
The wrong way to bring AI into your company | Leo Goldfarb @ Albato
From saas.unbound by Anna Nadeina
April 20, 2026 · 59 min · Season 6 · Episode 16
About this episode
Anna Nadeina interviews Leo Goldfarb about the challenges and strategies of integrating AI into products in a competitive landscape.
saas.unbound is a podcast for and about founders who are working on scaling inspiring products that people love, brought to you by https://saas.group/ , a serial acquirer of B2B SaaS companies. In episode #16 of season 6, Anna Nadeina talks with Leo Goldfarb, co-founder of Albato — a 100% bootstrapped automation and integration platform with 200,000 users and 80 people — after years at Microsoft, IBM, HP, and Booking.com . This episode gets into what it actually takes to build an AI-first product when you're competing with Zapier and nobody on your team has formal AI experience. In this episode: → Why Albato deliberately pivoted away from competing with Zapier head-on — and what they built instead → The AI copilot that kept crashing, and the API redesign they had to do before it could work → How to spot an AI skeptic on your team before they slow everything down → Why 95% of enterprise AI investments fail — and the metric mistake behind it → The case for decentralizing AI across every team, not siloing it in an innovation lab → What "pump your tires before tuning your car" means for founders bringing AI into legacy products This one's for founders and operators navigating the gap…
People in this episode
Host: Anna Nadeina
Guest: Leo Goldfarb
Topics covered
- AI integration
- B2B SaaS
- startup challenges
- enterprise AI
- product development
- automation
Keywords
- AI-first product
- bootstrapped startup
- enterprise AI investments
- AI skepticism
- product pivot
- automation platform
Sponsors
saas.group
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Albato, Microsoft, IBM, HP, Booking.com, Zapier
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