Off The Looking Glass
by Kate Fagan & Jessica Smetana
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Grand Finale
Aug 23, 2023
37m 51s
Dreams
Aug 16, 2023
33m 07s
The Fan
Aug 9, 2023
40m 41s
Flat White
Aug 2, 2023
31m 17s
Worldwide
Jul 26, 2023
37m 01s
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| Date | Episode | Description | Length | ||||||
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| 8/23/23 | Grand Finale | In this, the last-ever episode of OTLG, Kate & Jess take you on a journey through some of their favorite moments: from their interview with silver screen icon Geena Davis to legend Dawn Staley talking about who she’d give a signature shoe to that one time they interviewed Megan Rapinoe, Sue Bird, Ashlyn Harris and Ali Krieger ALL AT THE SAME TIME. Plus, one last time … don’t skip the ads! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 37m 51s | ||||||
| 8/16/23 | Dreams | Kate & Jess go back to their roots — basketball. WNBA star Angel McCoughtry joins the show to talk about how women’s hoops has changed in the last decade, then boxing legend Jackie Kellen shares stories from her life along the ropes. Oh, and, don’t skip the ads! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 33m 07s | ||||||
| 8/9/23 | The Fan | Kate & Jess are very, very sad about the USWNT loss but so, so happy that the rest of the world is happy! And as a soothing balm for all hurting fans out there, OTLG has an episode chock full of goodness: Olympic gold medalist and data guru Angela Ruggiero joins to share what she’s learned about selling women’s sports, and Olympic marathon Kara Goucher shares a fascinating story from her first-ever Boston Marathon. Ole! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 40m 41s | ||||||
| 8/2/23 | Flat White | From halfway around the world, all the way from Wellington, New Zealand, The Athletic’s Meg Linehan joins Kate & Jess and breaks down everything World Cup — from the perfect flat whites to the USWNT’s slow start. Ole! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 31m 17s | ||||||
| 7/26/23 | Worldwide | Kate & Jess go around the globe for this episode of OTLG, touching on the ongoing World Cup — show alum Sophia Smith with two goals! — then bringing you the story of the Soccer Grannies from South Africa, and finally finishing in France (say it with us: cwwwwuissant ) with a Campfire told by the winner of the first-ever Tour de France for women, Marianne Martin. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 37m 01s | ||||||
| 7/19/23 | The Main Event | It’s World Cup time baby, and OTLG is here with one of the stars of the USWNT, Sophia Smith, who takes us back to her high school years when she was the star of her … basketball team! (And, also, Kate’s crushed to hear that she’s never even HEARD of the movie Notting Hill.)All kinds of surprises await — psst, don’t skip the ads — in this WWC kick-off episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 36m 40s | ||||||
| 7/12/23 | Big UCONN | Off The Looking Glass comes full circle with an extra special data-driven episode where Jess & Kate aim to quantify their UCONN bias theory from Season 1. Featuring famed datahead Tom Haberstroh and two college hoppers (and budding data scientists) who build algorithms and scrape the data — how many times can we say that word? — in an attempt to prove whether the media’s UCONN bias is a real thing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 34m 39s | ||||||
| 7/5/23 | Open | Jess and Kate dive head first into all things golf, first bringing on LPGA tour member Ryan O’Toole who offers a peek behind the curtain about what it’s like as a professional golfer (she’s like a part-time travel agent!), then a brand-new Campfire — this one brought by Anya Alvarez — about the backstory of one very famous 16th hole, the woman who helped design it, and what it’s like to play it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 36m 53s | ||||||
| 6/28/23 | Tidal Wave | Kate & Jess embark on an episode with a unifying theme: Things They Are Scared Of. First up is the ocean, and waves (big and small), which they discuss with World Surf League chief of sport, Jessi Miley-Dyer, who deftly handles — no surprise! — the hosts 101 questions. Theeeeeen, Jess & Kate dissect the new Max documentary, Bama Rush, a film that *tries* to take viewers inside the mysterious and competitive world of … sorority rushing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 42m 36s | ||||||
| 6/21/23 | Snacks | AN EPIC CROSSOVER EXPERIENCE: OTLG x Snacks! Kate & Jess are joined by U.S. soccer stars Sam Mewis and Lynn Williams, who answer key questions such as “How does the World Cup roster get released?” and “Would you rather interview or be interviewed?” Plus, after years of Kate expressing the importance of The Sandlot to Jess, the show welcomes actor Patrick Renna for a nice chat, which forces the hosts down a combo rabbit hole/Does It Hold Up? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 44m 31s | ||||||
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| 6/14/23 | Fore! | In this grab bag episode, Jess & Kate welcome the two golfers — Maycee Kay Aycock and Sarah Marshall — whose combined score of 434 helped save not only their college’s team, but also an entire conference. Plus, an ad for a podcast that finally addresses an important topic : conspiracy theories in women’s sports. (Why DID Brandi Chastain rip off her jersey at the Rose Bowl in ‘99?!) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 27m 57s | ||||||
| 6/7/23 | Diamonds | In honor of the Women’s College World Series (and its bonkers ratings), Kate & Jess present an all-softball episode ft. TWO former NCAA champs: Lauren Chamberlain (Oklahoma) and Natasha Watley (UCLA), as well as TWO rabbit holes that dig deep into the future of professional women’s softball. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 40m 55s | ||||||
| 5/31/23 | Ante Up | A jam-packed episode featuring poker champ Annie Duke, who chats with Jess & Kate about the power of quitting, then the show takes a much-needed trip to the multiverse for an episode of the Jess & Kate Show, where the hosts discuss the ridiculous jockstrapGATE that took over golf, and also a very special Campfire about how the runners of San Francisco are attempting a Guinness world record. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 46m 40s | ||||||
| 5/24/23 | Say Cheese | Olympic gold medalist and WNBA champ Jewell Loyd is back for Part II of her interview, where she takes us inside that devastating Seattle Storm loss to the Aces during last season’s playoffs, theeeeeeen, a very special (and very stinky) Campfire segment featuring the winner of a sport you probably have never heard of, but will certainly never forget. What would YOU do for a wheel of cheese? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 29m 33s | ||||||
| 5/17/23 | Game Time | The show dips back into the basketball waters — hello, WNBA season! — with WNBA champ, and Seattle Storm cornerstone, Jewell Loyd, who reveals that she and her brother drew up a 5- and 10-year plan for her career BACK IN HIGH SCHOOL. Plus, Jess and Kate take numerous segues (Scattergories, anyone?) as they attempt to tackle the question: Are super teams good for the WNBA? Annnnnnnd, the final pre-qualifier update from Anya! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 37m 48s | ||||||
| 5/10/23 | Support System | OTLG hits all the notes in this episode, from an opening voicemail from Kate’s mom (Happy Mothers Day, y’all!) to a deep discussion about the objectification of female athletes with national champion runner, and New York Times bestselling author (GOOD FOR A GIRL), Lauren Fleshman. Plus, a final update from Anya before next week’s U.S. Open qualifier and, of course … don’t skip the ads! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 40m 32s | ||||||
| 5/3/23 | Stakes | Giddy-up! OTLG goes full Kentucky Derby: Jess and Kate welcome the legend — and winner of a Triple Crown race! — Julie Krone, who gives us the inside scoop on life as a jockey and what kind of hype music she listened to before a big race (hint: SHOWTUNES), then Anya brings us an Extra, Extra! featuring Diana Krump, who was the first female rider in Kentucky Derby history. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 43m 32s | ||||||
| 4/26/23 | Capital T, Capital S | It’s baaaaaack — in honor of their superstar guest, Kate & Jess deliver the first “Does it Hold Up?” of the new era, going all the way back to 1992 to reassess the family-friendly (or maybe not?) comedy, The Mighty Ducks. The movie was, of course, a favorite of Olympic gold medalist and hockey pioneer Hilary Knight, who joins the show to discuss important things like the future of women’s pro hockey and where she keeps her silver medals. Plus — producer Anya Alvarez has another update in her quest to qualify for the U.S. Open. quack … Quack … QUACK! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 43m 45s | ||||||
| 4/19/23 | Future | Jess & Kate share their visions for the future of women’s sports (Mars, anyone?) after catching up with Anya Alvarez on her journey to the U.S. Open, then the pair are joined by basketball maven Ari Chambers, who takes us inside the busiest week in hoops and leads the hosts down a little Paige Beuckers detour. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 40m 29s | ||||||
| 4/12/23 | Tuxedos | Join Kate and Jess as they discover an almost-never-seen sports flick starring Pistol Pete and their guest, “Machine Gun” Molly Kazmer (nee Bolin), who tells another round of stories from the WBL heyday, including a Hollywood/Des Moines movie premiere, and the Great Tuxedo Rebellion. Pluuuuus, producer Anya Alvarez offers the first of her dispatches on her road to Pebble Beach glory, and don’t skip the ads! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 32m 24s | ||||||
| 4/5/23 | Heartland | Jess & Kate take a journey back in time with a legend, “Machine Gun Molly” Kazmer (née Bolin), who grew up playing 6-on-6 in basketball-mad Iowa before starring in the WBL. But first, the pair weighs in — twice, in fact! — on the Angel Reese vs. Caitlin Clark craziness. Oh, oh, AND … that new voice you hear is the first “Extra, Extra!” from producer Anya Alvarez, who tells us the story of a women’s basketball team from depression-era Oklahoma. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 45m 11s | ||||||
| 3/29/23 | The Pill? | A first of its kind for OTLG: Kate and Jess hold down an episode all on their own! The pair take you back to the pod’s drawing-board days, answering questions such as, “What were some abandoned titles for the show?” and “What is your favorite fake ad?” Plus, they tackle important questions from listeners, including, “Is the show jinxing people” and, paramount, “Which college coach would you give truth serum to?” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 31m 59s | ||||||
| 3/24/23 | Where the Buffalo Roam | EMERGENCY POD ALERT Come jump on the Colorado Buffaloes’ bandwagon alongside Kate — and maybe, Kate hopes, Jess? — as CU head coach JR Payne joins the pod ahead of her team’s Sweet Sixteen showdown with Caitlin Clark and Iowa. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 18m 36s | ||||||
| 3/22/23 | Cardinal Rule | OTLG goes to the West Coast for a pre-NCAA tournament interview (sorry for your loss, Stanford faithful) with the stoic legend, Tara VanDerveer, who reveals the moment she first heard about Netflix. Plus, an Extra, Extra hot off the presses! We go way back … to the first-ever women’s college game played at the San Francisco Armory … Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 41m 27s | ||||||
| 3/15/23 | Mac | Kate and Jess are joined by Stanford basketball star Cameron Brink (who loves Barbie and has never seen Sandlot!), and then they debut a brand new segment called “The OpEd” to discuss a story that piqued their interest — a New York Times article about NIL and the marketing of female athletes — which also connects with Brink. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 37m 01s | ||||||
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