What If You're The Only One Trying To Save The Relationship? (Interview with Dr. Lee Baucom)

About this episode

The episode discusses what to do when one partner is trying to save a relationship while the other is not interested, featuring insights from marriage expert Dr. Lee Baucom.

Have you ever felt like you're the only one worried about your relationship? Maybe you've suggested counseling, asked for deeper conversations, or tried to reconnect—but your partner doesn't seem interested. It can feel lonely, frustrating, and even hopeless. In this episode, we're joined by marriage expert Dr. Lee Baucom, creator of the Save the Marriage System, to discuss one of the most common questions couples face: What do you do when you want to save the relationship, but your partner doesn't? Dr. Baucom shares why many couples unintentionally "hit pause" on their relationship while focusing on careers, parenting, finances, and life's endless responsibilities—and why that pause can slowly create distance and disconnection over time. Together, we explore: Why relationships don't stay still—they either grow or drift apart The hidden dangers of the "pause button marriage" The difference between fault and responsibility Why one partner often recognizes relationship problems before the other The "Chaser, Spacer, and Pacer" dynamic and how it impacts connection Why forcing connection often pushes a partner further away How to become more invitational instead of reactive The role…

People in this episode

Hosts: EJ Kerwin, Tarah Kerwin

Guest: Dr. Lee Baucom

Topics covered

• relationship challenges
• couples communication
• marriage advice
• emotional distance
• self-management

Keywords

• relationship
• counseling
• communication
• emotional distance
• marriage advice
• self-management
• couples therapy

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Save the Marriage System

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