB News Talk turns four tragic crashes into lifesaving lessons for anyone who flies—or teaches others to fly.

In Episode 14 of NTSB News Talk, hosts Max Trescott and Rob Mark analyze a series of recent NTSB preliminary and final reports that reveal how weather, fatigue, distraction, and airspeed management continue to play major roles in both near misses and fatal crashes. With their characteristic mix of insight and practicality, the two veteran aviation journalists connect the dots between accidents that could have been avoided — from runway confusion at LAX to a tragic Cessna 210 in-flight breakup in a thunderstorm.The episode begins with a dramatic runway incursion at Los Angeles International Airport. An American Airlines A320 was forced to abort its takeoff at 145 knots when a Boeing 777 cargo jet accidentally turned onto the same runway. The controller, distracted and calling the wrong call sign several times, urged the cargo flight to “cross quickly,” which only compounded the confusion. Thanks to a quick-reacting Airbus crew and reliable communications on LiveATC.net, disaster was narrowly avoided. Rob and Max explain that high-speed rejected takeoffs are among the most dangerous maneuvers in aviation because they push brakes, thrust reversers, and pilot reflexes to their limits. They emphasize that even in this case — where no one was injured — such events underline how fatigue, communication errors, and poor situational awareness can converge in seconds at busy airports like LAX.From there, the hosts shift to a string of recent fatal general aviation crashes, all with different aircraft and weather profiles but a common theme: loss of control in challenging conditions.The first involved a TBM 700, N111RF, that crashed shortly after takeoff from New Bedford, Massachusetts, during poor weather associated with a nor’easter. The aircraft struck a car on Interstate 95, killing both people onboard. ADS-B data showed the plane leveled off at just 800 feet and remained below the cloud layer before descending out of control — possibly an example of a pilot hesitating to enter IMC, losing situational awareness in marginal VFR.Next, they discuss a Beech Baron, N121GJ that went down near Williston, Florida. Three people were killed when the twin appeared to descend rapidly — over 3,500 feet per minute — just as thunderstorms moved through the area. With lightning reported nearby, the NTSB suspects weather penetration or turbulence led to the loss of control.A third case, a Beechcraft King Air C90, N291CC, that crashed near Hicks Airfield in Texas, drew particular attention because it appeared to be a training flight. The aircraft had spent 90 minutes practicing approaches before a sudden, steep, left-turn descent at low altitude. ADS-B data showed the aircraft slowed below 100 knots, consistent with an aerodynamic stall, possibly during simulated engine-out training. Both pilots were killed. Max and Rob discuss how multi-engine training carries inherent risk, especially when one engine is feathered or throttled back. “Airspeed is life,” they repeat — a theme echoed throughout the episode.In two preliminary reports, Max walks through additional lessons for pilots. A Sport Cruiser, N336SC, in Maine experienced an apparent engine failure, with witnesses reporting a loud pop before seeing the aircraft descending with its parachute only partially deployed. The host notes that parachute systems like CAPS are highly effective when deployed early, but once below 1,000 feet, the odds of survival drop sharply. Another case involved a Cessna 340, N269WT, departing Houston’s David Wayne Hooks Airport. After takeoff, the pilot requested to return but stalled and crashed on final approach with the gear down and flaps retracted. The NTSB found no mechanical issues. Both hosts speculate that an unnecessary return — possibly for a door warning or minor issue — can turn deadly if pilots lose focus on maintaining airspeed.The most widely discussed final report revisited the Lake Placid crash that killed AOPA Air Safety Institute’s Richard McSpadden and former NFL player Russ Francis. The Cardinal RG suffered a partial power loss after takeoff and attempted a turn back to the runway, but stalled and crashed. The NTSB cited loss of control and improper weight and balance planning. The case reignited the ongoing debate about the so-called “impossible turn.” Max and Rob strongly caution pilots never to attempt a 180-degree turn back to the airport after engine failure unless altitude, training, and aircraft performance clearly allow it. They note that even AOPA’s follow-up video subtly softened its earlier message, changing “turning back is a viable option” to “may be a viable option.”Later in the show, the hosts analyze an NTSB report from San Diego where a Citation 560XL, N564HV, nearly landed atop a Southwest 737 after distracted controllers forgot the landing clearance. Only the airport’s ASDE-X ground radar system — which alerted both tower and crew — prevented a catastrophe. Max points out that fewer than 75 airports in the U.S. currently have ASDE-X, though the FAA is now deploying ASDE-X Lite, a more affordable ADS-B–based version that will bring runway-incursion protection to smaller airports.The final case involves a Cessna P210, N210JT, that broke up in flight after the pilot flew directly into a severe thunderstorm while descending toward Thomaston, Georgia. Despite having onboard radar and a lightning detector, the pilot never requested or received a weather briefing. The NTSB concluded that the pilot’s failure to avoid convective weather was the primary cause. Max compares it to the 2006 Scott Crossfield accident, another 210 that entered a thunderstorm with fatal results. Both hosts urge pilots to remember that NEXRAD radar is delayed by up to 10 minutes and that even a brief lapse in judgment near convective activity can be catastrophic.Throughout Episode 14, the recurring themes are unmistakable: weather awareness, disciplined airspeed control, fatigue management, and pre-planning. Whether it’s a cargo 777 taxiing into harm’s way at LAX or a single-engine pilot attempting a low-altitude turnback, most of these tragedies share a common trait — they were preventable. As Max concludes, “Airspeed is life." And so is thinking ahead.