S1 Ep141: Meet the congressman trying to ban AI from Medicare, with Rep. Greg Landsman of Ohio

S1 Ep141: Meet the congressman trying to ban AI from Medicare, with Rep. Greg Landsman of Ohio

From Off the Chart: A Business of Medicine Podcast by Medical Economics

April 13, 2026 · 16 min · Season 1 · Episode 141

About this episode

Rep. Greg Landsman discusses the implications of the WISeR model and the Ban AI Denials in Medicare Act.

Medicare's Wasteful and Inappropriate Service Reduction (WISeR) Model launched January 1, 2026, in six states, immediately drawing fire from physicians, patient advocates and members of Congress. In this episode, Rep. Greg Landsman (D-Ohio), a co-sponsor of the Ban AI Denials in Medicare Act , explains why he believes the pilot needs to be stopped. He argues the model is less about reducing waste and more about using artificial intelligence (AI) to deny claims faster, at the expense of seniors — he points out that the entire program operates as a black box, with no transparency about how it works, why the six states were selected or how the financial incentives are structured. Music Credits: Rooftops by Buurd - stock.adobe.com A Textbook Example by Skip Peck - stock.adobe.com Editor's note: Episode timestamps and transcript produced using AI tools. 0:00 – 0:28 | Sponsor message Copic medical liability insurance . 0:28 – 1:02 | Cold open Landsman previews the episode's central argument: human beings denying claims is already a problem — handing that job to a computer system that isn't learning, just denying faster, makes it worse. 1:02 – 1:59 | Introduction Austin Littrell…

People in this episode

Host: Austin Littrell

Guest: Rep. Greg Landsman

Topics covered

  • Medicare
  • artificial intelligence
  • healthcare policy
  • claims denial
  • legislation
  • patient advocacy

Keywords

  • WISeR model
  • Medicare
  • AI claims denial
  • healthcare transparency
  • seniors
  • legislation
  • patient advocates

Sponsors

Copic medical liability insurance

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Medicare, Ban AI Denials in Medicare Act

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